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Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 3:51 PM
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I come to this group from time to time and see how y'all interact with other users so I'm not exactly expecting some intelligent discourse...but I want your honest opinion on why you think the SEC would "roll out the red carpet" for Clemson. From my viewpoint, one of two things have already happened. Either the SEC who's been ahead of the game has already tried to roll the red carpet out and Clemsons leadership was too stubborn to see the writing on the wall months ago...or the SEC hasn't shown interest in Clemson. This is the part where I don't expect logical, non homered responses but...what does clemson bring to the SEC outside of football that the SEC wants? The SEC already has the best product in football and baseball so we're not dying to bring in another great football program. Y'all don't offer a big time basketball program or baseball one at that. Y'all don't offer a new tv market, a huge national fanbase and to be honest who knows what will happen to your football program now that your coordinators are gone and Dabo refuses to change with the times in terms of NIL and transfers. So what would be the draw to bring Clemson into the SEC......and what would be the draw for Clemson to even want to be in the SEC? As one of your users said best.....do y'all really want to play that schedule. Just look at your records against the SEC.
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Hey Dawg Breathe..
Jul 3, 2022, 3:58 PM
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most of those losses weren't in modern times and not under Dabo!
We'll be just fine.
44-16 vs best ever "to be 15 & 0" Alabama team.
Ha...thus the CLEMSON Tigers were 1st ever 15 & 0 college football team in modern history!!
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Re: Hey Dawg Breathe..
Jul 3, 2022, 3:59 PM
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And most of dabos wins against the SEC were against Carolina.....doesn't stop y'all from saying "we've owned the sec under Dabo".
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Go pull for your team (the one who beat us only 10-3)..
Jul 3, 2022, 4:03 PM
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with a sorry playing QB who finished out of the top 100.
Stiil, congrats for a needed Natty after 41 years while Tigers took 3 Natties.
And in 4 Natty games we were 2 of 3 vs big bad "carry the SEC water" Bama!
LOL
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Re: Go pull for your team (the one who beat us only 10-3)..
Jul 3, 2022, 4:10 PM
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It's funny you say they carry the water. The sec has had 4 different programs win an NC this decade. What other conference has had even 2 different teams win the NC this decade?
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Re: Go pull for your team (the one who beat us only 10-3)..
Jul 3, 2022, 4:21 PM
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Really??? The ACC has. SMH.
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Throwing you a bone, Barkley1209
Jul 3, 2022, 5:53 PM
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You mentioned that the SEC has eyes in this state via the UofSC. Correct. They are in the 75th ranked media market in the US--stuck in the middle of the state. Clemson is in the Greenville/Spartanburg/Asheville, NC/Anderson media market which is the 35th ranked media market in the US and reaches into both NC and SE Georgia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_television_stations_in_North_America_by_media_market
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Re: Go pull for your team (the one who beat us only 10-3)..
Jul 3, 2022, 4:23 PM
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FSU has fallen so far I've forgotten about them. Congrats though, they barely made the cut. I was wrong. That's still 2 teams compared to 4. If any team is carrying a conference it's Clemson carrying the ACC. Kudos to y'all.
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If you pay attention to Clemson fan culture,
Jul 3, 2022, 4:38 PM
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you’ll realize we don’t want congratulations for anything FSU or any other ACC school does.
Clemson is about Clemson, not conference pumping.
You will argue, and rightly so, that for this very reason Clemson stands outside looking in on a dangerous financial precipice, but that is Clemson’s burden to bear right now.
Conference pumping is quintessentially cootish.
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Re: If you pay attention to Clemson fan culture,
Jul 3, 2022, 4:59 PM
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There's a difference between pulling for a conference like Carolina does so they can brag knowing they couldn't do what the other conference teams have, and acknowledging you're in the best conference. I pulled for y'all against bama, I pulled for every team UT baseball played this year. I hate every team in my conference but I acknowledge collectively we have the best brand.....which turns into the best tv deals....which turns into giving Georgia more money to upgrade and be the best version of itself.
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What happens after you acknowledge the SEC is the best conference?
Jul 3, 2022, 5:55 PM
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I’ll answer the question - you play football. Clemson has generally done it better than UGA for a number of years now. Does that warrant acknowledgement as well?
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Re: Go pull for your team (the one who beat us only 10-3)..
Jul 3, 2022, 5:00 PM
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So you are saying Bama does not carry the water for that conference. LSU had all world talent one year and now Georgia had all world talent last year and won 1, and if Bama’s best player had not been on the sidelines not sure Ga. wins that game. Hell y’all were lucky to get past the most anemic offense we have had in years.
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In the relatively short playoff era the ACC has had two national championship programs
Jul 3, 2022, 5:47 PM
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Florida State and Clemson.
LSU got hot one year then fell off the table.
Alabama and Georgia are carrying the SEC.
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Re: Go pull for your team (the one who beat us only 10-3)..
Jul 4, 2022, 6:36 PM
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That’s the difference between you losers and CU….we claim Clemson and Clemson only…..up until last year…..dawgs along with every other loser in the sec were on Bama’s jock…..they are your daddy…..we took your daddy to school…..hey but….go dawgs?
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Dabo is
Jul 3, 2022, 4:18 PM
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2-0 vs A&M
1-0 vs UK
4-1 vs Auburn
2-2 vs Bama
1-1 vs LSU
1-2 vs UGA
8-5 vs UofSC
19-11 with mostly top SEC teams. Five of those losses were to the eventual National Champion.
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Re: Dabo is
Jul 3, 2022, 4:43 PM
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Please don’t confuse the ????’er with facts.
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And most or almost ALL of the loses were either IN
Jul 3, 2022, 4:19 PM
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The National Championship game or to the National Champion.we haven't built our record inder Dabo by beating up on Vandy,Kentucky,mizzou,Tennessee, Auburn,TAMu...although we have handled them as well.
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Exactly Spud! ??***
Jul 3, 2022, 5:03 PM
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your first national title in god knows when
Jul 3, 2022, 8:43 PM
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you struggled to beat what was considered an average clemson team compared to the past few years..pathetic
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Lol... She found a post date labeled "a decade ago" as Intel
Jul 3, 2022, 4:01 PM
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Who's got more nattys?
Get that UGAy shit outta here
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Re: Lol... She found a post date labeled "a decade ago" as Intel
Jul 3, 2022, 4:05 PM
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We have the same amount lol. Let's stop acting like Clemson is close to UGA
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Re: Lol... She found a post date labeled "a decade ago" as Intel
Jul 3, 2022, 4:19 PM
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Forgot about that huge 1942 dual. My how time flies. 80 years can really slip by
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Re: Lol... She found a post date labeled "a decade ago" as Intel
Jul 3, 2022, 4:39 PM
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I wasn't even aware that they were claiming the 1942 championship since Ohio State finished #1 in the final AP poll. Had to do some googling on that one.
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Re: Lol... She found a post date labeled "a decade ago" as Intel
Jul 3, 2022, 5:55 PM
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Same
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Don't bother feeding the stray troll dawgie***
Jul 3, 2022, 4:27 PM
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 4:00 PM
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There are 2 elite teams in the SEC and adding clemson would be a third lol. That’s what clemson has to offer. Maybe I’ll include a and m as an elite team If they can win the west.
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2 elite teams in SEC? ????***
Jul 3, 2022, 5:05 PM
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 4:01 PM
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If y'all could get the sec to boot Carolina to the acc and swap them with yall I'd be all for that. Doesn't make sense to have y'all both though outside of the rivalry.
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Y’all like the Coots b/c you can beat them… ??***
Jul 3, 2022, 5:06 PM
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Couple thought…not that I care if we join the SEC
Jul 3, 2022, 4:04 PM
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but historical records? Do you think Clemson is afraid to play Ole Miss? Miss St? Vandy? Kentucky? Tennessee?
Let me stop there. Are afraid of anyone in that league? Is there anyone in that league that has shown the consistent level of excellence that Clemson has, aside from Bama? Is there anyone in the League that has competed with Bama more impressively than Clemson? How many of those schools are out recruiting Clemson? No one with a Tiger Paw on is afraid of the SEC schedule.
https://youtu.be/B3lsJmwNO40
Second, stop talking about basketball and baseball. You sound ridiculous. No one added Texas and Oklahoma for basketball or baseball. No one is adding USC and UCLA because of basketball or baseball. No one cares.
Third, we shall see if we end up in one of these megaconferences but there comes a point where it’s no longer about individual tv markets and it’s all about overall brand. And our brand is fantastic. But…like I said…we shall see where this all lands.
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Agreed indeed! ??***
Jul 3, 2022, 5:07 PM
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 4:05 PM
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Clemson needs to do there due diligence but doesn’t need to beg. Why wouldn’t the SEC roll out the red carpet for Clemson. They’re head and shoulders ahead of at least 3/4 of the schools in the SEC when it comes to an institution as a whole. In football alone they’d bring more to the conference except for Bama and UGA and those two are ahead due to production (Bama) and larger fan base UGA. Clemson doesn’t need the SEC but the SEC could really use Clemson compared to schools still available to add.
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Correction Clemson is better than all but maybe 2 SEC teams***
Jul 3, 2022, 5:08 PM
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 5:43 PM
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In 2022 academic ranking of USA universities (https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities)Clemson occupies #75 place which is a decent, mid level position. Lower that most fellow ACC members and higher than most SEC schools (Uga is 48, UTexas is 38).
BUT when looked at in comparison to current BiG members that 75 is way,way low.
The new invitees of USC #25 and UCLA #20 show the importance the BiG university Presidents place on academic excellence.
History shows us an invite to Clemson would be a true outlier.
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I'm married to a Dawg so I'll throw you a bone ...
Jul 3, 2022, 4:07 PM
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Clemson would become a top 4 SEC school academically. The Clemson-UGA game rating of 8.9 million was the 2nd highest SEC regular season rating (4th overall) next to Bama-Auburn and larger than any of UGA's other games. Football wise and academically, Clemson brings additional pedigree to the SEC no matter how you wish to slice it.
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Re: I'm married to a Dawg so I'll throw you a bone ...
Jul 3, 2022, 4:13 PM
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These are the kinda replies I want. I'm all for the UGA/Clemson rivalry being renewed yearly. Love the game, love seeing the hate our fanbases have for each other. I always get a laugh reading posts about Georgia in here. That game would move the needle....but say 5 years down the road when the newness of Clemson in the SEC wore off. What games would move the needle outside of that one and Clemson/Carolina?
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Re: I'm married to a Dawg so I'll throw you a bone ...
Jul 3, 2022, 4:19 PM
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The recent Clemson/Alabama games have been some of the best games in the last 7-8 years. After the national championship in Tampa even Reese Davis said “forget the playoffs, let’s just have Clemson and Bama play every year.” So I would think Clemson/Bama moves the needle for most folks that are not dog homers.
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I'm married to a Dawg so I'll throw you a bone ... Take 2
Jul 3, 2022, 4:34 PM
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My take is Clemson-UGA history in modern era had nationwide interest with Herschel, Erk, Junkyard Dogs, great kickers, and great teams in the early 80's. We know Saban is in the sunset of his career at Bama - and between Bear, Stallings and Saban, Bama has not been much. Dabo and Kirby rivalry (and they are young) not to mention the mostly good-natured fan hate and top public school academia has the makings of a good backyard SEC rivalry with nationwide implications.
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 4:09 PM
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Footprint used to be the buzzword for a team's value to a conference. In today's world, it's brand recognition and power which Clemson has plenty of. The orange helmet with the tiger paw is recognized world wide.
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Yep. And a hard nosed, natty capable, Americas team too!***
Jul 3, 2022, 5:11 PM
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Because its an arms race now genius
Jul 3, 2022, 4:12 PM
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And whether you like it or not, Clemson is one of the elite programs of modern day/playoff era college football. And as mentioned in another thread in this post, Clemson is a better program than MOST of the SEC during that time.
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 4:12 PM
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Hey doggie dog. Jawjaw has a 16-10 record vs the SEC west. 8-2 vs Auburn since divisions so that's just an 8-8 record against the rest of the West. That means your success has been against a very bad SEC weak east division. So what does Clemson bring? We would be an instant top 3 team in the SEC with rabid fans and tv ratings jawjaw wished they had.
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 4:17 PM
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You talk about a bad SEC east while you play in the acc, a little ironic huh. Also, you know tv ratings are verifiable, right? You can look up which games/ programs bring in the most viewers......so if it's an actual fact Georgia brings in more viewers than clemson, then why would we wish to have Clemsons viewership? Seems odd to me
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UGA playing another semi competitive team, not UGA alone ??***
Jul 3, 2022, 5:13 PM
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 4:15 PM
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We've always heard of an alliance between UF, South Carolina, and Georgia (maybe Kentucky too) that would vote together to block SEC entrance to any of those school's respective in-state rival.
Is that still in effect? A similar position did not help Texas A&M when the longhorns were invited. I would be surprised to hear the SEC has rolled out a red carpet for Clemson.
I'm not sure how much local TV markets will continue to matter. If Clemson, FSU and Miami are available to add any conference should be able to get more money from a TV contract with them included.
I hope Clemson goes to the SEC since it would be easier to visit road games closer to home. The B1G and its money would be better for Clemson than staying in the ACC.
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 4:21 PM
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I've always heard there were some teams who had a pact to keep certain teams out but I've never seen proof and from my standpoint I don't see why Georgia would want to keep Clemson out. Richt and Smart both wanted to renew the rivalry with Clemson. Not sure why Georgia would be scared of GT joining the SEC either. I can't speak for other programs but it wouldn't make that much sense to try and keep instate schools out.....outside of GT since they bring nothing to the table, outside of academics lol.
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 4:42 PM
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Must be something to it. Same logic would cause the SEC to hide behind Covid and not play those in state rivalry games in 2020.
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 4:48 PM
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Sec was leading the charge for playing during the pandemic lol. Doubt they'd cancel 3 easy wins against GT/Louisville and FSU to stop one loss against Clemson.
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 4:51 PM
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No other logical explanation. Unless you’re ready to offer one.
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 5:57 PM
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No, SEC charter says approval of invitation must come from 75% of current members, so it will take 12 of 16 to issue invite. No single member has a veto.
If an invite is to be extended to Clemson the vote might include 1 or 2 negatives based on geography and pure politics, but rest assured if Sankey even asks for a vote he will have his 12 based 100% on $$$$ being greater.
I think it happens with Clemson early year pay outs being somewhat reduced to cover SEC paying the GoR cancellation costs.
Disney/ESPN can help make end result economics attractive to all parties, especially their own. They now know college football is a two company contest, ESPN and the coast-to-coast BiG versus ESPN with expanded SEC.
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 6:04 PM
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whoops, Fox with BiG vs ESPN with SEC.
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 7:09 PM
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Ive heard that too but to me its the dumbest thing in tje world. They have two teams in Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, and now Texas.
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 4:16 PM
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This is the finest troll the dogs could send? Bout what I'd expect from those dropouts.
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 4:21 PM
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He is not expecting any intelligent discourse because he is half of the equation. About what you would expect from most UGA fans.
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 4:25 PM
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Clemson has a 70% win percentage against the SEC in the last decade. Not to mention 2 nattys. You should do your homework before spewing garbage here. We would be fine in the eSECpn.
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 4:29 PM
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There's a difference between playing one off games against a conference and an entire schedule against a conference. I know here in tigernet y'all believe in recruiting bumps for the SEC, NFL scouts being in on the conspiracy and drafting SEC players higher than they should be. The entire media being in on propping up the sec...but the simple fact is, we are the best conference with the best collective group of players. You can get away with not bringing your A game against 90% of your games in the ACC. Do that in the SEC and you miss the playoffs. You're playing 2-3 national championship level teams in the regular season and one in the conference champ every year just to make the playoffs. No more playing 0 ranked teams until the playoffs like you do in the ACC.
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 4:45 PM
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Who did GA play last year that was national championship level during the regular season??? The best team y’all played in the regular season was Clemson and we weren’t at that level last year.
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See… this guy knows fax! Yes! Yes! Yes! ????***
Jul 3, 2022, 5:18 PM
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Yes we’ve heard about the juggernaut
Jul 3, 2022, 8:18 PM
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schedule excuse many times before. You’re just so wore out and banged up by the end of the year and we are still fresh blah blah blah. There are a lot of sub-par football teams in the SEC.
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 4:27 PM
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Barkley, you can't be very intelligent yourself because neither Dabo nor Smart or any other coach has anything to do with NIL. There are still 5 months before signing day and we are ahead of you in recruiting so Dabo must be doing something right whether it be NIL or not.
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 4:32 PM
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If you think universities and the HCs arent involved in NIL you're kidding yourself. Also, Georgia literally does this every year in recruiting...same as bama. Bama was like 80th in the country at this point last year and then we all start landing players late in the cycle. I'm fairly confident we'll be just fine in recruiting, no matter what the rankings in July are lol.
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Imagine an IGA fan leading a question with
Jul 3, 2022, 4:31 PM
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a jab only to find out nobody gives a chit in the first place. I don’t care about conferences. I don’t care about the SEC and I sure as hail don’t care about your perception of any of it.
That’s my honest opinion.
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Re: Imagine an IGA fan leading a question with
Jul 3, 2022, 4:33 PM
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89% pulse. Ouch. Must not bleed orange.
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55% better than ye, Moran.
Jul 3, 2022, 4:37 PM
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Most of the Joe Joe trolls here struggle with numbers doh.
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Re: 55% better than ye, Moran.
Jul 3, 2022, 4:50 PM
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Well as I've stated, I'm a Georgia fan. Why would I bleed orange? "Doh"
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Since you’re a Joe Joe fan and of stunted intellect,
Jul 3, 2022, 5:05 PM
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I’ll throw you a bone. Your pulse has nothing to do with whether you bleed orange or not. Once you’ve hit sub-50, you’re considered a significant doosche. Congerts.
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Re: Imagine an IGA fan leading a question with
Jul 4, 2022, 6:11 PM
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89% pulse. Ouch. Must not bleed orange.
Well at least he doesn't have -100 points + 10% pulse!!! ????????
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 4:38 PM
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Yes, look at Clemson’s record vs the SEC over the last 10 years. I’m pretty sure we are 3-0 vs Auburn, 2-0 vs TAMU, 2-2 vs Bama, maybe 1-1 vs LSU, and 1-2 vs GA. And still dominating SC at 7-2. I may be off a game or so but that’s 16-7 or something very close to it and more than half of the wins against teams not named SC. Not to mention 3-1 vs Ohio St and 3-1 vs Notre Dame during that time as well. Clemson isn’t worried about being able to compete in the SEC and have proved that over the last 10 years.
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 5:12 PM
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Any objective opinion must recognize the value that Clemson will bring to any football conference they might join. Sold!
But? Does their addition bring more $$$$$ from any huge new media contract being split among a larger SEC at 16, 18, or 20 members? At evaluating 16, following Texas and Oklahoma, the much larger pie justified the 2 additional teams.
You can be certain that Greg Sankey and the Walt Disney Company are modeling this issue in ways that us laymen could not imagine.
In their ultimate analysis all the "soft" values, brand, academics, alumni base, etc. etc. will have import but the conclusion, thus decision on more members and which ones will be a 10+ year forecast of derived revenue per member, with the extra payouts due additional members a major factor.
The league took in UTex which admittedly has not recently had the on field success of Clemson but, and its a huge but, the brand, exposure and reputational benefit by adding Texas would be much higher that Clemson's, Even A&M at the end recognized adding their in-state blood rival would mean more money and they voted yes.
Will the current 14 reach a similar conclusion on a Clemson invite?
Understand Sankey is no Swofford and whatever his decision it will first and foremost be based not on locking in members forever, but adding additional income immediately.
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Don’t forget the streaming paradigm breaks open trad media
Jul 3, 2022, 5:24 PM
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So what used to be channel restricted, well now that restriction is gone. Game interest will drive who will get streamed. And guess what, the home team will lime up and pay the commentators too in order to create more open access to more games. The commentators and production quality may suffer a little, but the viewers will vote with their eyes now!
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Hahaha it’s a pompous uga fan
Jul 3, 2022, 4:43 PM
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Exactly why I want to join the B1G
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Re: Hahaha it’s a pompous uga fan
Jul 3, 2022, 4:51 PM
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You want to join the BIG because you have to play OSU then walk through the rest of the schedule. It'll almost be like you never left the ACC outside of the longer travel times.
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Re: Hahaha it’s a pompous uga fan
Jul 3, 2022, 5:40 PM
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I’m guessing about 7 BIG schools have more Titles than your mutts. Welcome to the party. It’s about time.
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Nah it would be fun to hit
Jul 3, 2022, 8:38 PM
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Happy valley, big house, horse shoe, hell even Wisconsin. The SEC and it’s fans are disgusting
We belong in a league with some sort of academic standards
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Re: Hahaha it’s a pompous uga fan
Jul 3, 2022, 8:45 PM
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Cat I was scrolling through your posts for awhile enjoying your arrogance but this one above is a showstopper. You do NOT have much better teams to play than what’s in the Big 10. As usual there are several very good ones at the top then it falls off in both conferences. The ones below sometimes have decent seasons but aren’t consistently good year in and year out.
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 4:51 PM
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You made some good points about the economics of the thing but we bring more to the table than roughly half your league so what do you need them for? I'd turn the question around and ask why not? You're probably right in suggesting it would have been done by now though. Clemson would not have signed that grant of rights if they thought it was in their future.
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Another smart take …***
Jul 3, 2022, 5:25 PM
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Clemson offers a brand that oozes with integrity and quality
Jul 3, 2022, 4:58 PM
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Unlike UGA or Scar or TN or LSU or FL or TAM or Texas or OK… Bama knows this… They want another good character, hard nosed competitor.
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 4:59 PM
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You beat us with a pick 6. If you would have lost to us then you would have not had a shot a National title. You realize we finally had a down year and only had 10 wins and awful QB play and a decimated roster. Just saying you owe us for you getting a shot at winning the title after 4 decades. If the SEC least ever gets better than an Atlantic Sun football team then you will be in trouble.
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 5:03 PM
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You realize on any given year outside of last year, the east has 3 if not more top 15 teams in it. That's more than the entire acc any given year. I'm sure you'll reply with eSECpn ranking bumps or whatever other conspiracy theory you want to throw out. Simple fact is we beat you down multiple starters that game. Wasn't your entire fanbase saying you wouldn't miss a beat from Lawrence with DJU? He looked great in the 2 games he played in the year before. So either two things happened. Clemson failed to continue to develop him, or he played one of the best defenses in CFB history his first game as the actual starter and never recovered from that humbling experience.
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Or and this is a big or
Jul 3, 2022, 5:18 PM
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flying in the face of your bs homer narrative, DJ regressed with issues you know nothing about.
It was Joe Joe that played the best defense they saw all season. It was only a descent field goal…
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 5:00 PM
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It’s an arms race now. Do you want the BIG to get a program in your backyard with 2 National Championships against your top team? Or do you get them to protect your backyard? More than likely if this turns into a race between two conferences then who wants the team who has won two NC and played for 4 total with 6 CFP appearances in the last 10 years? It’s either pick them or your opponent will. Who else out there has that resume other than Bama?
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Clemson = Bama in stature … deal with it!***
Jul 3, 2022, 5:28 PM
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 5:06 PM
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Mouth breather
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Orange Blooded [3389]
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Hey Bark,
Jul 3, 2022, 5:08 PM
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I didn’t read your whole post, but think I get the gist of it.
I don’t think most Clemson fans care about joining the SEC, at least until the ACC has run its course. Unlike nearly every SEC program, Clemson has its own identity, and generally doesn’t care about riding the coattails of other programs when they peak (ex: we never really cheered on FSU, like you guys did with Bama).
Maybe it will make sense for Clemson to join the SEC one day—who knows what realignment will bring. But it’s just another athletic conference, not some grand destination. At least, not for us.
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 5:27 PM
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Well basically, you are just full of crap and don't understand Clemson and its relationship with the SEC. We have everything you have except maybe the level of cheating. Since you are probably under 30 and living in your parents basement, let me educate you on the long standing relationship with Clemson and Georgia specifically and the SEC in general. When Clemson was compiling the majority of those losses against the SEC, we were either a small military school, by SEC standards, that actually had academic standards for all students, including athletes. I can't tell you how many football players we lost to Georgia and other SEC schools because they simply could not get into Clemson academically ...... many of them from the Clemson /Seneca area as well as Greenville where a number of my friends played for UGA. I would also be willing to bet that the majority of those games we played against the SEC were away games. Once the playing fields were leveled, I think we can say that we have done well against the SEC ...... particularly the best college football team of all times ..... until they played us ..... something like 44-16.
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Yep… you are correct… once the playing field was leveled
Jul 3, 2022, 5:31 PM
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The SEC and B1G had to push to change it. Funny how that works… ????
At least we know as those two conference kill amateur sports, Clemson demonstrated how good they are and did it the right way. Academics first!
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 5:35 PM
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Lmfao god I hope we do join to sec to shut the idiots up, one title in 40 years now they are acting like they are bama. Mindless fools honestly can’t see without bama and georgia the sec ain’t the godlike conference they believe it is.
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 5:36 PM
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would rather avoid your trashy ash conference at all cost
would rather dismantle the program
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Either you’re a troll or an idiot or both!
Jul 3, 2022, 5:44 PM
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Because insulting people before trying to say you wanna have a conversation with them is always an intelligent thing to do.
Second, you have to realize that every school has dumb fans. Especially young ones. Sure what he posted looks bad when you compare Clemson to the SEC. That’s because Clemson‘s been playing SEC schools for 100 years. Let’s look at Clemson‘s record against the SEC over the last 10 years. Only Alabama has beaten more top 25 teams over the last 10 years. Clemson has beaten more top 25 teams than Georgia has played when you look at the final polls which are the only ones that matter. FYI this is not my opinion this was posted a couple years ago by Saturday’s down south which is an SEC Homer publication.
I don’t give a crap what Clemson‘s record was against SEC teams back in the day. All that matters is today and the future. You think Clemson is scared of Vanderbilt, Kentucky, South Carolina, Mississippi, Arkansas, Florida, Mississippi State, I mean the SEC has a lot of terrible teams. The SEC gets a lot of hype but it would be nothing without Georgia and Alabama.
You don’t need another football school or baseball? Then why did you add Texas? And Clemson baseball is down right now but it will be back.
A lot of Clemson fans don’t want to go to the SEC because y’all suck in soccer and that’s one of the biggest sports in America and we’re kick ### in men’s and women’s soccer.
Have you seen our softball team? I’m sure you wouldn’t like that in the SEC.
We have a pretty fair golf team if you haven’t been paying attention.
Clemson is a natural SEC fit and even Paul Finebum said a few years ago the SEC got the wrong school from South Carolina.
Clearly you have an SEC education. That part is obvious. And you certainly have that SEC arrogance!
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Re: Either you’re a troll or an idiot or
Jul 3, 2022, 6:17 PM
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The Sankey move to add members or not never even glances at university teams outside of football.
If you join you will soon see his ultimate goal, that will occur in next 5 years, is to totally separate college football from NCAA into a new majors-only enterprise that develops rules, regulation, everything connected with college football. each memberr institution will be free t chart their own course of paying for basketball and Olympic sports.
He has envisioned a whole new universe where history and traditions have little import.
Forward looking and financially aggressive are his M.O. He will overlook all the negatives that are thrown by current rivals.
If he cannot quantify an issue in dollars, those issues don't even exist. The guy has vision well beyond the horizon.
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Re: Either you’re a troll or an idiot or both!
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Can't disagree with most of your post. That said, you are the only Clemson fan I have ever hear (or read) who suggested sports like golf and soccer have any bearing on this. You think Clemson fans would turn down SEC money so they could win more championships in womens' soccer?
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 5:52 PM
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barkley, dont you have another board you can post to? like maybe a uga dog board. oh how stupid of me, to do that there has to be at least one other person that can conger up a thought and then be able to form it into a sentence. sorry dwags
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 6:59 PM
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Lol firstly this is ESPN calling the shots and there will be 2 divisions and Nrither will ultimately be called sec or Big10 now go away!!!
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 7:41 PM
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That’s right look at our record against SEC the past 10 years, pretty solid.
Comical that you mention baseball. Baseball is not part of the conference realignment discussion.
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 7:41 PM
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That’s right look at our record against SEC the past 10 years, pretty solid.
Comical that you mention baseball. Baseball is not part of the conference realignment discussion.
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 7:48 PM
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The conference realignment is all about football. There are going to be two super conferences, the SEC and B1G. The SEC wants Clemson, a top five program, to keep the B1G out of the SEC’s backyard. Can you imagine having OSU, Michigan,USC, UCLA, and Penn State playing in Death Valley? None way does the SEC want that to occur.
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 8:06 PM
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Funny how you mention you don’t expect intelligent responses yet your OP is full of ignorant comments.
No I don’t expect the SEC to roll out the red carpet or come begging Clemson to join. But do I think if they want to compete with the B1G for power they will come offer Clemson? Yes. So will the B1G. ND and Clemson are the only big time players left in regards to TV viewership. We rank in the top ten in viewership per game and that equals money. Also we are a top 10 football program. Yes college football is what is driving all this. They don’t care about any other sport because the money is in “football”.
Did I talk slow enough for you big dog?
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 8:10 PM
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You're right. The SEC would be stupid to take in Clemson when everyone is just going crazy over watching Vandy, UK and UT in the East and all those awesome games that MS State and Arkansas play in.
Mizzou is can't miss TV either. Clemson football adds nothing. Clemson golf and Clemson soccer all are worthless too.
When you compare our history recently against Bama to Georgia's, there is even less reason to join the SEC.
That 41 year drought ending has got Dawg fans with the big head. Enjoy it while you can. Dawgs ahould have won several Nattys by now, but Kirby being such the game day genius he is, has cost you.
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 4, 2022, 9:16 AM
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That’s exactly right. Outside of Georgia, the East is super weak and has been for a long time. Take out Bama, and the west isn’t really all that much better, in reality. But, let little dawg fan have his little fun.
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 8:24 PM
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It could be the two titles we have won recently. Or maybe you could point to the amount of playoff appearances. The only team to have more is Alabama. Clemson is still college royalty let me know when UGA is more than a one hit wonder and we will talk.
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Wonder what the new super conference name will be?
Jul 3, 2022, 8:39 PM
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Twiddle Dee and Twiddle Dumb?
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I have no interest in going to either
Jul 3, 2022, 9:05 PM
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conference but we’ll be forced to do so. We are a perfect fit for the SEC geographically and will be competitive in most sports. There’s lots of arrogance in both conferences. It would be tough traveling to the Big 10 schools for away games. More expensive for fans. I can imagine most SEC fans think we are foaming at the mouth to get in the SEC. Not so for me. I’m good and before it’s mentioned it’s not because Clemson is intimidated by the SEC. I’m just not interested in being there other than the money.
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 8:48 PM
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There are predictable things little people with a small I.Q. like to do to feel big. One is to get on a fan site and pretend to be something they probably are not, then try to belittle your team. It is rare that a nice fan from another team comes around to have a logical conversation without looking for a way to use your response to criticize and attempt to belittle you and your team.
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 9:14 PM
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Nice try coot. You have to be a coot to be this dumb.
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 3, 2022, 9:21 PM
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I’ve mentioned before there are many SEC schools that would be terrified of brining Clemson to the SEC. The only item SEC schools have to outrecruit Clemson was the SEC. If That goes away Clemson would be a sleeping giant in the SEC. We practically recruit at the same level in the ACC. Why would any SEC school want to bring a sleeping giant like Clemson into their conference to take away from their success? Seems like it’s an uphill battle to me.
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Where's Bevo when you need him...?***
Jul 4, 2022, 2:16 AM
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Re: Where's Bevo when you need him...?***
Jul 4, 2022, 9:14 AM
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Right here.
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 4, 2022, 9:13 AM
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Resident Texas fan here, I guess you’re still pissed over Arch and yesterday’s loss of Sydir Mitchell to UT. Bwahahahahaha. Remember you were throwing butt turds first, little dawg fan.
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CU Guru [1868]
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Hey guys I’m a fan of another team
Jul 4, 2022, 9:16 AM
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Which makes me smarter than you. I know that fans of your team aren’t capable of intelligent conversation, so I’m here to see if i can get some dumb responses from you, because I am bored and have no life?
That about right? K, i have to go post on a isc board now cuz, you know . . . I suck
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 4, 2022, 4:52 PM
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Well, if you think that the SEC has expanded in order to "be the best" from top to bottom and you want to chant "SEC, SEC, SEC" then maybe Clemson isn't necessary.
The fact is that this is all about money - driving contracts and creating media networks. The SEC isn't thinking (IMO) about being an East / West conference. They want to pod the thing into four divisions - all chalk full of excellent football teams that can complete. They want to tell the NCAA to buzz off and die while revamping the playoff system. The SEC with four pods of (say) six teams; each pod champion goes to the eight team NC playoff. Same thing in the BIG ... 48 teams splitting all of that revenue would be a SICK amount of money. Anything like that is going to include Clemson. Clemson is a top player and brand in college football ... they will be involved and they're either going to be in the SEC or somewhere else. I would imagine that the SEC wants them in the conference rather than somewhere else. Clemson is in a cat bird position and won't be in any big hurry or panic to make a deal happen - the deal will come to them and it will be enticing. Of all of the ACC schools (or schools anywhere for that matter), Clemson is sitting in a great place right now. Relative to USC, Clemson is a behemoth in tradition, reputation, prestige and quality of program. The USC thing is a non-issue; who cares? Clemson will bring revenue and lots of it to wherever it goes. Hate Clemson or not, it's true.
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Re: Resident Georgia fan here
Jul 4, 2022, 6:33 PM
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You sound worried. All I’m saying…..if we get in i that conference with you clowns….y’all know you don’t wanna be the team to lose to CU….kinda like Mizzou won’t the east when they first got in there. Real tough huh?
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Peck Dirt
Jul 4, 2022, 6:35 PM
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Coot
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