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Short list of candidates when brownell Fired!
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Feb 19, 2023, 12:28 AM
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For those saying we can’t get anyone better than brownell. I have came up with a shortlist that would be a significant improvement and I believe anyone on this list would come coach at Clemson if offered alright here is my shortlist.
Richie Riley
Rob senderoff
Baker Dunleavy
Chris collins
Fran Campbell
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It would be hard not to find somebody better than Brownell
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Feb 19, 2023, 12:33 AM
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But the school isn’t going to fire him, because they don’t give a crap about basketball.
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Re: It would be hard not to find somebody better than Brownell
Feb 20, 2023, 10:04 AM
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Charles Barkley might want to get into coaching and we have a great golf course.
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You're right, it's really easy to have 400 career wins
Feb 20, 2023, 1:09 PM
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and have the most wins in Clemson basketball history, as well as setting the Clemson record for best start in ACC play. Super easy! No big deal.
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Re: You're right, it's really easy to have 400 career wins
Feb 20, 2023, 1:31 PM
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He will be let go
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Again, Ms Keller, our average ranking over 12 years is 76th.
Feb 20, 2023, 7:03 PM
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And that average may drop of we lose a couple more games.
Brad hasn't done jack squat. You're delusional.
Good luck at the next mid major.
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You forgot to mention the most losses.
Feb 20, 2023, 7:17 PM
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Now THAT'S an accomplishment.
Good luck at the next gig, Mrs. B. Seriously. You're not the coolest lady around, but your husband is a good guy, so I wish you guys much success at the mid-major level.
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Re: You're right, it's really easy to have 400 career wins
Feb 20, 2023, 7:25 PM
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In a P5 "Has Been Basketball Conference" that will be lucky to get 3 teams in the tournament. A conference that used to get 8-10 teams in the tournament. While I'm glad the team hit some new confidence territory, this isn't the year to brag about it. Just lost to a KenPom 275th ranked team. Anyone defending that coaching job is delusional.
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Re: You're right, it's really easy to have 400 career wins
Feb 20, 2023, 8:27 PM
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You prey on people’s ignorance about college basketball. The 400 wins might be a meaningful personal milestone. But it is not significant with the college basketball coaching fraternity. More than 125 coaches have 500 or more. There are coaches on that list who coached just as many seasons as Brownell. John Kresse got to 560 in 2 more seasons than Brownell has coached. His ACC accomplishments can’t be compared to previous coaches due to conference expansion, more conference games, and a rotational schedule. There is nothing special about him. Adjusted for SOS the only coach worse since Tates Locke is Larry Shyatt. But please, spin us some more yarns.
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Re: Short list of candidates when brownell Fired!
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Feb 19, 2023, 6:24 AM
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Thoughts on Greg Buckner?
I googled NBA ASST coach pay and found that the average salary is $300,000. Only 7 make more than a million, with Jason Kidd leading everyone at 1.6 million.
Brownell is set to earn 3 million next season, so that provides an idea of what we can do
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He wants the job
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Feb 19, 2023, 10:56 AM
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He has experience, he has NBA connections, and he's the toughest sob to ever play for Clemson. No one wants to win more the Buck.
He should be at the top of the list.
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Don't you think hiring a coach with zero experience
Feb 20, 2023, 1:13 PM
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coaching on the college level is a huge risk?
He has never run a program. He has never recruited.
On the flip side, his NBA experience is a definite plus, as a coach and a player. I think that would resonate with recruits. I also think his love for Clemson matters a lot.
An example of a college head coach who was a former NBA player and NBA assistant before taking a college head coaching job is Jerry Stackhouse. He is well below .500 in his several years at Vandy. Ugh.
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Can't be worse than two top-40 finishes in 13 years.
Feb 20, 2023, 7:04 PM
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I could do that.
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Buck has been coaching in the G league, development league,
Feb 20, 2023, 7:41 PM
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summer leagues, and the pros. He has all the coaching experience and knowledge he needs. As for recruiting, that's the unknown variable. I think his NBA connection will help immensely and while he isn't a household name, once he gets in a house and shares his story, he'll win over a lot of recruits and a lot of parents.
Most importantly, he will bring that same will to win that he had when he played at Clemson. He's all business on the court and you'll see a team play as hard on defense as any team in the country.
I think Buck is a no-brainer hire. There's risk, but no more than with any other candidate.
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Re: Don't you think hiring a coach with zero experience
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Feb 20, 2023, 8:18 PM
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We’ve spent 13 years hoping a bad coach would suddenly become a good one. Would this really be a much worse plan?
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I mentioned Buck a few years ago
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Feb 19, 2023, 6:08 PM
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if we do make a move, he should certainly be interviewed. If we're ever going to move up in the ACC pecking order, now is the time. Duke and NC are breaking in new coaches and the feel of the old dynasties is not near as strong. FSU and Miami will soon be hiring new coaches, as will GT. Syracuse isn't far away either. Bennett will be the only real established coach before long.
It is taking a chance to hire a guy with no head coaching, or college experience. If he's brought on, it would be about his character and potential. He'd need a guy with head coaching experience on the bench with him. I could see Boogie officially on the staff with him as well, and he'd need a top notch recruiter. Would take money committed to pay for that type staff.
Another option to me is an experienced guy who may or may not be coaching at the "power 5" level right now. A big splash hire. Regardless, unless we went our normal mid-low major route, and that is the route we've taken for 50 years apart from Barnes, it's going to take a big monetary investment.
Still not convinced we see a move apart from an epoch collapse here down the stretch even if we do miss the dance.
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It would be great for us to try a route like that.
Feb 19, 2023, 7:07 PM
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I am of the firm belief that Neff has been expanding his outreach in the field though since last season and has candidates in mind and interested should things not pan out as were anticipated this far into the mix. It could be that Buck is one of those. I like the idea of someone with clear cut pro coaching chops and All In on Clemson and what it's capable of in basketball taking charge.
As a poster OP'd earlier, Clemson is light years ahead of where we were in the national spotlight during our last basketball hire campaign. The joy of Clemson has been on full display in prime time, and more folks than ever get it. Our current coach is in no way underpaid for the industry, and we obviously show a long leash, and all the opportunity one could ask for from a brand, stature, location, and wide open slate on the success side of the ledger. The ACC is also in flux, yet the funding and infrastructure is there throughout to keep it among the most competitive in years to come.
We're a great basketball gig in the grand scheme of things.
Go Tigers!
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Re: Short list of candidates when brownell Fired!
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Feb 19, 2023, 8:15 AM
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It almost does not matter who is on the list. Has been past time for a change. Sure, we could take a step backwards - but hope would be back in the building - and I can live with that.
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Here's another short list of candidates who could do a better job
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Feb 19, 2023, 8:50 AM
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than Brad:
1) Johnny Weir
2) Ron Jeremy
3) Tonya Harding
4) Abe Vigoda
5) Sharon Osbourne
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You forgot Gary Busey. LOL***
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Feb 19, 2023, 10:12 AM
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Re: You forgot Gary Busey. LOL***
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Feb 19, 2023, 3:56 PM
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That’s funny.
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Re: Short list of candidates when brownell Fired!
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Feb 19, 2023, 10:39 AM
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Never heard of any of them. Probably because I don't watch basketball. However none of them could possibly be worse.
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He’s not going anywhere…
Feb 19, 2023, 4:03 PM
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…relax and enjoy some baseball.
This IS Clemson basketball.
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I Hear Judge is Lobbying for The Job***
Feb 19, 2023, 5:48 PM
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Re: I Hear Judge is Lobbying for The Job***
Feb 19, 2023, 6:13 PM
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Would he betray Brad like that?
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Re: I Hear Judge is Lobbying for The Job***
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Feb 20, 2023, 8:54 AM
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Are y’all saying JK is really Dickk Bender ??
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I'm gonna become a gamecock fan if that lady has
Feb 20, 2023, 7:08 PM
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any access whatsoever to our program after her husband is let go. She's a poison.
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I don't know that much about college basketball, but
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Feb 19, 2023, 7:11 PM
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I'd be in favor of giving Greg Buckner a shot if he wants the job. He seems to be doing a good job in the NBA.
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He wants it.
Feb 20, 2023, 7:35 PM
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He is exactly what the program needs.
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The job is not open
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Feb 20, 2023, 9:16 AM
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You need to add one candidate to your bogus list. Dawn Staley.
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Re: The job is not open
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Feb 20, 2023, 9:48 AM
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It's not but it needs to be.
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Hey look it's Cobb, the Mensa member.***
Feb 20, 2023, 7:10 PM
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Re: Short list of candidates when brownell Fired!
Feb 20, 2023, 11:12 AM
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Re: Short list of candidates when brownell Fired!
Feb 20, 2023, 1:40 PM
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Gregg Marshall on 3 Year Contract with Buck as Asst HC
Feb 20, 2023, 6:59 PM
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Then if Marshall opens up a can of whoop a$$ on the players then Buckner can save them as he fine tunes his college coaching chops. Buck takes over in Year 4.
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