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Regional tidbits
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Jun 3, 2024, 1:57 PM
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So, the mighty SEC did not materialize! They had 11 teams to get "invited", and with two games set for today, they have 4 in, with the possibility of 6. The best they can do is 6 of 11, the worst, 4 of 11 in the supers.
The SEC home teams were 13-2, The away teams were (so far) 9-10. The SEC teams were (so far) 2 wins and 4 losses to the ACC. The best they can do is 3-4, the worst is 2-5 (if UNC beats LSU).
The ACC had 8 teams "invited" and has 4 in the supers, with one to decide. The current record is 4 of 7 made it to the supers. If UNC wins today, then they will have 5 teams in the supers, and 5 of 8 total.
The ACC homes teams are 14-1 with the UNC score to come. The away teams were 5-8.
Of 6 regionals that had reps from both leagues, the ACC has won 4, with the UNC game to come, and the SEC has won one!
So, the stats are pretty close between the leagues, but no matter what happens in the UNC-LSU game today, the SEC will have a losing record against the ACC! And if UNC wins, it will be indicative of the superiority of the ACC to the SEC, even though the "experts" think otherwise!
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Re: Regional tidbits
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Jun 3, 2024, 2:12 PM
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You must also figure the SEC gets the easiest matchups in most cases which is provided by the NCAA.
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Look at the baseball site on SECSPORTS.com verses THEACC.com
Jun 3, 2024, 4:09 PM
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the acc has four bids in hand and another one still in play. The last article posted n theca.com was about Duke winning the tournament over week ago. sec site breaks down each regional, up to date scores if who's still in and who's eliminated.
its like they are not even trying in the front office. night and day difference
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Re: Regional tidbits
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Jun 3, 2024, 2:12 PM
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No experts only paychecks.
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Re: Regional tidbits
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Jun 3, 2024, 2:35 PM
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Ga tech was a stretch imo. But uga losing first game in sec tournament was gifted an easy regional... and tech still almost stretched it to today.
Anyway, dookies didn't surprise me too much, but if I were a gambler, I'd have put money on wake winning the ecu regional.
Thanks for the post.
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doesn't matter, the SEC is the greatest sports conference on Earth in all sports
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Jun 3, 2024, 2:49 PM
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Everyone knows that.
signed, eSECpn
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Re: doesn't matter, the SEC is the greatest sports conference on Earth in all sports
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Jun 3, 2024, 3:04 PM
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We may not agree with that, but we are going to be told that regardless of how much truth is in it!!!
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Orange Phenom [14624]
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I think it's a bit early to claim superiority either way
Jun 3, 2024, 2:51 PM
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Let's at least see how many get to Omaha.
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If the SEC doesnt get 10 teams to Omaha, there's something wrong with the system***
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Jun 3, 2024, 3:08 PM
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Agree. The ACC shouldnt be even claiming a
Jun 3, 2024, 3:17 PM
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Round 1 victory. Both leagues had 5 teams seeded to advance to SRs. It’s still very possible that the SEC sends 6 and the ACC sends 4 to SRs. In which case they would have outperformed by 1 team and the ACC would have underperformed seeding by 1. Important that UNC knocks out LSU today. Gravy if OSU knocks out UF. The B12 definitely would be the league to look to for outperforming their seeding if OSU and OU both win. Their 1s would have advanced along with 2 3s if that is the case.
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Re: Agree. The ACC shouldnt be even claiming a
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Jun 3, 2024, 3:22 PM
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Head to head, the ACC won the regionals. That was the point. Yes, it is possible that it could all fizzle, but that is where we are right now!
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Re: Agree. The ACC shouldnt be even claiming a
Jun 3, 2024, 4:15 PM
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You'd expect the ACC to win the head to head given that of the 6 matchups thus far the ACC has been the higher seed in 5 of them. Yes, the ACC has a winning record against the SEC, the games are also largely being played between the ACC's top 5 teams and the SEC's 6-10 teams. The head to head record is meaningless at this point.
You want more respect than the SEC in baseball? It's going to take more than a couple ACC 1 seeds beating SEC 2 seeds. The SEC has had a participant in the CWS final in 6 straight tournaments. In 3 of those it's been SEC vs SEC (a fourth featured OU, a future SEC team). Of those 6 tournaments they've won 5 of them by 5 different programs. Their reputation of being the dominant baseball conference is built on results. Results that no other conference, ACC included, has come close to matching.
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SEC 5 of last 6 national champions. ACC 1 in the last
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Jun 3, 2024, 3:21 PM
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65 plus years.
Why even make the silly comparison?
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Re: SEC 5 of last 6 national champions. ACC 1 in the last
Jun 3, 2024, 3:25 PM
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The comparison is made because the SEC is favored during seeding...which makes them have more chances and with home field advantage, more success! Has happened for years, which results in the SEC getting more teams for you to brag on...You can't look at the Georgia regional and say that was fair!
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And they'll continue to be favored until teams
Jun 3, 2024, 3:32 PM
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start consistently beating them.
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Re: And they'll continue to be favored until teams
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Jun 3, 2024, 8:07 PM
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start consistently beating them.
Clemson has beaten USuC consistently through the years with some short periods when USuC has had better teams.
Overall record of 186-145-2 vs USuC.
Clemson vs U of Tenn: 23-12
Clemson vs UGA: 111-129-2
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Re: And they'll continue to be favored until teams
Jun 3, 2024, 8:07 PM
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start consistently beating them.
Clemson has beaten USuC consistently through the years with some short periods when USuC has had better teams.
Overall record of 186-145-2 vs USuC.
Clemson vs U of Tenn: 23-12
Clemson vs UGA: 111-129-2
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Re: SEC 5 of last 6 national champions. ACC 1 in the last
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Jun 3, 2024, 8:39 PM
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65 plus years.
Why even make the silly comparison?
He was only talking about this round of the NCAAT.
But let's look back at the NCAA Men's Basketball Tournamentn as a case in point. ESECPN told everyone that their prized teams (SEC) were the best and persuaded the selection committee to put 9 SEC teams in. How did that turnout? 6 SEC teams were eliminated (mostly by weak opponents) in their first games.
Meanwhile, the "not very good" ACC had 3 of the Elite Eight teams, while the SEC had only one.
The ESECPN plays up their conference and often gets undeserved ratings for their teams.
In Jan 2019, Stephen A. Smith ranted Bammer as the no. 5 best CFB team, the no. 4 best team, the no. 3 best team, the no. 2 best team, and the no. 1 best CF team EVER. And Clemson had no chance in the championship game. Paul Finebaum said the game would not be close. (He was right, but totally wrong.) Clemson won 44-16. With 10 minutes to go in the game Bammer downed a punt on Clemson's 2 yard line. Clemson drove the field down to the Bammer 3 yard line. Then Dabo emptied the bench and deliberately ran-out the clock. Bammer never got the ball back.
If not for Dabo's charity, CU would have scored 51 on the greatest CF team EVER.
SO, most Clemson fans know that most ESECPN talk is mostly undeserved hype for their prized Golden calf. We've heard it before.
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Re: Regional tidbits
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Jun 3, 2024, 8:42 PM
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The Tennessee regional was an absolute joke...MFers set the home run record in their own stadium this past weekend just literally walking through teams...and now they got a cookie matchup with Evansville in the super.
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