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All-Pro [765]
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Players and money
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May 25, 2024, 9:10 PM
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Serious question for folks about college athletes getting money. Did you not know this has been going on for decades? Or did you just not want to believe schools were doing it?
It's not new. Now, it's just out in the public.
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Gridiron Giant [15439]
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1 big difference
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May 25, 2024, 9:13 PM
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Donors were paying in the past. Schools will be paying in the future (and kids will be taxed).
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All-Pro [765]
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Re: 1 big difference
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May 25, 2024, 9:21 PM
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The point is the same. I keep hearing about the "purity" of college sports and amateurism. Neither has been true for decades. Didn't people not know? Or did they want to not know?
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Orange Beast [6598]
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Re: 1 big difference
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May 25, 2024, 9:24 PM
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How many players did Clemson have purchased off of the team prior to the transfer portal? This whole thing is apples and oranges. Yes Hershel Walker was paid by UGA. But no one will ever accuse Walker of not being a loyal dawg. There is a huge difference in what is going on now.
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All-Pro [765]
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Re: 1 big difference
May 25, 2024, 9:30 PM
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Clemson paid players back then too. Most schools did.
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Campus Hero [13511]
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Re: 1 big difference
May 25, 2024, 9:35 PM
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Name a Clemson player that got paid. You are not even close to whats happening today. The ones that got paid thousands have been outed like Hershel Walker and his new car. Not even close yrs ago even with inflation.
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Tiger Titan [48493]
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How much time do you have?
May 25, 2024, 9:43 PM
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I can assure you hundreds of players have been paid at Clemson over the past three or four decades
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Campus Hero [13511]
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Re: How much time do you have?
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May 25, 2024, 10:14 PM
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C'mon and belly up! I'm not talking about $100 handshakes, that was the way of the world. I was in with bunch players in '88-93. Them getting paid then was basically enough to pay for their additional food, gas to drive home, take a girl to the movies because players has zero chance to work based on rules. Players didn't have training tables, didn't have personal meal plans, and definitely didn't have the facilities or a stipend. What happens today is multiple universes away from a $500 handshake so a kid could drive home for his grandmother's bday.
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Campus Hero [13511]
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Re: How much time do you have?
May 25, 2024, 10:16 PM
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Most players had a dress out stipend of $35. That was huge to the players. They wanted to dress out just for the $35 even if 3rd string.
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Offensive Star [347]
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Of course they have.
May 25, 2024, 11:54 PM
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And if you notice, she’s only arguing that it wasn’t a lot of money. Lol
By the way, the same kind of charade goes on in terms of education. People want to believe the players are here for education but we all know the vast majority are not. This is true at every school. I know in the early 90s the players hardly went to class and I know someone who was at Clemson during the early Ford years and those players couldn’t find the classroom if they had to. It just happens. People are fooling themselves so they can continue to believe the myth that there’s something pure about this level of competition.
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Playmaker [391]
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Re: 1 big difference
May 26, 2024, 6:25 AM
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No.. just because you don't know about it, doesn't mean it didn't happen. It was happening back in the late 90s for sure. First hand knowledge over here. I've facilitated a few deals. No one got rich off it too my knowledge, but there were very large amounts of monies paid.
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Asst Coach [891]
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Re: 1 big difference
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May 25, 2024, 9:40 PM
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You mean adults will be taxed.
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Orange Phenom [14791]
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The amount of money then and now is exponentially different.***
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May 25, 2024, 9:27 PM
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Campus Hero [13511]
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May 25, 2024, 9:29 PM
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No it wasn't! Not even close! Yes a few got some booster handouts but they were getting a few thousand here and there. When big numbers were paid they were almost always sniffed out like the $140k to Cam's uncle, the new house and car to Bush's parents. Players were not getting paid to play especially not $6-7digits on a regular basis. Yeah, sure a $500 handshake happened but not $500k to a HS kid. Anyone that thinks like you are totally oblivious and have no clue.
Football players are already getting paid a stipend by the schools and Clemson was real close to $500 per month. Coots paid players almost $100 more in Stipend than Clemson. This money is free money intended to help players bring family to games or allow them to go on a date. Not to mention the free $150k they get in untaxed education and living expenses.
Now schools will pay millions on top of that along with NIL and these figures are absurd for 18yr olds. Yes kids were given 6digits already via all the benefits now its going to be multiple $6digits or $7digits. Its not going to last and schools will drop sports, offer fewer schollies, and course corrections will happen. No way D1 schools like App St, WF, ECU, Coastal, Citadel, etc, etc will ever maintain this pace.
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Re: Players and money
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May 25, 2024, 11:10 PM
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Free tuition should end if they get paid in my opinion.
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Varsity [104]
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That how the best athletes go to other schools...
May 26, 2024, 8:46 AM
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that offer scholarships as well as pay.
That's how our spirits teams be one non competitive.
If tuition stops being a benefit for athletes, then so does the requirement for them to be students. Ergo, they'd just be employees. There would be no eligibility requirement. No eligibility limits.
Are you sure that you want to go there?
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All-Conference [428]
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Re: Players and money
May 26, 2024, 8:24 AM
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I was told a Southern Conference school in SC just agreed to a $100,000 NIL to keep a top player and match a transfer portal offer he had.
A school in the SAC conference (Newberry’s conference) is paying 3 basketball players $40k on average. That’s crazy.
First and second string at Clemson and elsewhere will make at least $100k each. Maybe 3rd string as well. Fans will keep watching by and large but I think booster clubs at Clemson, etc will see a significant drop-off. The average 20 year player will make more than the average fan.
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Athletic Dir [1160]
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Re: Players and money
May 26, 2024, 12:31 AM
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I have no problem with players getting paid in the thousands say 5-10 thousand a year with everything else they get that should be more than enough but I also think players should have to sign a contract stipulating that if they transfer then it cant be for money it needs to be for playing time or not someo other problem. If you transfer you dont get paid anymore. I know it may not seem fare but I know a bunch of colleges would pick from lesser programs and try a money grab like they are doing today. I also think coaches if they decide to leave a school should have to pay the back a portion of there pay check. just like it is stipulated now that schools if they fire there coaches they have to pay a portion of the coaches salary. No athlete deserves millions of course I also think very few coaches deserve to get paid that much nor do I think TV contracts should be as high as they are.
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DON'T HATE THE PLAYA....
May 26, 2024, 8:27 AM
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...hate "the game".
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