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Ring of Honor [21223]
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Very happy to win. But mark my words,...
Oct 31, 2015, 8:55 PM
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special teams play is going to bite us sometime this year.
Dabo has a big decision to make.
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CU Guru [1127]
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Re: Very happy to win. But mark my words,...
Oct 31, 2015, 11:12 PM
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Ummm it has bitten us twice already. We have an antidote in the form of Deshaun Watson.
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Re: Very happy to win. But mark my words,...
Oct 31, 2015, 11:13 PM
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We cant give away 14 or so points and win a playoff game. D.W. is great, but he cant dig us out of these holes against other elite teams.
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Walk-On [139]
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Re: Very happy to win. But mark my words,...
Oct 31, 2015, 11:14 PM
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College students make mistakes on every team. The difference is our team is good enough to make mistakes and still win.
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National Champion [7244]
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Re: Very happy to win. But mark my words,...
Oct 31, 2015, 11:15 PM
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When playing other elite teams of equal talent level, the game will come down to who makes the least mistakes.
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Walk-On [139]
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I'm not sure that there are any elite teams this year...***
Oct 31, 2015, 11:21 PM
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Rival Killer [2634]
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You mean other than the Tigers?!.***
Nov 1, 2015, 7:49 AM
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yep
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Game Day Hero [4538]
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While I admit kick coverage troubles me
Oct 31, 2015, 11:16 PM
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Kick returns do almost as much. He returner never has a chance. I though HR got blown up on that one hit. Kid rarely has time to even catch it, foeget returning it. And that has been going on for a while now.
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Standout [241]
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Re: While I admit kick coverage troubles me
Oct 31, 2015, 11:18 PM
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Agree. And we almost gave up another one late in the game.
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Starter [375]
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Re: While I admit kick coverage troubles me
Nov 1, 2015, 7:58 AM
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Yeah, we hardly had any chances to make returns. Their punter was very very good.
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Legend [6629]
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Our special teams are crap
Oct 31, 2015, 11:20 PM
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I love this team, but calling a spade a spade here.
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Orange Blooded [4506]
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I love undefeated Clemson teams.***
Oct 31, 2015, 11:58 PM
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110%er [5887]
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Re: I love undefeated Clemson teams.***
Nov 1, 2015, 1:28 AM
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Yeah, special teams is definitely why we're undefeated. It could use no improvement whatsoever based on the fact that it certainly hasn't given teams opportunities that they otherwise wouldn't have on multiple occasions.
I'm glad there's not a scenario that would beget anyone dare mentioning that the mess on special teams could cost against a great team. Nothing to worry about, although I think the offense and defense deserve more credit for making up for the lapses on special teams.
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Starter [290]
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Re: Very happy to win. But mark my words,...
Nov 1, 2015, 12:13 AM
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Didn't it bite us today?
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Rock Defender [73]
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Re: Very happy to win. But mark my words,...
Nov 1, 2015, 12:37 AM
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Didn't bite us today?? ### are you talking about?? If we played solid special teams today the game would've been over long before it was today. I was stressing for all 4 quarters, had the special teams should up I could've enjoyed Halloween with my family.
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Athletic Dir [862]
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Re: Very happy to win. But mark my words,...
Nov 1, 2015, 12:44 AM
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Learn how to read
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110%er [6166]
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Didn't cost us the win ... this time ... but the definitely
Nov 1, 2015, 1:00 AM
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"bit us" severely today.
On offense and/or defense, there's no way NC State comes close to matching up with us, but special teams gave them the opportunity to make a game of it.
We're awful!
- TWO blocked extra points
- A 100 yard kickoff return
- A Boneheaded play covering on side kick
- A complete brain fart on covering a pooch kick
We have simply got to improve.
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Orange Blooded [2277]
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Re: Didn't cost us the win ... this time ... but the definitely
Nov 1, 2015, 1:06 AM
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Well good thing we still have games left to fix those issues. And it didn't just cost us a championship ????
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Orange Blooded [4378]
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Re: Very happy to win. But mark my words,...
Nov 1, 2015, 8:23 AM
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My God people, the OP is obviously talking about it coming back to bite us in the form of a loss against better teams. I'm sure he knew it cost us points in this game. And he's 100% correct, if these problems aren't fixed, it could very well cost us a loss and a playoff spot.
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Starter [369]
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Re: Very happy to win. But mark my words,...
Nov 1, 2015, 12:50 AM
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I agree it's a minor concern but it's only 2 returns. Come on.
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CU Medallion [18123]
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Have you found any positives about our 8-0 Tigers
Nov 1, 2015, 1:42 AM
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Who has beaten ND a very good NC State Team and BC with a tuff defense, GT who usually puts up a lot of points and a decent Miami team 58-0. No team is perfect but our Tigers find was to WIN.
I am positive Dabo is working very hard to improve special teams. So see if you can find something positive to post about this team.
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Rival Killer [2699]
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Pearman needs to go
Nov 1, 2015, 2:26 AM
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Not a great recruiter, and certainly many lackluster performances by his special teams units over the past 5 years (including today). Hines made a statement on special teams, and he's a guy that Pearman was responsible for recruiting here. We deserve better on KR/PR than Pearman's coaching
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Starter [290]
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Until the one return today
Nov 1, 2015, 7:05 AM
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They have been solid since fixing the coverage issues in first few games. Even today coverage was good minus the one play.
And Hines was always going to State IMO. He played with my oldest here in Raleigh...
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All-TigerNet [5618]
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Re: Pearman needs to go
Nov 1, 2015, 7:12 AM
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I heard Dabo say a couple weeks ago that Coach Hobby was special teams coach.
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CU Guru [1251]
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That Decision's Has Been Made
Nov 1, 2015, 6:48 AM
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A new special teams coordinator, we will not have.
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Athletic Dir [878]
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Re: Very happy to win. But mark my words,...
Nov 1, 2015, 7:53 AM
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I think we have extremely talented guys our kick team. They are fast, athletic and smart. What I see is these great athletes trying to make a play on their own. They are getting spread out a bit. Sometimes it is hard to coach elite players and maybe that's where a different coach may be needed
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National Champion [8084]
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Love it! We are too elite to play good KO cover ??***
Nov 1, 2015, 8:26 AM
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Orange Phenom [14618]
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TBH I'd rather just continue trying to kick it deep and
Nov 1, 2015, 7:56 AM
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use standard coverage. The cutesy stuff that we don't practice as much gets us in just as bad or worse shape as the KO returns. That pooch KO to the up man that got pitched back was just a disaster and then the next kickoff put them close to the 40.
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Starter [375]
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Re: TBH I'd rather just continue trying to kick it deep and
Nov 1, 2015, 8:09 AM
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I agree, but part of the problem is Lakip's kicking style. He can boom it far but they are always low line drives, so the margin for error is smaller if for some reason it comes up a little short.
With less hang time, the ball gets to the returner a lot faster, and they have a chance to get blocks set and get a good return. Point being that Lakip kicking long is not a sure thing at all...
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [103088]
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Yep,
Nov 1, 2015, 8:00 AM
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if we ever meet a team than can run back the kickoff every time we kick the ball off we're just gonna be screwed. At that point we'll have to start onsides kicking every time we score.
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National Champion [8084]
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If u really tried could you perfect the onsides
Nov 1, 2015, 8:31 AM
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Kick and just do it every time? Aren't the stats that about half of those are recovered by kick team? Seems like practicing it you could push stats up to 75 %. That would freak out the receiving team and make them spend a ton of time practicing for it.
Then after getting good at it, you sometimes don't do it just to keep them honest.
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110%er [6101]
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By "bite us" you mean to say...
Nov 1, 2015, 8:36 AM
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..we're going to lose a close game we could have won had it not been for a special teams blunder.
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