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Piling on Dabo - Such as the AD at Liberty University
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Piling on Dabo - Such as the AD at Liberty University


Nov 29, 2022, 4:48 PM

Be careful what you wish for, seriously. I see all these people on hear calling Dabo this and Dabo that and that Dabo has sold his soul to DJU and some even say it's time for him to move on. Ignorant posts, totally, and I know you have every right to post what you think but even thinking anyone could do a better job at Clemson is nuts. Now, a whole lot of you aren't going to like what I'm about to say, because I'm going to use a name most of you hate. The high school I attended had moderate success a couple of times during the lifetime and it opened in 1955, even won 2 State Championships in football. But that was about it, nothing else close to exceptional until our school changed EVERYTHING in South Carolina High School Football, when they named Bobby Bentley the head coach. NOW, catch your breathes, don't stop reading, listen. Bentley won 10 or 11 State Championship, even beat the great John McKissick, EVERY time they faced each other, and make no bones, John McKissick WAS GREAT! Well folks, Bentley brought ESPN to High School Football in S.C., Standing room only at Byrnes, Dorman, Gaffney, and others, he also made every team, especially in the Upstate better, and those folks may not admit it but they know it's true. Had several teams on ESPN, and I won't call names, that would have never had the chance to play on National TV, coached many, D-1 Players including Willie Korn and Marcus Lattimore. Well, guess what some people didn't like it because his sons all played QB and all 3, (probably a 4th after this season) played QB in college, 2 who started for D-1 schools, and wanted to get rid of Bentley and he eventually did leave. Now all that being said, and the moral of this story...Byrnes High School hasn't sniffed a State Championship since he left, ESPN has forgot where Duncan S.C. is located and very few if any South Carolina high schools have been shown on ESPN, with perhaps the exception of Dutch Fork since. So be careful what you wish for, you might get it and become an also ran, or has been. One last thing, a lot of you are calling for Jeff Scott to come back, which I agree would be a good thing, but remember Bobby Bentley gave Jeff his first college coaching job at Presbyterian, where together they had the best offensive numbers in the nation Bentley's last year at P.C. Dabo has given several coaches their first shot, including Chad Morris. I don't want Dabo to go anywhere, or do anything other than what he has done for the past 14 or whatever number of years, win and win big. Get off the man's back or get out of Tiger Nation, or at least get off TigerNet. There is a moral to this story, I hope some of you morons get it!

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Re: Piling on Dabo - Such as the AD at Liberty University


Nov 29, 2022, 5:14 PM

Thanks for saying this!

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Re: Piling on Dabo - Such as the AD at Liberty University


Nov 29, 2022, 5:15 PM

Paragraphs.
They are a thing.

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No coach is bigger than the program… he is replaceable


Nov 29, 2022, 5:22 PM

So if Dabo keeps being sanctimonious and keeps threatening to leave when us lowly, lifelong fans want answers to legitimate questions and want to understand what, if any, changes will be made, then maybe it is time for him to go.

Again, no coach is irreplaceable.

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Re: No coach is bigger than the program… he is replaceable


Nov 29, 2022, 7:02 PM

Calling for Dabo to leave Clemson is about the dumbest thing I have read on here.

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Dabo is "not replaceable" at Clemson!!!


Nov 29, 2022, 7:06 PM

I agree 100%.

There are only 4 coaches currently coaching with a National Title. Prior to last season, there was only 3.

Dabo.
Saban.
Fisher.
Smart.

You don't want Jimbo anywhere near your campus( I don't ).

Saban is about to retire.

Smart is locked in to the talent rich Georgia scene and isn't going anywhere.

Folks act there are all these National Title winning coaches just hanging out. They aren't; cool your jets people. We aren't going to win a title every year!


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Then he can tell everyone to be happy with 10 wins and


Nov 29, 2022, 7:16 PM

Shut the eff up! The whole natty goal is no more! Hope Clemson Nation is ok with that new “standard”.

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Re: Then he can tell everyone to be happy with 10 wins and


Nov 29, 2022, 7:40 PM

If your identity and sense of self worth is wrapped up into a football team you likely need intense and ling term counseling . Seriously, if you've got no more to offer the world than your association with a college football team you're either in staff or terribly underestimate your sense of self worth.

Like Shattner told the trekies: get a life.

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Re: Then he can tell everyone to be happy with 10 wins and


Nov 29, 2022, 7:56 PM [ in reply to Then he can tell everyone to be happy with 10 wins and ]

TD’d for using “natty”.

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Season isn't over, Bill. Do you huff btw?***


Nov 29, 2022, 8:14 PM [ in reply to Then he can tell everyone to be happy with 10 wins and ]



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Re: Then he can tell everyone to be happy with 10 wins and


Nov 29, 2022, 10:11 PM [ in reply to Then he can tell everyone to be happy with 10 wins and ]

I certainly can live with 10 win seasons.

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Dang it HB, I like your takes, but on this one…


Nov 29, 2022, 11:01 PM [ in reply to Then he can tell everyone to be happy with 10 wins and ]

U wrong and dumb. Dabo is pretty good. Anybody else to replace him would be a relative crackhead.

I remember driving back from Tampa with the fam after 2016 natty. Listened to Rick neuheisel say that this cfp championship changes the university, not just the football program. He was right.

And while dabo is not above the university, he is very much the biggest reason why folks from all over the country apply here, go here, and raise the bar for the smallish school in Upstate SC.

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Re: Dabo is "not replaceable" at Clemson!!!


Nov 29, 2022, 10:31 PM [ in reply to Dabo is "not replaceable" at Clemson!!! ]

Exactly!!!!! If Dabo leaves who will Clemson get to replace him??? No one will be able to replace him and gave the same success he has had.

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Re: Dabo is "not replaceable" at Clemson!!!


Nov 29, 2022, 10:35 PM [ in reply to Dabo is "not replaceable" at Clemson!!! ]

I agree 100%. Also, Mack Brown says Hi when talking about National Championship coaches still active. We will see him soon.

GO TIGERS!

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Mack Brown too


Nov 30, 2022, 7:23 AM [ in reply to Dabo is "not replaceable" at Clemson!!! ]

But point taken. Not many in this elite club

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Re: No coach is bigger than the program… he is replaceable


Nov 29, 2022, 7:51 PM [ in reply to No coach is bigger than the program… he is replaceable ]

I think Dabo is irreplaceable.

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Re: No coach is bigger than the program… he is replaceable


Nov 30, 2022, 1:36 AM

Replaceable, yes. As successful, highly unlikely.
In fact, it is more probable that we would once again see 8-4 seasons (or worse).

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Re: No coach is bigger than the program… he is replaceable


Nov 30, 2022, 4:05 AM [ in reply to No coach is bigger than the program… he is replaceable ]

Not sure where all of the hostility is coming from. Are you ok?

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Re: No coach is bigger than the program… he is replaceable


Nov 30, 2022, 7:33 AM [ in reply to No coach is bigger than the program… he is replaceable ]

Some coaches are irreplaceable with Dabo likely being one of them. Unfortunately you can’t be sure until he leaves and your program goes in the tank

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I'd rather replace you.***


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Re: Piling on Dabo - Such as the AD at Liberty University


Nov 29, 2022, 5:45 PM

Saying that Dabo has stuck with DJ far to long is not ignorant. Look up the work ignorant and it's meaning.

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Re: Piling on Dabo - Such as the AD at Liberty University


Nov 29, 2022, 6:18 PM

I hate to even say these names but I will. Saban, Smart, Day, Harbaugh, Riley and a couple dozen more would not have continued running DJ out on the field as QB 1.

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Correct sir. Nor would they keep an OC like ours…


Nov 29, 2022, 7:18 PM

Saban is firing his OC here shortly.

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Re: Piling on Dabo - Such as the AD at Liberty University


Nov 29, 2022, 10:59 PM [ in reply to Re: Piling on Dabo - Such as the AD at Liberty University ]

TD if you must. But here are quick facts:

Saban pulled Hurts for Tua, won Championship and Hurts transferred to Oklahoma.

Riley replaced Rattler for Williams, lost 1 game with Williams starting, beat Oregon in the Alamo Bowl, Rattler transferred and Williams transferred to So Cal following Riley there.

Smart replaced Daniels for "injury" with Bennett after bad Clemson game, won championship, and Daniels transferred to WV.

Dabo replaced Stout and Bryant with DW4 and TL16, respectively, as freshmen.

We don't know about Klubnik because he has not been given a real chance. This a 5 star QB with 2 Texas state championships as starter and one as a back-up at the highest level in the state. A QB from a High School that has put more QBs in the NFL than any other. He was ready enough when he stepped on campus last January. I understand why DJ got the start but performance has dictated otherwise.


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BBBII


Nov 29, 2022, 6:58 PM

BBBII® I agree with what you are saying here. I remember when Byrnes came on the scene with Bentley - as you said, "it was a complete comination for a decade"!
I will say, and you have to admit this too, "he had the S.S & C coach Shrock" who as much as he did - changed S. Carolina h.s. football.

Byrnes was conditioned like a college team and "on a different level" and it showed on the field. His play calling was also next level. Those two things combined did make Byrnes wildly successful.

South Pointe and Rock Hill High are teams I follow here in Rock Hill. Both very successful programs. Both have had coaching changes that have changed the culture dramatically when those leaders left. Same support system, same availability of athletes in RH, etc. Yet, the success on the field is different.

Dutch Fork to my knowledge was not winning State Championships and putting out a ton of FBS talent prior to Tom Knotts. I think they maybe had a couple of decent seasons at best. But, no Championships that I know of. Irmo won one or two maybe. Dutch Fork is almost unbeatable now; just with that coaching change.
You talk to some of the cocky DF fans and I just shake my head! Because when they were a doormat program; they wasn't talking all that noise. Now, they walk around like they junk don't stink. They walk around a bit entitled to me, in fact.
But, to your point, let him leave(Knotts). Not saying it will return to where it was before he got there; but everybody thinks over time: "it's our community and it's the support staff it's not the Coach"!

RHH and South Pointe and Byrnes have found out - that's not the case! All 3 BTW, despite being private schools have finished in the top 10 nationally at some point over the past 20 years! SP is still successful, but not to the level it should. Coaching is way more than people give it credit for.
And, much like the DF fans, I referenced who have selective amnesia of those dark days, I think some CU fans have forgotten when we just wanted to "get to a decent bowl game"! "Get bowl eligible"! things like that. Winning is hard and it's not just a cliche; when Dabo says that. Even if some of you don't respect the competition in the ACC. It's still hard because you are everybody's Super Bowl.

I am with you in that: "I have been around when it wasn't so good"! I do not want Dabo to go anywhere!
He built it - he can tear it down(temporarily in order to revamp it).

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Re: Piling on Dabo - Such as the AD at Liberty University


Nov 29, 2022, 7:04 PM

Coach Bentley did not leave Brynes HS because some folks wanted to get rid of him. He left to take the HC job at his alma mater, Presbyterian college. A promotion.

He later came back to Brynes HS for one year to help lead their transition to a higher sub division. He then left one year later to take the OC job at Auburn. Had he been run off from Byrnes, I doubt he would ever have come back.

But it was a good story even though paragraphs would have helped.

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Re: Piling on Dabo - Such as the AD at Liberty University


Nov 29, 2022, 7:58 PM

The point was their lack of success without him - not the reason for his leaving.

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Re: Piling on Dabo - Such as the AD at Liberty University


Nov 30, 2022, 4:55 AM

Thank you

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Re: Piling on Dabo - Such as the AD at Liberty University


Nov 29, 2022, 8:10 PM [ in reply to Re: Piling on Dabo - Such as the AD at Liberty University ]

Bingo. I was gonna post a similar statement because the original post was revisionist history on why / how Bentley left. When Bentley came back they basically forced him back in the system at the expense of Chris Miller (who won 4 state titles in 7 years at Byrnes as HC). After they did Miller dirty that was when the downfall of Byrnes truly began.

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"Did him dirty" ?


Nov 30, 2022, 7:18 AM

Miller left Byrnes to be the HC at Spartanburg-

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Re: "Did him dirty" ?


Nov 30, 2022, 12:58 PM

Exactly. They forced Bentley back in the district when he was tired of driving to PC by creating a position at the DO out of thin air, then made Miller put him on staff. Miller then went to SHS a couple years later where he wouldn’t be told how to manage his staff and have Bentley looking over his shoulder waiting in the wings. The DO then did what they wanted and moved Bentley back to HC at Byrnes. Doesn’t matter but at the time it was pretty obvious in D5 why Miller left.

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Re: Piling on Dabo - Such as the AD at Liberty University


Nov 29, 2022, 7:09 PM

Unless you post in all caps and have run-on sentences I cannot take you seriously. And, if reading some of what has been posted bothers you so much then perhaps watching some re-runs of Friends may take the edge off.

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Didn't you get the memo of 2021?


Nov 29, 2022, 8:00 PM

'Friends' is not culturally apropro due to lack of diversitAAAAy.hth helps

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Re: Piling on Dabo - Such as the AD at Liberty University


Nov 29, 2022, 7:13 PM

Is the moral of this story that South Carolina public education failed to teach you proper formatting?

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Re: Piling on Dabo - Such as the AD at Liberty University


Nov 29, 2022, 7:30 PM

Tolstoy would be proud of your post. I have more experience at my job than our entire offensive staff has actual coaching experience. Usually, experience matters and it is a great teacher. Would you have a major surgery with a doc that has 2 yrs experience at a procedure or one with 20? Betting that all of these guys are prodigies is a stretch. One or two maybe, but not the whole staff.

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Bruh, I appreciate you.But dang learn the art of paragraphs!


Nov 29, 2022, 7:56 PM



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ah g d, you want me to read it to you...


Nov 30, 2022, 7:26 AM

so you don't hurt yourself-

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Wherever Dabo lands they’re going to expect huge things


Nov 29, 2022, 7:58 PM

From him for the money he and his staff are making. The only way to reduce pressure is to take a less prominent position. The threat to go coach somewhere else is defensive, selfish and childish. Nowhere will he go and find stubbornness and bad decisions beyond reproach.

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Re: Piling on Dabo - Such as the AD at Liberty University


Nov 29, 2022, 8:06 PM

BBBII® said:

Be careful what you wish for, seriously. I see all these people on hear calling Dabo this and Dabo that and that Dabo has sold his soul to DJU and some even say it's time for him to move on. Ignorant posts, totally, and I know you have every right to post what you think but even thinking anyone could do a better job at Clemson is nuts. Now, a whole lot of you aren't going to like what I'm about to say, because I'm going to use a name most of you hate. The high school I attended had moderate success a couple of times during the lifetime and it opened in 1955, even won 2 State Championships in football. But that was about it, nothing else close to exceptional until our school changed EVERYTHING in South Carolina High School Football, when they named Bobby Bentley the head coach. NOW, catch your breathes, don't stop reading, listen. Bentley won 10 or 11 State Championship, even beat the great John McKissick, EVERY time they faced each other, and make no bones, John McKissick WAS GREAT! Well folks, Bentley brought ESPN to High School Football in S.C., Standing room only at Byrnes, Dorman, Gaffney, and others, he also made every team, especially in the Upstate better, and those folks may not admit it but they know it's true. Had several teams on ESPN, and I won't call names, that would have never had the chance to play on National TV, coached many, D-1 Players including Willie Korn and Marcus Lattimore. Well, guess what some people didn't like it because his sons all played QB and all 3, (probably a 4th after this season) played QB in college, 2 who started for D-1 schools, and wanted to get rid of Bentley and he eventually did leave. Now all that being said, and the moral of this story...Byrnes High School hasn't sniffed a State Championship since he left, ESPN has forgot where Duncan S.C. is located and very few if any South Carolina high schools have been shown on ESPN, with perhaps the exception of Dutch Fork since. So be careful what you wish for, you might get it and become an also ran, or has been. One last thing, a lot of you are calling for Jeff Scott to come back, which I agree would be a good thing, but remember Bobby Bentley gave Jeff his first college coaching job at Presbyterian, where together they had the best offensive numbers in the nation Bentley's last year at P.C. Dabo has given several coaches their first shot, including Chad Morris. I don't want Dabo to go anywhere, or do anything other than what he has done for the past 14 or whatever number of years, win and win big. Get off the man's back or get out of Tiger Nation, or at least get off TigerNet. There is a moral to this story, I hope some of you morons get it!


BBBII® said:

Be careful what you wish for, seriously. I see all these people on hear calling Dabo this and Dabo that and that Dabo has sold his soul to DJU and some even say it's time for him to move on. Ignorant posts, totally, and I know you have every right to post what you think but even thinking anyone could do a better job at Clemson is nuts. Now, a whole lot of you aren't going to like what I'm about to say, because I'm going to use a name most of you hate. The high school I attended had moderate success a couple of times during the lifetime and it opened in 1955, even won 2 State Championships in football. But that was about it, nothing else close to exceptional until our school changed EVERYTHING in South Carolina High School Football, when they named Bobby Bentley the head coach. NOW, catch your breathes, don't stop reading, listen. Bentley won 10 or 11 State Championship, even beat the great John McKissick, EVERY time they faced each other, and make no bones, John McKissick WAS GREAT! Well folks, Bentley brought ESPN to High School Football in S.C., Standing room only at Byrnes, Dorman, Gaffney, and others, he also made every team, especially in the Upstate better, and those folks may not admit it but they know it's true. Had several teams on ESPN, and I won't call names, that would have never had the chance to play on National TV, coached many, D-1 Players including Willie Korn and Marcus Lattimore. Well, guess what some people didn't like it because his sons all played QB and all 3, (probably a 4th after this season) played QB in college, 2 who started for D-1 schools, and wanted to get rid of Bentley and he eventually did leave. Now all that being said, and the moral of this story...Byrnes High School hasn't sniffed a State Championship since he left, ESPN has forgot where Duncan S.C. is located and very few if any South Carolina high schools have been shown on ESPN, with perhaps the exception of Dutch Fork since. So be careful what you wish for, you might get it and become an also ran, or has been. One last thing, a lot of you are calling for Jeff Scott to come back, which I agree would be a good thing, but remember Bobby Bentley gave Jeff his first college coaching job at Presbyterian, where together they had the best offensive numbers in the nation Bentley's last year at P.C. Dabo has given several coaches their first shot, including Chad Morris. I don't want Dabo to go anywhere, or do anything other than what he has done for the past 14 or whatever number of years, win and win big. Get off the man's back or get out of Tiger Nation, or at least get off TigerNet. There is a moral to this story, I hope some of you morons get it!


He also had tons of family's move in that area. I really believe for the most part he got a lot group of players. I understand exactly what you're concerns are. I felt the same until I read the article yesterday of what Dabo Said. No man is above the program. Just didn't set well we me when Dabo made it clear that he's going to do what he wants and screw what y'all think. That's the way that took it.

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I obviously hope Dabo stays at Clemson for a long time


Nov 30, 2022, 12:00 AM

but this fear of him leaving is stupid. Dabo isn’t bigger than Clemson.

Dabo is replaceable. Everyone is. His replacement would be different from Dabo, for sure. But we would have the opportunity to bring in someone else
great, and we have the resources and commitment to be a great program beyond Dabo.

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Re: Piling on Dabo - Such as the AD at Liberty University


Nov 30, 2022, 6:44 AM

I don’t want Dabo to go anywhere. I just want him to fix the problems with the football team. Ignore the team’s record and fan comments for a minute. Also ignore the comments and articles from national sports writers. Just focus on two things. 1.) Clemson is one of a handful of schools that has not had a receiver go over 100 yards in more than a season. 2)Clemson has former players commenting on the poor play at QB on social media. Dabo just needs to make corrections in the football program to correct those two problems. If he does, the passing game is on fire again. As a bonus, the run game and defensive play will be better too.

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Were they saying he needed to take the Liberty AD job?


Nov 30, 2022, 11:52 AM

I missed all of that.

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Re: Piling on Dabo - Such as the AD at Liberty University


Nov 30, 2022, 12:02 PM

Please .No is piling on. Just that WE did not say Best is...... when the product equals the pay....

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Re: Piling on Dabo - Such as the AD at Liberty University


Nov 30, 2022, 7:23 PM

We’ll probably finish 12-2 and be ranked 7th or 8th and you want to bring Tommy Bowden or Ken Hatfield back. Nobody wins 13 games EVERY year.

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