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Clemson Icon [24064]
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GOD's Image & Likeness
Dec 21, 2022, 2:39 PM
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is what Dabo said his program was built on. Guess you NIL Portal Types need not let the door hit you in your FA on the way out.
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Orange Phenom [14155]
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What does that have to do with the portal?***
Dec 21, 2022, 2:42 PM
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Rival Killer [2879]
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Everything, actually
Dec 21, 2022, 2:50 PM
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Dabo isn't going to follow the pack.
He's going to lead the pack...by letting God determine the values of this program, not Nike, boosters, or TNET.
It determines who and why we sign and how he runs the program.
If you ask Dabo, it has everything to do with the portal. "That's not us."
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Freshman [-65]
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Re: Everything, actually
Dec 21, 2022, 10:31 PM
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Time for a new coach----tired of this non-sense---inapproriate
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National Champion [8003]
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Bye bye, I for one LOVE it. Coach has some balls!***
Dec 21, 2022, 10:44 PM
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Asst Coach [822]
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I Loved Dabo’s NSD presser yesterday = EVERY WORD OF IT.
Dec 22, 2022, 9:16 AM
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Seems the public mention of God bothers a few people these days, but not me.
The opposite: it inspires me.
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Game Changer [1977]
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Re: GOD's Image & Likeness
Dec 21, 2022, 2:49 PM
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Painfully cringeworthy
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Clemson Icon [24894]
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Matthew 10:33
Dec 21, 2022, 2:59 PM
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But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
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Dynasty Maker [3585]
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Re: Matthew 10:33
Dec 21, 2022, 3:04 PM
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Matthew 6:5-6
And when you pray, you shall not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward. But you, when you pray, go into your room, and when you have shut your door, pray to your Father who is in the secret place; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you openly.
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Ring of Honor [22714]
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Re: Matthew 10:33
Dec 21, 2022, 3:32 PM
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Big Dog, I think you may have landed where I am on this one. I am a Christian and I appreciate a faith-based coach building the foundation of a faith-based program. I just get a little concerned that somehow it gets presented like it is some sort of competitive advantage when there are plenty of other faith-based coaches and programs out there operating the same way and all enjoy God's love and blessings.
I know this is a touchy subject but I just want to see us put our faith in the best light and recognize that God loves all his children and does not want to lose even one. Football is what people do, it is not who they are...
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Ring of Honor [22714]
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Re: Matthew 10:33
Dec 21, 2022, 4:36 PM
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Having just watched it is different now for me than just reading about it. Seeing him say the words came across as sincere and not flippant. I didn't get the same sense seeing it that I did reading about it so I won't question the sincerity of it any longer.
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Legend [6832]
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Re: Matthew 10:33
Dec 21, 2022, 8:58 PM
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That is only in your head.
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National Champion [8003]
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I think ur over thinking it… Dabo just speaks off the
Dec 21, 2022, 10:48 PM
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Cuff. He ain’t really concerned with how to frame it perfectly or the marketing of it. He just speaks from his convictions.
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All-TigerNet [5706]
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The words of Jesus Christ:
Dec 21, 2022, 5:08 PM
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“You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hidden. Nor do people light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on a stand, and it gives light to all in the house. In the same way, let your light shine before others, so that they may see your good works and give glory to your Father who is in heaven.”
Matthew 5:14-16
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Re: Matthew 10:33
Dec 21, 2022, 9:19 PM
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“Man who fart in church sit in own pew.”
- Confucius
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Game Changer [1977]
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Re: Matthew 10:33
Dec 21, 2022, 3:10 PM
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Cool. Your scripture means nothing to me.
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Rival Killer [2879]
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That's cool bro
Dec 21, 2022, 3:11 PM
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But it means a lot to God...and Dabo.
Since it's Dabo's press conference -- and not yours -- I'm pretty sure it's relevant.
Your opinion? Not so much.
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Game Changer [1977]
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Re: That's cool bro
Dec 21, 2022, 3:15 PM
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Lol it's not just my opinion. It's the larger sports world's opinion. Believe it or not that does matter.
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CU Medallion [18163]
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Re: That's cool bro
Dec 21, 2022, 3:26 PM
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Lol it's not just my opinion. It's the larger sports world's opinion. Believe it or not that does matter.
Does it make it right?
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Rival Killer [2879]
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How dare you question the masses!
Dec 21, 2022, 3:33 PM
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I 100% agree with your question.
People who don't share Dabo's faith will never truly understand him. They may like the fact that he wins, but they won't understand that he doesn't really care what the masses think.
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Re: That's cool bro
Dec 21, 2022, 3:36 PM
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Lol it's not just my opinion. It's the larger sports world's opinion. Believe it or not that does matter.
How so? You know what Chappelle said about being drug on twitter? Said he did not GAF as it’s not a real place
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All-American [573]
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Re: That's cool bro
Dec 21, 2022, 4:23 PM
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The "World's opinion" doesn't mean anything to GOD! Only HIS opinion counts!
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National Champion [8003]
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Ooooohhhh then we must do what the greater sports world
Dec 21, 2022, 10:50 PM
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Would want us to… sawft.
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Dynasty Maker [3585]
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Re: That's cool bro
Dec 21, 2022, 3:16 PM
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I’m not even sure what his comments even mean. Do you?
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Game Changer [1605]
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Re: Matthew 10:33
Dec 21, 2022, 3:18 PM
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It means a lot to me and I will pray for you tigerfan22334.
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Game Day Hero [4573]
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Re: Matthew 10:33
Dec 21, 2022, 5:05 PM
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Oh, but it will one day...remember, you heard it here. Sorry for you.
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Athletic Dir [1149]
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Cade 20:23
Dec 21, 2022, 3:11 PM
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Let's go!!
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Clemson Icon [24210]
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Not scared. Good luck.***
Dec 21, 2022, 3:25 PM
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Game Day Hero [4573]
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Re: Not scared. Good luck.***
Dec 21, 2022, 5:09 PM
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Yikes
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Rival Killer [2958]
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As OP said don't let the door hit you in the backside
Dec 21, 2022, 3:08 PM
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on the way out.
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National Champion [8003]
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110%er [3625]
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Re: GOD's Image & Likeness
Dec 21, 2022, 3:04 PM
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Dynasty Maker [3585]
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Re: GOD's Image & Likeness
Dec 21, 2022, 3:05 PM
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God only wants Dabo to make money?
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Rival Killer [2879]
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He'll get roasted for it, but I'm certain he doesn't care
Dec 21, 2022, 3:05 PM
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Seems like Jesus took some flack too, if I remember correctly.
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Offensive Star [304]
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Roman's 1:16
Dec 21, 2022, 3:10 PM
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For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ:for it is the power of God unto salvation for those who believe
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Game Changer [1755]
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Rival Killer [2879]
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Well, since He owns everything, no
Dec 21, 2022, 3:34 PM
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But nice red herring nonetheless.
Your bias is showing.
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Game Changer [1755]
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Jesus was actually a poor carpenter.
Dec 21, 2022, 4:11 PM
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And I’m not biased the other way. I’m a lifelong born again Christian. Just tell me what part about him cashing out such a high salary here on this temporary earth is in Gods likeness?
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Rival Killer [2879]
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Would you have Dabo not take a raise?
Dec 21, 2022, 4:20 PM
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I'm not trying to be smart, but what would you have him do differently?
Do you have any idea how much he gives away? You'd be very pleasantly surprised if you did. It's WAY way way more than 10%. The average American churchgoer gives a little over 3%.
So, what exactly is your criticism?
I think it's safe to say that Jesus was unique. That's sort of the point isn't it? His followers were very rich (Matthew, Zacchaeus, Joseph of Arimathea) and beggars -- and everything in between.
They still are.
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Ring of Honor [22313]
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Ring of Honor [22313]
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With it is***
Dec 21, 2022, 8:56 PM
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Ring of Honor [22313]
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What matters to God
Dec 21, 2022, 8:57 PM
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is he giving God the glory? Using it to help others? Being a good steward? Money isn't evil, the love of it is
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Freshman [-96]
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Re: GOD's Image & Likeness
Dec 21, 2022, 3:11 PM
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Yea well that comment is getting Dabo and Clemson laughed off the internet. I have no problem with it but it makes him look weird and corny. I hope his way works, or at least I hope the powers that be will make changes to all the craziness because Dabo ain’t budging.
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Rival Killer [2879]
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Jesus was murdered and said to expect the same
Dec 21, 2022, 3:15 PM
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It may embarrass the [earthly] powers that be. But the Power that is says, "Well done."
If you read what the recruits said (including Cade), faith is a HUGE part of why they come here.
Flame Dabo if you want. Recruits seem to be attracted to something besides $$.
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Dynasty Maker [3585]
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Re: Jesus was murdered and said to expect the same
Dec 21, 2022, 3:19 PM
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I genuinely have the confuse…
Is it a sin to accept an NIL deal?
Why is god proud of his statement?
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Rival Killer [2879]
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I believe you're confused b/c you want to be
Dec 21, 2022, 3:24 PM
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No sense attempting reasoning with such people.
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Game Changer [1605]
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Top TigerNet [30064]
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Yeah the comment makes him look preachy
Dec 21, 2022, 3:19 PM
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And not in a positive way.
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Ring of Honor [22313]
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He's baptized players at practice and had the
Dec 21, 2022, 9:18 PM
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anti-religion groups after him since he started.
Has it hurt the program?
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National Champion [8003]
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All-TigerNet [5691]
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You know what else is getting laughed at?
Dec 21, 2022, 9:04 PM
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The state of your football program. Have fun losing your entire team to the portal, coot.
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National Champion [8003]
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But see Dabo ain’t concerned about the same petty stuff that worries you
Dec 21, 2022, 10:54 PM
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You care about what an internet troll thinks. Dabo doesn’t. Which means he ain’t scared. It’s awesome!
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110%er [3907]
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Re: GOD's Image & Likeness
Dec 21, 2022, 3:13 PM
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Is there no one in the portal who adequately meets Dabo's standards for reflecting God's image and likeness?
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Heisman Winner [79999]
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Yea, the Alabama QB that just committed...
Dec 21, 2022, 3:16 PM
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HTH, #######.
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110%er [3907]
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Re: Yea, the Alabama QB that just committed...
Dec 21, 2022, 3:20 PM
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HTH, #######.
And a Merry Christmas to you too.
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Heisman Winner [79999]
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You get back what you put out there.***
Dec 21, 2022, 3:31 PM
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110%er [3907]
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Re: You get back what you put out there.***
Dec 21, 2022, 3:38 PM
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With that as your standard...dig deep here and wish your old pal AFDAWG a Merry Christmas.
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Heisman Winner [79999]
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Re: You get back what you put out there.***
Dec 21, 2022, 4:34 PM
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Game Changer [1605]
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Re: GOD's Image & Likeness
Dec 21, 2022, 3:23 PM
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It is not Dabo's AFDAWG!
Matthew 11:15
He who has ears to hear,let him hear.
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Re: GOD's Image & Likeness
Dec 21, 2022, 3:27 PM
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There are still people that have intelligence, character and integrity and Dabo and Clemson appeals to them. I pray our nation never runs out of those people or we are doomed. I get many will say Dabo makes $10 million a year and doesn't fit that mold, but I suspect Dabo does more good in 1 year than most coaches do in 10.
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Game Day Hero [4554]
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Go Dabo - U DA MAN***
Dec 21, 2022, 3:51 PM
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Re: GOD's Image & Likeness
Dec 21, 2022, 4:13 PM
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Valleyboy,
Does one have to be a christian to have intelligence, character. and integrity ??
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Paw Warrior [4755]
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Re: GOD's Image & Likeness
Dec 21, 2022, 4:08 PM
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All of you guys who are cheering Dabo and his god - how would you feel about a college football coach using his position of authority to promote his religion if his god was not your god - if he was saying that he built Clemson's program in Allah's image.
As an employee of the state government, Dabo has a moral obligation to keep his personal religious beliefs out of his professional persona. I am not saying that he can't be a devout christian, but he cannot promote his religion through his job. The separation of church and state was one of the driving forces in our Founders minds when the country was born.
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Top TigerNet [29999]
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That interpretation is so wrong on so many levels.
Dec 21, 2022, 4:19 PM
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****
As an employee of the state government, Dabo has a moral obligation to keep his personal religious beliefs out of his professional persona. I am not saying that he can't be a devout christian, but he cannot promote his religion through his job. The separation of church and state was one of the driving forces in our Founders minds when the country was born.
*****
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Ring of Honor [22313]
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Working for the state does not limit one's
Dec 21, 2022, 10:29 PM
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freedom of religion. It's the first ammendment. It can be practiced anywhere, including the government.
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Legend [6705]
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Re: GOD's Image & Likeness
Dec 21, 2022, 4:25 PM
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Anyone that has followed Dabo since getting the position of head coach knows where he stands. I really like that about him. It’s not going to change because it is who he is.
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Rival Killer [2939]
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Re: GOD's Image & Likeness
Dec 21, 2022, 4:37 PM
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As an employee of the state government, Dabo has a moral obligation to keep his personal religious beliefs out of his professional persona. I am not saying that he can't be a devout christian, but he cannot promote his religion through his job. The separation of church and state was one of the driving forces in our Founders minds when the country was born.
You couldn't be more wrong. The only mention of separation of church and state occurs in Jefferson's correspondence and opinion. The First Amendment ONLY says that Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion. That means:
* the government will not create an official state religion (as England had, and has)
* the government will not interfere in your right to worship
* the first ten amendments limit GOVERNMENT, not citizens
Dabo has every right to talk religion as much as he wants, or to not mention religion at all. Whether his checks are printed on stock that says Clemson University or if he works for Michelin, he has the right to proclaim his faith as long as it harms no one else and he doesn't spend his time on his job doing non-job things.
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Rival Killer [2879]
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Don't confuse him with the facts...
Dec 21, 2022, 4:57 PM
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They don't fit the [false] narrative and historical revisionism.
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Ring of Honor [22313]
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He has that right
Dec 21, 2022, 9:23 PM
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just as Dabo does. So why complain about Dabo?
BTW, Dabo has had Muslims, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnessess and those who believe in nothing at all choose to play for him. He's open and bold about his faith, and people respect thst genuiness
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Varsity [104]
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Re: GOD's Image & Likeness
Dec 21, 2022, 10:20 PM
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Tobias, WRONG!
1st Amendment
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, OR PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
Congress nor any state government cannot prohibite Dabo, nor me for that matter, from free exercise of my religion.
As it says in the Declaration of Independence "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
My rights come from God (big G), not the state.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [102421]
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You don't believe atheism is faith based?
Dec 22, 2022, 5:01 AM
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You should post in the Religion and Philosophy forum.
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Top TigerNet [29999]
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I'm listening to his presser now.
Dec 21, 2022, 4:14 PM
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That quote will be misunderstood by many. Some will interpret it as a cute little soundbite by an unscrupulous salesman.
But, there is no doubt in my mind it was totally off the cuff. He was asked about NIL and how it affected recruiting. He gave a clear and rational explanation of how Clemson had built a foundation even before there was an NIL and how they had built on that foundation so that they can help students who want to earn money while in college. His quote that you alluded to, (paraphrased) "We've built this program on NIL. We are all created in God's name, image, and likeness. That's what we've built this program on and that's what we will continue to build it on." It was just a comment from the heart from a man who knows what he believes and lives what he believes."
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Orange Elite [5361]
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Re: I'm listening to his presser now.
Dec 21, 2022, 4:34 PM
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Well, Dabo certainly brought me closer to the Lord - I prayed all year .. he’d start Cade.
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Paw Warrior [4755]
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Re: I'm listening to his presser now.
Dec 21, 2022, 7:23 PM
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I wonder how all of y'all would feel if Dabo's god didn't match up with your god - if Dabo's god was allah
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Rival Killer [2879]
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You're right
Dec 21, 2022, 10:41 PM
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It would be a very different discussion since THE central tenet of Christianity is a god who lays down his life for his enemies.
And one of the central aims of Islam is to destroy its enemies.
You're right. Very different conversation.
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Paw Warrior [4755]
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Re: You're right
Dec 22, 2022, 12:37 PM
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sga
Deuteronomy 28:7 KJV
The Lord shall cause thine enemies that rise up against thee to be smitten before thy face: they shall come out against thee one way, and flee before thee seven ways.
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Orange Blooded [2180]
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Re: GOD's Image & Likeness
Dec 21, 2022, 4:14 PM
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Are there no Christians in the portal?
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All-In [34487]
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cringe***
Dec 21, 2022, 5:10 PM
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OP and Dabo
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Re: GOD's Image & Likeness
Dec 21, 2022, 10:28 PM
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The last I heard Clemson is a State University. Get very tired of this coaches comments. No other employees let alone 11 Mikkion dollar employess should be making these comments. -joke or not
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Ring of Honor [22313]
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You should read the constitution
Dec 21, 2022, 10:32 PM
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start with the first ammendment
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Rival Killer [2879]
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or that whole "endowed by their Creator" part of the
Dec 21, 2022, 10:36 PM
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Declaration of Independence.
Messy stuff that.
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National Champion [8003]
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We’ll then go listen to Beamer Butt and tune Dabo out
Dec 21, 2022, 11:01 PM
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Why do y’all care so much down there in cootlumbia anyway?
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All-TigerNet [5691]
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We live in you coots' heads rent free
Dec 22, 2022, 1:34 AM
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It's amazing how many coot trolls come out of hiding when something like this happens.
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