Re: On side kick was illegal: Here's the Rule

Felix2 · 2016-01-12T05:59:14.296Z

Article 3a, No Team A player may touch a free-kicked ball until after : "3. It touches any player, the ground, an offical or ANYTHING beyond Team B's restraining line." As we were penalized earlier in the season for an onside kick where the opposing team did not have a chance to catch it and it had not "touched" anything. That's what Dabo was screaming about. The receiving team MUST have a chance at the ball first. See rule 3a.3 above. They kicked the ball to themselves. It didn't touch anything. Our players did not have a CHANCE to catch it and it did not TOUCH anything beyond the restraining line except the receiving Alabama player. They called it against us before, the Pac 12 officials missed it.

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Jan 12, 2016, 2:39 PM

If people really want to understand the issue, it comes into the fact that no one was in the spot the ball was kicked to, regretfully. Something from what I am reading Bama noticed in film study, when they payed attention to how tight our players line up at the line on a kick, as well as how Kearse starts running instead of waiting to see where the ball is kicked. And if you notice, that's how it exactly happened....everyone on the inside, Kearse having to backpedal to try to get to where the Bama player went.

1) It was a free kick, and it was kicked directly up in the air off the stand.
2) Rule 6, section 4 states:
ARTICLE 1.
a. A player of the receiving team within the boundary lines attempting to catch a kick, and so located that he could have caught a free kick or a scrimmage kick that is beyond the neutral zone, must be given an unimpeded opportunity to catch the kick (A.R. 6-3-1-III, A.R. 6-4-1-V, VI and IX).

b. It is an interference foul if, before the receiver touches the ball, a Team A player enters the area defined by the width of the receiver’s shoulders and extending one yard in front of him. When in question it is a foul.(A.R.6-4-1-X-XIII)

c. This protection terminates when the kick touches the ground (Exception: Free kick, par. f below), when any player of Team B muffs or touches a scrimmage kick beyond the neutral zone, or when any player of Team B muffs or touches a free kick in the field of play or in the end zone (Exception: Rule 6-5-1-b) (A.R. 6-4-1-IV).

3) Per section a of article 1, the player must be located so that he could have caught the free kick that is beyond the neutral zone. Since Kearse (who was the closest) nor any other player was located where they could have caught the free kick, there is no situation to cause for the player to have to be unimpeded for a catch (i.e. we needed a player to be standing there). Thus it becomes a live ball after it cross that 10 yard mark.

The only issue I question is are they allowed to direct catch in that case, or should it have had to hit the ground first, per section c? Or does that rule also get negated by not having a player in that spot?

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NCAA (2014)
Rule 6 Section 4 Opportunity To Catch a Kick

Interference With Opportunity

ARTICLE 1. a. A player of the receiving team within the boundary lines attempting to catch a kick, and so located that he could have caught a free kick or a scrimmage kick that is beyond the neutral zone, must be given an unimpeded opportunity to catch the kick (A.R. 6-3-1-III, A.R. 6-4-1-V, VI and IX).

b. It is an interference foul if, before the receiver touches the ball, a Team A player enters the area defined by the width of the receiver’s shoulders and extending one yard in front of him. When in question it is a foul.(A.R.6-4-1-X-XIII)

c. This protection terminates when the kick touches the ground (Exception: Free kick, par. f below), when any player of Team B muffs or touches a scrimmage kick beyond the neutral zone, or when any player of Team B muffs or touches a free kick in the field of play or in the end zone (Exception: Rule 6-5-1-b) (A.R. 6-4-1-IV).

Bolded area is the difference between the two, and the reason it was legal in the National Championship. Clemson didn't have a guy there, thus no one to say was impeded against....SCar did have a player there, that even called fair catch. So it was called correctly by rule in both games. Simple as that.

On side kick was illegal: Here's the Rule

it hit the ground, bubba***

No it didnt.... bubba******

Re: Yep***

Re: Yep***

Just watched it....

you left off the .... bubba.***

Rewinded it and watched it again....

Ooooh you just dabbed on him***

Same play we got flagged on in the USuC game last year.

yeah, i finally rewatched it, you are correct***

do know I still think we should have been ready for it

Re: do know I still think we should have been ready for it

so you don't think Kiffen called plays that exposed our....

Re: so you don't think Kiffen called plays that exposed our....

maybe if franc used the magic word?***

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Re: do know I still think we should have been ready for it

Hey Bubba it did not hit the ground period...***

no it was straight in the air bubba***

Re: it hit the ground, bubba***

No - did not hit ground***

Re: it hit the ground, bubba***

Is the restraining line the 10yards?

Re: Is the restraining line the 10yards?

only if th player calls for a fair catch***