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Re: Fascism
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Jun 12, 2025, 3:32 PM
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It isn't fascism to remove an someone who shows up at a press conference unannounced and charges the stage acting like a crazy person. Its too bad Democrats seem compelled to act insane in order to get cheap photo ops they can then show their brain dead voters but it seems to have worked on you so here we are.
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Speaking of braindead voters.....***
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"and charges the stage acting like a crazy person" - what?***
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It helps your argument tremendously if you completely fabricate scenarios.
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Jun 12, 2025, 3:38 PM
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Kind of like Trump and FOX News are doing in California.
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To be fair, NCTIgerFan23 has a massive habit of that.
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Jun 12, 2025, 3:40 PM
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Tiger Titan [49128]
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He did none of those things
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Jun 12, 2025, 3:56 PM
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Obviously you're listening to Noem's lies and not watching the video. He identified himself and was accosted the moment he started talking.
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Re: He did none of those things
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Jun 12, 2025, 7:52 PM
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He did not identify himself lol. I watched the video.
He charged the podium acting like a crazy person. Secret Service thought he was going to attack Kristi. So they removed him and briefly detained him until he identified himself lol.
Then he and Kristi had a conversation and exchanged numbers.
Do better Cata.
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Re: He did none of those things
Jun 12, 2025, 9:04 PM
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Effing fantasy, you effing moron.
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Re: Fascism
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You got a link to that?
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A sitting US Senator. At a press conference in his own state,
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Jun 12, 2025, 3:33 PM
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asking the DHS Secretary about what's happening in his state.
It took Hitler 59 days from when he was appointed Chancellor to completely uproot and nullify the German Constitution. 59 days. Using fabricated calamities to declare emergency power, and dubious laws to allow violation of individual rights in favor of the State's rights.
What say you, KeoweeIndians®? ClemsonRangers®? CaptCrash? Defend this. And see if you can do it without sounding like a 1933 Nazi.
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Re: A sitting US Senator. At a press conference in his own state,
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Jun 12, 2025, 3:44 PM
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You're kidding, right? They fantasize about asking people for their papers.
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Ehhh...I have to say, this is intentionally creating a scene.
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Being a U.S. Senator from a state doesn't give you the right to crash any press conference being conducted in that state. If he WASN'T a U.S. Senator and just started taking over the press conference, he would be escorted out. If he resisted (as he clearly did), they would do so forcibly. I don't see this playing out any differently if, for example, Ted Cruz crashed Alejandro Mayorka's press conference in Texas spouting off questions looking to make a scene. Or at least I wouldn't blame them if they did the same thing. You are not given free rein to take over a federal cabinet member's press conference to grandstand. And to imply that that's the only way he can "get answers" seems a bit disingenuous for a U.S. Senator.
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With regards to your last statement, I'd agree, with literally any previous
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Jun 12, 2025, 4:13 PM
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administration, including Trump's first term. With this one? It's suddenly not farfetched at all that a Senator wouldn't get answers to something that Trump and DHS don't feel they have to answer for.
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Paw Master [16813]
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Kristi Noem testified in front of the Senate twice in May of this year alone.
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Jun 12, 2025, 5:00 PM
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Certainly it's possible that this particular Senator is getting stone walled. But I'm skeptical.
Here's his commentary afterward.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E4fd2ozHlw
And here's the event (around the 6:10 mark is when he starts).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhWVxZF6J9s
I would argue that his portrayal of the instance is disingenuous. She was not taking questions. She was giving a prepared remark. You see journalists sitting down listening...if they interrupted her to start asking questions, what would have happened? And they were, presumably, invited. You can't let other people control your press conference. Especially not to grandstand.
And notice that he doesn't speak to what questions he had or how he tried to get them answered in his remarks...because that didn't really matter. What mattered was the grandstanding. As much as I hate this administration, I also hate our state of political theater even worse. Everyone get your noses down and get your jobs done. I am not interested in their political theater.
It will be interesting to see if Noem comes back and asks for evidence that their questions are not being answered, or that they have tried through any formal process to get information from her group. It won't matter because we, as Americans, rally around our "team". But my guess is that he's overstating their frustrations.
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Oh...and let's all put our chips down on this point...if you think this is
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Jun 12, 2025, 5:04 PM
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"fascism", then you won't object to Republicans interrupting Democrat leadership in the middle of their press conference to ask questions. Unless you're fascist, you'll stop your press conference and let the opposition party dictate what is discussed and when you'll be taking questions, and what those questions will be.
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Re: Oh...and let's all put our chips down on this point...if you think this is
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And this wasn't a mere interruption. This was a guy barging in unannounced and uninvited, moving aggressively towards the stage shouting down the speaker. He's lucky he didn't get a slug between the eyes since he's obviously too dense to understand basic human protocol in these types of situations.
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Post-incident comments from Noem on X:
Jun 13, 2025, 9:38 AM
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So...according to her at least...they chatted for 15 minutes after the incident. And once again, I have seen no evidence that Senator Padilla made any attempt to engage with her office prior to his public display. ALL evidence, in my opinion, points to his actions being a political stunt. I don't say that as a "gotcha" on Democrats...both parties have members who pull stunts like this, but it doesn't mean that we as the public should play into them, regardless of our opinion of Kristi Noem or the administration's policies. Nonsense is nonsense. We should demand action. Do the work that we elected you to do.
https://x.com/Sec_Noem/status/1933267265849278591
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Your knowledge of history appears to be only surpassed by
Jun 13, 2025, 1:05 AM
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Trump himself. Nice work, I guess?
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man...I'm not so sure about this one...
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Jun 12, 2025, 3:49 PM
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she was giving a statement to the press and he walked up interrupting her and talking over her. I haven't been able to find great video of the entire sequence, but he seemed to be trying to push through/by security. If I'm seeing that correctly, it doesn't matter if he's a Senator or not, in my opinion. And he didn't seem to want to back down when security started to push him back.
It seemed more like he wanted to get kicked out, but hard to say for sure.
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Re: man...I'm not so sure about this one...
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Jun 12, 2025, 3:56 PM
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Exactly. He might have been belligerent. I need more info. She is awful, as is the administration, but that video doesn't show enough.
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He identified himself before asking his question.***
Jun 12, 2025, 3:59 PM
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Re: He identified himself before asking his question.***
Jun 12, 2025, 4:02 PM
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I gave you a TU, but being a senator doesnt.give him the right to get out of control anywhere he wants. It wasn't like he was on the floor of Congress. I would have to know more.
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Okay, let's at least address this
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Jun 12, 2025, 4:24 PM
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So even if he was out of line at the presser, once they had removed him from the room, there was no need to throw him on the ground and cuff him. They knew he was a senator at that point; simply removing him from the room would have sufficed.
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Maybe, maybe not...I would like to see more about what led up to that...
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Jun 12, 2025, 4:26 PM
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he didn't seem to be respecting the direction from law enforcement from the limited footage I watched.
He could have been warned before as well. Need to know more...and we may find you're exactly right.
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He's a senator in his state
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Jun 12, 2025, 3:58 PM
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He has far more authority to raise issues than Kristi Noem does; her office had been refusing to respond to his office.
DHS has always been government waste and this bimbo thinks she doesn't have to be held accountable by Congress.
IMO, Newsome should send in state police to arrest those agents for assaulting a U.S. senator.
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Re: He's a senator in his state
Jun 12, 2025, 4:00 PM
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That senator might have been out of control though. Who knows?
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He has every right to be
Jun 12, 2025, 4:01 PM
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He identified himself and had a right to speak up. In his own state. In what universe is it okay for the DHS secretary and FBI goons to treat a senator who speaks up like that?
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Re: He has every right to be
Jun 12, 2025, 4:04 PM
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I am not sure how he was going about it. He might have been out of control.
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He got out his name and barely the first part of the question...
Jun 12, 2025, 4:08 PM
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Before he was grabbed.
Keep in mind this is a federal building and he had been cleared to be in there.
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Re: He got out his name and barely the first part of the question...
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It's definitely a situation where I want to take his side, but I truly don't know enough. I would like to see from earlier on.
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imagine if he did this
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Dubya's reaction was classic : - )***
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DHS and ICE were giving statements to the press...
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Jun 12, 2025, 4:21 PM
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I think she's a cluster-eff too, but that doesn't mean she's not allowed to give a statement without someone forcibly interrupting. If he wants to talk to her, wait until she's done speaking at the podium.
How the situation was handled shouldn't depend on what one thinks about the parties involved.
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How about throwing him on the ground and cuffing after the was removed?***
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Re: How about throwing him on the ground and cuffing after the was removed?***
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That seemed unnecessary for sure.
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Clemson Conqueror [11518]
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Dude shoulda waited. The wife said the Senator walked in through the side door
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and just started talking. He was obviously grandstanding. Our representatives are all behaving like children. IF they knew who he was - there was no reason to cuff him.
Would she have SS protection? Can anyone just walk in? I would think they had to know who he was for him to have gotten that close...
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Re: He's a senator in his state
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REALLY? Calling her a bimbo is totally inappropriate.
(S)kank is more appropriate. 😆
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Re: He's a senator in his state
Jun 12, 2025, 9:11 PM
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She's f*cking trash. Hell-bound just like DJT and the rest of his clown show.
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Re: He's a senator in his state
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So we can add woman hater to your list of mental health issues. Do you typically refer to women as bimbos or is thst just something your weirdo online persona does when seeking acceptance from other message board strangers.
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Re: He's a senator in his state
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Re: He's a senator in his state
Jun 13, 2025, 7:59 AM
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Why are you holding Cat to a higher standard than POTUS? 😆
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He was in the back of the room. Zero threat to her.
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No excuses for removing him, putting him on the ground and detaining him.
For Gods sake man, stand up for your country.
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he wasn't in the back of the room from what I saw...he was beside and in front..
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Jun 12, 2025, 4:28 PM
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of the camera line. And as said above, we don't know what instructions he had been given by FBI/security prior to that.
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ask yourself
Jun 12, 2025, 4:33 PM
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is it normal for FBI agents to attend a DHS press conference in a secured government building?
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Re: ask yourself
Jun 12, 2025, 4:38 PM
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The do help the secret service at times, so maybe?
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Re: ask yourself
Jun 12, 2025, 4:42 PM
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the answer is no, the two men who pushed him out were Secret Service. That is not common either.
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Re: ask yourself
Jun 12, 2025, 9:13 PM
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She had secret service with her when that guy took her purse and drug stash in Washington.
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I asked myself...
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and myself doesn't know. Doesn't seem abnormal, especially in light of what's going on in LA right now. I can imagine security has been heightened.
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Re: I asked myself...
Jun 12, 2025, 5:02 PM
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Exactly. It seems normal and needed.
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He was in the back of the room by the door. Thats
Jun 12, 2025, 4:57 PM
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why it took absolutely no time for them to shove him through it and take him to the ground in the hallway. He was absolutely no threat to her. If someone is threatening you do that. Someone asking a question, no sir, especially not a US Senator.
It’s such a stupid escalation when the NG and marines don’t even need to be there in the first place. You need to quit making excuses for this garbage administration.
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Don't matter - but he definitely was not in the back of the room. He was
Jun 12, 2025, 5:19 PM
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standing to her left, even with the first rows of chairs in the conference room. They actually pushed him a good way to get him to the door. He was 4-5 feet in front of the closest TV camera, but off to the side.
I would post a screen shot if I knew how to post a screen shot 
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I'm not making excuses for anyone...
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I'm calling it like I see it and he wasn't in the back of the room behind the cameras.
As I've said above...I would like to know more before firming an opinion. But I see a guy trying to push up to the front of the room and then resisting and continuing to push on agents as they're trying to remove him. Would like to know if anything was said between him and security before this.
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Re: I'm not making excuses for anyone...
Jun 12, 2025, 9:44 PM
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as it turns out, the building turns out to be a FBI field office, among other things, so my bad.
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This country is being run by garbage people and being cheered on by
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human excrement.
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Re: This country is being run by garbage people and being cheered on by
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True.
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I don't politic any more...I'm tired of it...
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but gotta say the dude made it a long way if no one knew who he was.
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So, Biden could have had MTG and Boebert thrown to the ground, cuffed and
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removed for their forceful demonstrations at his State of the Union address?
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Re: So, Biden could have had MTG and Boebert thrown to the ground, cuffed and
Jun 12, 2025, 4:35 PM
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Maybe the floor of Congress is different. Probably matters where one wants to get out of control and how out of control.
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That makes no sense whatsoever.***
Jun 12, 2025, 4:36 PM
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Re: That makes no sense whatsoever.***
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It pretty much does. It makes complete sense. Its common sense.
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Remember the guy that interrupted Trumps first address to Congress? I wondered
Jun 12, 2025, 4:42 PM
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what would have happened if he didn't leave when confronted.
Same with MTG and Boebert - they were being very obnoxious, but not completely interrupting. But, what if they had? I would think all three would have been forcibly removed.
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Ring of Honor [22512]
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Quite simply there was no need for continued use of force outside the the room
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Jun 12, 2025, 4:36 PM
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And then force to the ground, handcuff and arrest. There was no imminent threat of harm. This is an example of excessive use of force by LE.
Most posters on this Board have seen bouncers in bars show more maturity, greater use of discretion to de-escalate situations.
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Athletic Dir [1137]
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Re: Quite simply there was no need for continued use of force outside the the room
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Jun 12, 2025, 4:54 PM
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That's the part that seemed excessive to me.
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Paw Master [16474]
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My 2 pennies
Jun 12, 2025, 5:01 PM
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The video that I saw is definitely not a good look. I would think Noem would have stopped the manhandling of Padilla if she could see him?
Did she see what was going on clearly? If so and she didn't halt Padilla being forced out of the room, that is unacceptable. Noem should be able to take a question from a Senator even if he interrupted her briefly. She would not have to accept a complete hijacking of her event, but that does not appear to be what Padilla was doing.
Padilla was not in the typical uni of a U.S. Senator, and it is possible LE did not know who he was or didn't believe him when he said he is a Senator?
Once he was escorted out of the room, it was overkill to have him on the ground and cuffed. Again, did LE know who he was? If they knew who he was, they should be put on administrative leave if not fired.
One thing is for sure, if there is not video before what I just viewed showing Padilla acting out?, Padilla is owed an apology from Noem and Trump.
Again, this one minute plus video is a very bad look, but I don't have all the facts.
I would like Noem to be asked if she saw what was happening. At least Noem didn't treat Padilla like her dog Cricket.
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Re: Fascism
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Jun 12, 2025, 5:13 PM
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Gonna be a lot of whining about fascism over the weekend as states and cities attempt to prevent getting destroyed by violent Democrats who think they are above the law. Newsflash morons, it isn't fascism to not let lawless Democrats do whatever the #### they want to the rest of us. I know this won't prevent a dozen threads by the usual idiots decrying the govt having the audacity not to let them burn, loot and kill with impunity but such is life in a civilized (not fascist) society. Grow up.
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Paw Master [17045]
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Good god man.
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Jun 12, 2025, 5:58 PM
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Liberals act like idiots; get removed, and y’all cry FAscIsM!!!
Gd morons.
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when was the last time a sitting US Senator was detained in a federal building
Jun 12, 2025, 6:10 PM
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I will hang up and listen.
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Paw Master [17045]
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Idk, the last time one went full ####??***
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Jun 12, 2025, 6:14 PM
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TigerNet HOFer [122066]
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like the time
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Jun 12, 2025, 6:18 PM
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Markwayne Mullin (R‑OK). Challenged Teamsters President Sean O’Brien to a fistfight in 2023 on the Senate floor? Was he detained?
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Head Coach [935]
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Challenged? I have a challenge question for ya.
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Jun 12, 2025, 6:46 PM
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Why is it that 99% of the time when a member of the senate, or the house is in public show their a--, that person(s) is a Democrat. Riddle me that.
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You tried
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