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Ultimate Clemson Legend [108102]
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She should literally teach a course on gaslighting. Her skills are off the
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charts. She is massively insecure, and wears it on her sleeve. It's odd, many people when gaslit, will change their opinion and believe the gaslighter. I have the opposite reaction. I just see massive insecurity and intimidation
https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1899525520779587957
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Way in over her head, not only the insecurities but you can tell she doesnt
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Mar 12, 2025, 8:37 AM
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remotely believe what she is saying. Fear comes through in how she lashes out. That’s some real fight or flight.
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Re: She should literally teach a course on gaslighting. Her skills are off the
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Mar 12, 2025, 8:40 AM
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She may have fumbled that one but she's definitely not in over her head the other 99% of the time. How many threads did you start lamenting the complete idiocy of her predecessor? If the answers zero then we all now know who is trying to do the gaslighting around here.
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Ultimate Tiger [37733]
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Ooooooo! Lemme guess***
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they ignored pierre's daily lies
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Mar 12, 2025, 9:07 AM
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for years.
this thread is funny
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Ultimate Tiger [34892]
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So this lie is ok because someone on here didn't comment on all of the...
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Mar 12, 2025, 9:11 AM
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Biden lies?
Is that really what you're saying?
If so, that's pretty silly and pretty sorry. That is 3rd grade school girl gossip logic.
I remember calling out Biden's press sec a few times...so does that mean it's ok for me to call out Trump's press sec too and that you'll value the criticism as a result?
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Ultimate Tiger [38875]
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Re: So this lie is ok because someone on here didn't comment on all of the...
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Mar 12, 2025, 10:54 AM
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The perceived hypocrisy in others excuses their own, this is a plague on both sides and it’s a self-perpetuating auger into the ground
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Re: they ignored pierre's daily lies
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Mar 12, 2025, 9:15 AM
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It is funny to listen to all the supposedly rational posters on here totally ignore years of incoherent drivel from one press secretary and then smugly play gotcha when our current press secretary messes up a response. These same people couldn't do her job for a single day but oh boy are they some world class message board posters. Tells you all you need to know about just how reasonable they actually are.
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Re: they ignored pierre's daily lies
Mar 12, 2025, 10:51 AM
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How did she “mess up” ? She just lied and continues to lie on the subject?
Or has she come out and admitted that tariffs are paid by importers?
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Ultimate Tiger [34892]
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She "fumbled" it? She didn't mis-speak or use confusing words...
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Mar 12, 2025, 8:58 AM
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She didn't say something that came out wrong that she regrets. She lied and she's repeating the lies of her boss. And then she runs MAGA play #7 and goes after the reporter for asking a legitimate and straightforward question.
And yes, the previous press secretary and admin was horrible. BUT THAT'S NOT THE EFF'ING POINT!!! We're talking about the CURRENT press sec and the CURRENT POTUS.
To he1I with the last admin...we all agree. But nothing Biden did excuses any of the BS President Trump is doing now. Nothing.
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NCTIgerFan23 - nothing?***
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Mar 12, 2025, 10:30 AM
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [108102]
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VERY IMPORTANT that the body of water be called the Gulf of America.
Mar 12, 2025, 10:57 AM
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Where am I?
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Ultimate Tiger [34892]
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oddly, she mentions the rest of the world at the end of that...
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Mar 12, 2025, 11:00 AM
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and the US doesn't control what other countries call things. This is one of the justifications of the AP not changing the name because they are international in their reach.
Shear idiocy.
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Re: This is another one of my favorites.
Mar 12, 2025, 7:50 PM
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How does she even say that with a straight face?? It is NOT a fact. It’s dumb as fuq.
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Paw Master [16175]
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Re: She should literally teach a course on gaslighting. Her skills are off the
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Mar 12, 2025, 8:53 AM
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Not my take at all. I think she’s a true believer and pretty well spoken.
All Press Secretaries sling loads of ########, some better than others.
KJP fed us all the utter BS that Joe was just a marvel of physical and mental capacity and that Biden had done more to secure the border than any President.
I wouldn’t bother listening to much from any press secretary. It’s their job to spin.
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Re: She should literally teach a course on gaslighting. Her skills are off the
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Mar 12, 2025, 9:19 AM
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Being a BS artist is a job requirement for that role. These press conferences are purely infotainment. Mostly a group of reporters that are trying to create a sound bite and a Press Secretary spinning
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Ultimate Tiger [34892]
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Saw that in real-time and it was tough to watch...she was asked a very...
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Mar 12, 2025, 8:54 AM
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straight forward question and her answer was total BS. When she was pressed on it, she took it personally and then went after the reporter/AP.
This is such a clear example of what we're up against now and what passes (at least to some) as acceptable behavior from a press secretary. And the reporter is 100% correct. She needs to have her economic understanding challenged!
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"What we're up against now"... PERFECT EXAMPLE of PSEUDO-CONSERVATIVE.***
Mar 12, 2025, 12:26 PM
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Ultimate Tiger [34892]
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How is expecting a press sec not to lie and not to react personally...
Mar 12, 2025, 12:38 PM
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pseudo-conservative?
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Where were you the last four years when we had the dingbat...?***
Mar 12, 2025, 1:52 PM
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Ultimate Tiger [34892]
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Criticizing him, but again for the hard of hearing...what does any of that...
Mar 12, 2025, 3:05 PM
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have to do with being conservative or not?
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Clemson Icon [27793]
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Where were you when the AP was caught spreading their BS...? No, you like to
Mar 13, 2025, 10:18 AM
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claim you're conservative but your historical choice of stands, at least on TNet, often show otherwise.
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Paw Master [17122]
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Why do other countries punish their citizens so much with tariffs on our goods?***
Mar 12, 2025, 9:14 AM
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She failed the test***
Mar 12, 2025, 9:19 AM
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I love how Dems...
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Mar 12, 2025, 9:39 AM
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are so worried about tariff costs getting passed on to the consumer, but argue the exact opposite when you increase taxes on corporations.
Tariff = Higher good cost ultimately paid for by the consumer.
Taxes = Higher good cost ultimately paid for by the consumer.
They are the same end result applied in different ways.
Trump tariff's certain countries and goods and Dems lose their ####.
Biden wants to raise increase corporate taxes on EVERY corporation from 21% to 28% and they cheer.
They do the same thing. They both #### consumers.
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Game Changer [1905]
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Yep, same can be said for Republicans too.
Mar 12, 2025, 11:06 AM
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Hate raising corporate taxes but love tariffs.
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Finally a decent Republican response
Mar 12, 2025, 11:10 AM
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So now that we agree that it’s acceptable to pass tax once increases the discussion should focus on which method is more effective, right?
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Valley Legend [12667]
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I'm more Libertarian than anything.
Mar 12, 2025, 11:23 AM
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Fiscally Conservative.
Socially Liberal.
Not registered with any party.
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Valley Legend [12667]
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Neither, as a blanket statement, is acceptable...
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The amount of taxes we pay is staggering. Adding in higher corporate taxes is just another layer of taking the money from citizens.
Tariffs can be effective, but not how Trump is doing it unless this is just a short term threat to get what he wants.
Tariffs on China should be in place. We buy their ###### goods because they are cheap. We don't need them. If they are going to subsidize real goods (cars, appliance, etc.) with .Gov money and then dump them against domestic products, they will win. Tariff that to put them on a level playing field.
Hell, a t-net poaster bragged about getting their Polestar EV. Polestar is owned by Geely which is subsidized by the Chinese government.
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The amount of taxes we pay while still not getting the benefits other countries
Mar 12, 2025, 3:52 PM
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provide their populace.
FTFY
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Because we spend a lot protecting those countries.
Mar 12, 2025, 6:26 PM
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They have the freedom to support all of those social programs because they don't have to be the world's police. Trump tells them to step up or pay for their protection and libs lose their fkn minds.
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I don't think they're exactly the same in terms of impact on a company...
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of course, that varies with the type of company.
Taxes are levied based on profits. They don't impact EBITDA, but do impact after-tax profits (clearly).
Tariffs impact a company's cost inputs. If it's a tariff on incoming imported material, then it impacts cost of goods sold. If it's a tariff put on by the customer's country, then it impacts the effective price of the goods being sold or hits the customer's cost of importing, depending on which party is responsible for customs clearance.
So an increase in cost eats into the company's operating margin...how much depends on how much the company can pass along to the customer, which is not a given, depending on the competitive layout of the market.
Most ultimate investment decisions, pricing decisions, etc...are based on operating margin and not after-tax profit margin. Not saying it's not considered, but it's not normally the controlling factor, especially in larger companies where the operating unit may not even know the taxable position of the total company (credits, loss carry forwards, incentives, and and and). Heck, even in my company where we have perfect visibility of tax liability in the US...we still mainly focus on EBITDA.
In my thinking, taxes have a bigger impact on longer-term strategy and ultimate cash-flow.
That was a bit long winded...and yes, ultimately the customer "could" see the impact in pricing for either a tax of a tariff, but I would make the case that a tariff has a much more immediate potential impact on pricing.
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She gives bimbos a bad name.***
Mar 12, 2025, 10:58 AM
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And you... DAxxes a a true name.***
Mar 13, 2025, 6:02 PM
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Re: She should literally teach a course on gaslighting. Her skills are off the
Mar 12, 2025, 11:13 AM
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Yeah that is nuts. I am glad she says it though, because very few people believe that is factual. Maybe NJDEV or Tom types, but no normal person.
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democrats are right on this issue
Mar 12, 2025, 11:31 AM
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It would be much better to raise corporate income tax than tax foreign produced products.
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Re: She should literally teach a course on gaslighting. Her skills are off the
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Maga owner of my company once told me he had his MBA from George Washington, tuned out to be a lie. a couple years later he told me he was both an architect and a civil engineer, it was a ego thing because I'm architect, and despite being the principle owner, was little more than my agent and accountant. But yeah, he is also an architect and civil engineer, told me this with a straight face. I worry how much the big lie has permeated our culture, I should just go ahead and tell people I am a rocket scientist.
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Re: She should literally teach a course on gaslighting. Her skills are off the
Mar 12, 2025, 9:52 PM
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Maybe he identified as an architect and an engineer?
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Dumb blonde. I can say that now, right?***
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [108102]
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I will fully admit, my biggest weakness is an insecure woman.
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It's an instant 2-3 points added on a 10-point scale. I can't explain it, but it is a thing. And the worst part is I'm fully aware that's 100% the WRONG type of woman to pursue.
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The cost is split between consumers and producers. Producers can't
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keep their prices the same once a tariff goes into effect, or they will simply get beat and may go under. So they lower prices. The end price to the consumer is still a little higher... until the producer opens up a factory in the US.
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