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TNET: DeAndre Hopkins questions his NFL future after new memo about COVID-19 vaccine

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Jul 22, 2021, 4:11 PM

 
DeAndre Hopkins questions his NFL future after new memo about COVID-19 vaccine

Some massive news being reported on Thursday about the upcoming NFL season. A memo was sent out to all the NFL teams that if a game can not be rescheduled because of a COVID-19 outbreak because of an unvaccinated player, then the team with the outbreak will forfeit and be credited with the loss. "If Read Update »


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lol. putting the dumb in Freedom***

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Jul 22, 2021, 4:28 PM



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Jul 22, 2021, 4:34 PM

NFL guys get paid millions to play, yet they won't take a vaccine?

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Jul 22, 2021, 4:53 PM

I don't agree with everything Nuk says or does but I agree with him on this. If you are vaccinated and you feel like superman now then why are you even worried about being around someone not vaccinated? Not everyone takes a flu shot either. People's ability to see bs really gives me little hope for the future of this country. I am glad your college degrees are working so well.

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Jul 22, 2021, 5:21 PM

"If you are vaccinated and you feel like superman now then why are you even worried about being around someone not vaccinated?"

Vaccines are never 100% effective. They rely on herd immunity to prevent the disease from spreading around. If COVID-19 keeps going it's only going to keep mutating into worse strains.

"Not everyone takes a flu shot either."

The flu isn't killing hundreds of thousands of Americans in a year or leaving survivors with long-term health problems.

"People's ability to see bs really gives me little hope for the future of this country. I am glad your college degrees are working so well."

Our country put men on the moon way back in 1969. Now we have people who don't think vaccines work and believe the earth is flat.

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Unproven and unapproved “vaccine” should never be forced***

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Jul 22, 2021, 6:48 PM



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Jul 22, 2021, 7:10 PM

Nothing is being forced. Stop trying to pretend that it is.

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Jul 22, 2021, 9:32 PM

You can take the man out of Central SC, but you can’t take Central out of the man!

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No, but many politician hacks want it to be.***

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Jul 22, 2021, 10:28 PM



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not forced but your team gets an "L" if you don't take it...

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Jul 23, 2021, 8:19 AM

"oh you don't have to take the vaccine, but you're fired from your job or confined to your house if you didn't take our "voluntary" miracle vaccine." Oh you can keep your doctor but we're going to make it so ungodly expensive if you do... but you have the right to keep him. Gotta love that authoritarian logic.

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Jul 23, 2021, 9:13 AM

Maybe we should start a go fund me for these NFL players that may miss a game so they can eat.

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Re: not forced but your team gets an "L" if you don't take it...


Jul 23, 2021, 11:31 AM

Exactly ??

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Jul 23, 2021, 11:30 AM

Cool ... then they can play without it ??

Perfect!

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Jul 22, 2021, 7:31 PM

Maybe he can leave the NFL and get a job coaching at his alma mater (D W Daniel High School )

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Jul 22, 2021, 6:53 PM

As Mark Twain said, don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

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Jul 22, 2021, 9:33 PM

Pretty sure Mark Twain plagiarized and used one of Dugatiger's quotes, or maybe, not. I have the confused.

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Jul 22, 2021, 6:54 PM

The flu absolutely kills millions of people. They just clumped all in with the covid deaths last year. How many died from flu related illness last year???

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Jul 22, 2021, 7:11 PM

Alternative facts again? Stop spreading misinformation

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Jul 22, 2021, 8:15 PM

Sounds like you think the fella ought to be censored, smsadmin.

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Jul 22, 2021, 9:18 PM

Good for Nuk!!

The government is spreading the misinformation!! How many unvaccinated people you know that never got sick during Covid have got the Delta variant ? 0 All the people I know that are getting the variant are the ones that have been vaccinated or already had Covid. There is BS spewing out of the Biden Administration that it is only unvaccinated people getting sick!! vaccinated person antibodies recognize the virus and attack it harder making the body fight like you have Covid so you test positive and have all the symptoms. The unvaccinated that I know and have had symptoms are all testing negative..But that makes too much sense for people drinking the vaccine cool-aide and pushing it on everyone else. I am not vaccinated and don’t plan on it and have yet to get a sniffle since it started.

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Jul 22, 2021, 9:42 PM

There is much BS spreading out of the "biden administration", period (as he loves to interject). He isn't worthy of a capital b.

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Jul 23, 2021, 9:23 AM

A friend of mine's with just passed last night from it. He also was very much against being vaccinated. He just got back from Alaska. He’s only been in the hospital for about a week. He has a plumbing contracting business. I’m not sure what will happen to his business, family or employees.

I don’t know everything. The government may inflate numbers or whatever, but I do KNOW THAT IT IS REAL. To say otherwise is wrong and dangerous. He was healthy fishing in Alaska about 2 weeks ago.

RIP Nick Stratton

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Jul 23, 2021, 9:49 AM

Sorry to hear about your friend. But no one said the vaccine is not real it definitely is real, but not near as deadly as the numbers are saying because 99.7% of people survive it(Fact) and the vaccine has proven to be ineffective to the variant, just in my little circle of people, so you can imagine the skewed numbers nationally and globally. The point is, people that don't get vaccinated should not be wedge into a corner or have consequences if they don't get the shot, by the government or any business, if they do not want to or have reservations. If all of us that have yet to take it have not done it by now, then you can guarantee we have done our research and not been spoon fed from the CDC(although do look at their data too) or other politically motivated groups.

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Jul 23, 2021, 9:04 AM

no.. he's right... my sister is a nurse practitioner and she said that in a normal year, she alone, prescribes tamaflu for almost all flu cases... hundreds.. i asked her how many prescriptions of tamaflu she prescribed in 2020.... wait for it....... ZERO. NONE. NADA. ZILCH. so, any logical person can tell that either it was all lumped under the same name (covid-19).. or the flu disappeared altogether in 2020... which do YOU think it is?

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Jul 22, 2021, 7:43 PM

Flu did kill a lot of people. But what I would like to know is how many of those that died did not get the flu vaccine?

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Jul 22, 2021, 9:37 PM

It kills millions annually, actually. Not implying that COVID isn't hugely serious, but I do think there are many facts that are being omitted for convenience and used for convenience, as well. Facts are interesting, especially when taken a little at a time and used to one's advantage, when tweaked.

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22,000 CDC estimate***

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Jul 23, 2021, 12:00 AM

And last 6 or 7 years it's been between 30k and 70K.

The vaccine is somewhat like wearing facemasks but where facemasks effected people locally-mostly (not including travelers in the analogy), the vaccine can impact everybody.
The mask is there to protect others-not you
The vaccine is there to protect you
The vaccine is there to protect others including family and even at least a generation or more to come.
This is not going away on it's own. However, it can be minimized like measles which was doing great until people listened to some idiots and did not get their kids vaccinated. Their kids get it-that's fine-your kids-your choice. Do you have the right to give it to someone else's kids? Do you have the right to expose someone else to COVID?

Humanity tends to have a short memory of what the world went through and is still going through. People or friends with long memories-people who had loved ones die, long haulers, debilitating maladies directly related to COVID, health care workers, health care workers who died,
domestic violence, suicide, ruined lives from loss of jobs and businesses and of course of lesser severity the non inflation inflation.

There is a right answer for every point of view. I could easily defend almost anyone's position.
Can people be trusted to do the right thing-like wearing masks when it was crucial? I don't know. It will be debated in history but it will be contested now as is the case with Nuk. There is no one answer to fit all points of view.

I think basically it's like this-are you taking what ever action for yourself, taking it for other people or are you doing both? #### the politicians and the NFL-it is your choice but it may be someone else's consequence.


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Jul 22, 2021, 6:54 PM

The flu absolutely kills millions of people. They just clumped all in with the covid deaths last year. How many died from flu related illness last year???

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Jul 22, 2021, 6:54 PM

The flu absolutely kills millions of people. They just clumped all in with the covid deaths last year. How many died from flu related illness last year???

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Jul 22, 2021, 8:02 PM

Do your homework owensdj. Herd immunity and vaccinations are opposite ends of the spectrum. Sounds like you throw out catch phrases and you assume/expect folks to believe you....., I don't. The flu kills millions--look it up. Covid is a cold--look it up. Just as the flu does, so does covid. It attacks the weaker of us. Uses your shortcomings against you. Can, less than 2% of the time, take a life. I know where you get your info..... It wreaks of lamestream media. Do some real digging.

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Jul 22, 2021, 8:16 PM

The USA had about 38,000 deaths from the flu in 2016-2017. 23K the year before. Where are you getting "millions?" These numbers come from the CDC, not the big bad media that scares you so much.

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Did you seriously just say that COVID is a cold?!?

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Jul 22, 2021, 9:22 PM

It’s too bad that you can’t edit your post, because that would be your best solution.

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Jul 22, 2021, 9:44 PM

100% +1

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Jul 22, 2021, 8:29 PM

Found Juan

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Jul 22, 2021, 9:59 PM

https://youtu.be/5sIWb9GTbbE. This is not a "vaccine". It is concoction which causes gene mutation. Studies in 2012 showed it kills lab rats with bood clots, etc. This is designed for population reduction. Bill Gates admitted years ago he wants lower populations.

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Jul 22, 2021, 9:59 PM

https://youtu.be/5sIWb9GTbbE. This is not a "vaccine". It is concoction which causes gene mutation. Studies in 2012 showed it kills lab rats with bood clots, etc. This is designed for population reduction. Bill Gates admitted years ago he wants lower populations.

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Worse strains?***


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Jul 22, 2021, 11:27 PM

What an ignorant statement!

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This Is the problem .. you like many are misinformef


Jul 23, 2021, 6:37 AM

The vaccine doesnt stop the spread of covid
It doesn't eliminate covid
Yes, thousands of people die from the flu every year.

I don't object to any one who wants to get vaccinated or anyone who doesn't. The most frustrating thing when I read these posts is the misinformation being thrown around.

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Jul 22, 2021, 5:34 PM

I know it’s a matter of opinion, but I’ve lost hope in many that live in this country.

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Jul 23, 2021, 11:28 AM

You're missing the entire point here - it is not about protecting yourself, because God forbid you shouldn't have to do something you don't want to do. It is about protecting everyone and minimizing the amount of virus out there mutating constantly. It is no different than antibiotic resistant microbes or herbicide resistant weeds. Wait long enough and a random mutation WILL happen that breaks through the vaccination barrier. Every person who refuses to get vaccinated because they think they have some God-given right to put everyone else in danger because they believe they are the center of the earth and nothing is more important than what THEY want, simply adds to the probability of success of the virus.

Let's remove all stop signs, traffic lights, seatbelt requirements, and drunk driving laws - after all I should not have to stop at a red light if I think it is important for ME to get somewhere quicker and you can't expect ME to make a drive without at least at least a few cold beers in my lap. C'mon don't we have rights?

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Jul 22, 2021, 5:07 PM

Either you "trust the science" or you don't?

It is an experimental drug. People are.free or they7 are not. I don't believe anyone should be forced to take an experimental drug, which is not a true vaccine, it is a gene therapy.

If everyone else or a majority have chosen to take it, what's the risk to those guys, unless the owners and the NFL don't trust it to really be effective.

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Jul 22, 2021, 7:11 PM

Again, who is forcing this? Stop spreading misinformation.

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Jul 22, 2021, 8:11 PM

No, but it's a lot of pressure with threatening consequences.
*I have had both doses.

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Jul 23, 2021, 1:31 AM

So have I, I had both of the Pfizer vaccine shots in March, and I haven't had any concerning health issues from being vaccinated. We hear all these ghost stories of how harmful the vaccines are, or have been to people they know that has been vaccinated without one shred of proof to back up these ghost stories that's being told. Absolutely nothing to back up what's being said of their negativity that's being said, and it's my opinion that these stories are no more than the sky is falling, the sky is falling stories. Personally, I believe that if someone has the facts about the negativity being spread about the covid vaccine, it would seem that they could provide some kind of evidence of any kind to back what they're saying of how harmful the covid vaccines are other than them just saying that it's true. That is no different than someone saying they ran a hundred yard dash in 8.2 seconds, and spreading that story without a shred of proof, but there would be some that would believe it with their reasoning of why everybody else should believe it!!!!

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Jul 23, 2021, 5:39 PM

You're an idiot. People ha e been posting comments all over social media about friend and familly that have been injured. FB and Youtube pull these posts down. Listen to thes Drs.
https://mypatriotsnetwork.com/patriot/panel-of-medical-doctors-expose-covid-injection-facts-effects-on-others-what-can-be-done-about-it/


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Jul 22, 2021, 8:22 PM

It is being forced to be included. Open your eyes. Turn off cnn and live a little. I can't go to see my sis in Canada..... UN vaccinated. Just watch how your minions go to work on this sms.

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Jul 22, 2021, 7:30 PM

I don't think that it's a matter of they don't trust the vaccine. It's a matter of the one's that are safe, not causing the death of the one's that are not safe, and they're not safe bc they haven't been vaccinated. You don't kill people bc they're not as wise as others!!!


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Jul 23, 2021, 11:30 AM

This is NOT an experimental drug......it was experimental during the clinical trials and PRIOR to emergency authorization. They are NOT the same thing.....

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Jul 23, 2021, 5:35 PM

The Nuremburg Code was put in place so we vant be forced to take this frankenshot. People believe the lie that this is a typical "vaccine". Its not. This crap causes your body to make the spike proteins which reaks havoc on your body. Your immune system becomes compromised. Infertility, blood clots, heart inflamation. Who wants that?!

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Jul 23, 2021, 5:35 PM

The Nuremburg Code was put in place so we vant be forced to take this frankenshot. People believe the lie that this is a typical "vaccine". Its not. This crap causes your body to make the spike proteins which reaks havoc on your body. Your immune system becomes compromised. Infertility, blood clots, heart inflamation. Who wants that?!

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Jul 22, 2021, 5:07 PM

Either you "trust the science" or you don't?

It is an experimental drug. People are.free or they7 are not. I don't believe anyone should be forced to take an experimental drug, which is not a true vaccine, it is a gene therapy.

If everyone else or a majority have chosen to take it, what's the risk to those guys, unless the owners and the NFL don't trust it to really be effective.

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Jul 22, 2021, 7:01 PM

First, it is not gene therapy.

Second, freedom does not mean that you are immune from the consequences of your choices.

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Jul 22, 2021, 7:12 PM

Don’t forget nobody is forcing anyone.

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Dude is confusing mRNA vaccine with CRISPR technology

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Jul 22, 2021, 9:18 PM

it's a lost cause with some people.

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No one should be forced to take a shot that doesn’t prevent

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Jul 22, 2021, 6:45 PM

The disease in question… and it affects less than 99%

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Billy you need to stop "huffing" and get your butt

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Jul 22, 2021, 9:19 PM

into a math class.

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Jul 23, 2021, 11:08 AM

Do not buy the lie left coaster…

https://youtu.be/19Rm4n8c1dE

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Jul 23, 2021, 11:33 AM

OMG - well there you go. IF it is on YOUTUBE it must be true - excuse me.
Let me just make sure you know that Trump and his family took the vaccine in early January......

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Jul 23, 2021, 11:49 AM

Do not buy the lie left coaster…

https://youtu.be/19Rm4n8c1dE

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What are you talking about?

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Jul 22, 2021, 9:36 PM

Research involving tens of thousands of people showed that the vaccine prevents COVID infection in approximately 95% of people, and hospitalization in nearly 100%. This has been shown in the millions of people who have gotten the vaccine since.

I agree that no one should be forced to get it, but based on a careful weighing of potential risks vs. potential benefits, any adult over age 30 is pretty dumb if they choose not to get it.

I don’t think kids have any business getting this vaccine at this point.

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Jul 22, 2021, 9:46 PM

"There are none so blind as those who will not see." A quote I borrowed from an old movie.

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Jul 23, 2021, 11:37 AM

So true - folks have lost the desire or ability to look at data and reach rational conclusions.

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Jul 23, 2021, 2:42 AM

Nuk as well as most of the players in the NFL are under 30 and in prime physical shape. So do you support severe penalties if an outbreak occurs including non vaccinated players? I think most should still get the vaccine, but it's certainly reasonable to have questions and not do it blindly.

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Jul 23, 2021, 8:54 AM

And yet I've seen 2 to 3 other people talk about spreading "misinformation". Lexington County hospital in our on little state of South Carolina reported that 23% of all hospitalizations last week were vaccinated. 100% my ####.

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My only point is a perfectly healthy, low risk person

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Jul 23, 2021, 9:36 AM

Should not be compelled by any entity to take an experimental treatment in order to pursue their happiness. Otherwise, we are squashing freedom in a round about manner.

By next January, there will be plenty of folks who have been vaccinated with sufficient time to understand the affect of the vaccination more completely. At that point, I plan to get it if there’s no crazy long term side effects. And I really don’t expect there to be any long term side effects. I just want to give it some time.

This should be the right of any person to choose. It is their body after all. Those in at risk groups can choose to get it and those not in at risk groups can choose to get it or not. It is called freedom. Telling US citizens they cannot travel within the US without a vaccine or they cannot leave the US and return back without a vaccine is unconstitutional.

Now a country may not allow anyone into their country without a vaccine and that is that country’s right to do so. But the US should never be able to mandate this on US citizens. Especially since it is not a requirement of illegal aliens.

Likewise, the NCAA nor the university should be allowed to tell a player they cannot play football unless they take this experimental shot. Young, healthy folks are a low risk population. Forcing them to choose between risking their health with getting this shot and being able to pursue their dreams and/or career is an infringement on their freedom. It is unconstitutional. And it is an invasion on their healthcare privacy.

This is not an anti-science or anti-vaccine issue. It is a freedom issue. Pure and simple.

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Jul 23, 2021, 10:09 AM

Your thousands of people test is CDC information!! and you trust an organization that cow tows to the national teachers association and actually changes their stance on mask for them? CDC was set up to be neutral, but after this past year you see how political the organization is and how divisive this is! Just look at all the conflicting comments on this board. So you keep on listening to them, but I will never take what they say, along with the lying media as gospel without doing real research which includes talking to doctors.

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Jul 22, 2021, 10:22 PM

The government and social media has lied and sensored information about the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin. they've taken down Facebook pages & YouTube channels of Drs who are talking about other means of protecting yourself from covid other than frankenshots. VAERS system Has 100s and 100s of reports of severe reactions and death from covid shots. Why is FB/youtube/twitter & the govt trying to silence everyone?.They want sheeple.

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Jul 23, 2021, 6:22 AM

What happens if the outbreak is caused by a vaccinated player that tests poaitive?

The congressmen that flew from Texas to DC, broke out with a super spreader event. We're told they were all vaccinated.

We knew before that even vaccinated people can test positive, but their symptoms should be minor and easily recoverable.

This shaming & putting scarlet letters on people is not how this country works.

How about doing a better job of telling people the benefits & risks? From the start this was pushed on us as the only way out.

The virus is dangerous for the elderly, those with underlying comorbidity, and the obese. There is only one group here that an NFL player could fall under. We saw this play out with a few Clemson players last year.

Unfortunately, the whole pandemic was politicized from the start, and has gotten worse.

We're almost there.

Go Tigers.

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Jul 23, 2021, 5:22 PM

Why would you willingly take something that could kill you. His girlfriend's brother had a severe reaction a few days later. Heart issues. Sorry you"re in the dark and believe the big lie that the kab is ok. Hope no one you know gets hurt. Stop pushing this experimental concoction they know will kill us.

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Jul 22, 2021, 5:20 PM

Freedom has never meant that it's OK to risk the lives of others, and it should never be. Any time a person don't feel they have freedom in America, they should try another country, period!!!

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Unvaccinated are not risking the lives of the vaccinated.

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Jul 22, 2021, 10:36 PM

If they were then the vaccine is worthless.

THINK!

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Jul 22, 2021, 4:35 PM

I say let them all play. Covid positive or not. The vaccinated will have a much better chance of being just fine and the unvaccinated has already accepted the risks... everyone's happy...

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Jul 22, 2021, 4:56 PM

Lol yeah right. I would bet the unvaccinated will live longer. You haven't heard of the 10000 plus who have actually died from the vaccine. CNN won't tell you the real numbers yet you believe everything they say like it is the gospel. Must be true if it's on the internet or CNN!

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Jul 22, 2021, 5:24 PM

People believing everything they see posted on the Internet is how we got into this anti-vax, flat-earth, QAnon, Stop the Steal, mess.

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Anyone can post on VAERS.

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Jul 22, 2021, 9:26 PM

Things posted there don’t prove causation, just correlation.

We can all agree that the vaccine isn’t perfect, but if you really believe that the vaccine has killed thousands of people based on what’s on VAERS, then I have some beautiful oceanfront property for sale in Kansas that I think you will love.

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Re: Anyone can post on VAERS.

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Blaming an unvaccinated person’s death on another unvaccinated person is like blaming a driver not wearing a seat belt for the death of another driver not wearing a seat belt. Personal choice and personal responsibility. As an unvaccinated person, if I decide to go out in public and I get COVID from another unvaccinated person, I have no one to blame but myself.

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Jul 24, 2021, 9:21 AM

and, as always, he didn’t spend even one second to educate himself on it before forming an opinion.

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Jul 22, 2021, 8:32 PM

No people don't believe everything they are told now because the government lies. Watch How to be a Tyrant on Netflix and tell me that is not a carbon copy of what is going on right now. You aren't going to change my mind and I'm not going to change yours. You do your thing and i will do mine and not think any less of you for your decision.

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Jul 22, 2021, 5:32 PM

Says the Fox "News" watcher.

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Jul 22, 2021, 7:25 PM

I believe none of what dumb A$$ES make up in their minds to create an argument of their own. Stupid is, stupid does!!!!

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Jul 22, 2021, 5:29 PM

What would have happen in this country if it hadn't been mandatory to be vaccinated for Polio, and other diseases before starting school???

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Jul 22, 2021, 5:40 PM

I agree, but what’s being handed out like candy ain’t a real vaccine….bunch of test rats I see. I don’t trust it…..simple….when I do then I’ll consider it……I mean that…..like me and the flu…..I’ve never had….if I start getting the. I think it would be time to explore that……I’ll let my body do the fighting…..been strong for 41 years.

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Honest question: what would it take for you to trust the vaccine?***

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Jul 22, 2021, 11:05 PM

A virus based vaccine is in development and should be approved by October. I will consider it. It is made from the virus like every other vaccine in history has been made. Not interested in their mRNA gene therapy.

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Jul 22, 2021, 11:06 PM

Maybe a lot less deaths reported on VAERS - over 11,000 to date.

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I don’t feel like I need the vaccine anyway.

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Jul 23, 2021, 8:56 AM

I am fairly young and make the effort of living a healthy lifestyle.

And that is NOT selfish.
According to the science, the only benefit of the vaccine is it would reduce the severity of the virus for ME if I happened to catch it. I feel more comfortable taking that chance, and I am not endangering other people with my decision.

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Jul 22, 2021, 8:34 PM

How many people have died from the polio vaccine ans also how many people get polio after the vaccine? This vaccine bs is just that. If you want to let the government put something in your arm that is fine with me. I will not do it. If i die I die so be it.

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Jul 22, 2021, 4:40 PM

If you can still contract the virus with the vaccine how does it hurt for the ones that have the vac to be around someone that chooses not to get it ? Am I misinformed that the vaccine just helps you not get as sick ?

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Jul 22, 2021, 5:43 PM

Being vaccinated helps to keep you from dying of covid, but it isn't 100% affective for everybody. And with the variances of covid, it can kill even the young and healthy as covid 19 has already killed hundreds of thousands of the elderly. It isn't a smart decision refusing the covid vaccination, it just isn't. The variances of covid is a more serious killer that is killing every age!!! Not being vaccinated is just about the same as playing Russian Roulette!!!

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Jul 22, 2021, 8:28 PM

Unbelievable

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Jul 22, 2021, 7:03 PM

The unvaccinated are breeding grounds for new variants which might evade the vaccines. It really is that simple.

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Jul 22, 2021, 8:30 PM

Spoken like a true imbecile.

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Jul 23, 2021, 3:17 PM

The quality of your intellectual debate is inspiring

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The vaccines are causing the variants.***


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Jul 22, 2021, 8:35 PM

You are misinformed because it doesn't fit the vaxxers narrative. You really need to watch more CNN so you can be re educated before it is too late. I kid....

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when did football teams start to be called clubs?***

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Jul 26, 2021, 10:27 AM

When they changed the NFL from a sport to "entertainment" ... which means they can direct the entertainment however they want to.

You know, like 'dramatic' comebacks from way down when a team throws the ball instead of running to work the clock. I'm sure there are many other examples. :)

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I agree with D.J. Reader....***

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Jul 22, 2021, 5:22 PM

I totally agree they all should have the choice & Freedom to choose, it’s their body their doing this to.

It scares me they push this jab so hard for young healthy Athletes that have really high chances 99.84% of survival.

Their bodies develop antibodies naturally.

HIPPA should cover everybody’s private choice. I’ve had two neighbors this week within a block of each other pass away from the vaccine. The lady two doors down is 68 & overweight but took the vaccine last Thursday & immediately started to have problems, came home from the hospital Friday & an ambulance came about 6:30 pm, way to quick.

I know they say it’s safe but those 2 dropping so close scares the crap out of me.

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Jul 22, 2021, 5:28 PM

"HIPPA should cover everybody’s private choice."

HiPAA(not HIPPA) is a law about protecting the privacy of medical records. It has nothing to do with medical choices.

"I’ve had two neighbors this week within a block of each other pass away from the vaccine. "

Please don't post junk like this. You have NO way to know why they died. It's like saying someone died after taking an aspirin so they must have passed away from taking aspirin.

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Jul 22, 2021, 5:53 PM

Sorry dude but I do know because I’m involved in my neighborhood, I know their families, they told me about it I wouldn’t put that on here like that, it isn’t my nature. Both families who have been vaccinated took them & they both passed within 3-4 days.

If it makes you feel better ignore it & consider as you may.

My history of posts on Tigernet will back me up, I’ve never posted anything like this about covid deaths or anything else.

I gave my opinion because I was agreeing with DJ & Nuke, my fears because of what happened this week.

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Jul 22, 2021, 6:24 PM

I know you're telling the truth about what happened. My point is that we have no way to know WH
Y it happened. We don't know that their deaths had anything to do with the vaccine. Coincidences do happen. That's why we need to look at the data.

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This should muddy the water …


Jul 23, 2021, 1:17 AM

Or not….

Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. More than 339 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through July 19, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 6,207 reports of death (0.0018%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines. However, recent reports indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and TTS, a rare and serious adverse event—blood clots with low platelets—which has caused deaths.

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well lets give it 2-5 years and see if there are real

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Jul 23, 2021, 8:48 AM

adverse affects (we used to call that testing) and see where we stand. If half of ya'll are still here then bring on the jab. And we can say we know all we want but at the end of the day we don't know. No vaccine in our history has been rolled out so flippantly.

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Exactly… the vaccine is causing serious issues and death***

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Jul 22, 2021, 5:32 PM

I’m 100% with Nuk on this.

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Jul 22, 2021, 6:17 PM

You are free to not take the vaccine....you aren't free to live without the consequences to your decisions.

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Jul 22, 2021, 6:55 PM

Vaccine should never be a power the government or any entity of authority can require. Otherwise, force no abortions or force abortions! Freedom means free to choose. If the vaccine is the solution, then those vaccinated have nothing to be concerned about.

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Jul 22, 2021, 7:46 PM

Who is enforcing a vaccine on someone in this country? WHO????

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Jul 23, 2021, 2:56 AM

This article is based on the NFL considering a different consequences between vaccinated and unvaccinated players who test positive. Maybe they are not being forced, but they are being strong armed.

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He’s not being forced moron***


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You're right. He is only being threatened.

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Jul 23, 2021, 8:32 AM

Huge difference. If you don't get it you'll be responsible for a loss. Do you not do any critical thinking?

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Freedom means businesses have a right to operate


Jul 23, 2021, 1:55 PM

their businesses how they please, and citizens have a right to choose who they work for. Thank God we live in a country that allows for that. The NFL can operate its business how it wants to, and Nuk has the freedom to work for any other company he wishes to. I wouldn’t want it any other way. He is not being forced it all, no more than he is “forced” to wear a shirt into a 7-11.

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Jul 23, 2021, 11:41 PM

HELLO - open your eyes. Did you get measles? Chicken pox? Polio? Smallpox? Mono? It's just another public health measure - as others have said, it is NOT gene therapy, experimental, dangerous or political. It is simply a way to protect ourselves and each other, nothing more. If you are too self-centered to be concerned with anyone other than yourself then good luck with Delta or the next variant which YOU WILL GET and I hope you are proud of yourself when we have to shut down again because unvaccinated people continued the spread and by the way, good luck with PASC which I'm sure you have no idea what it even is - just ask someone who has it.

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Jul 22, 2021, 8:38 PM

Like I said I bet I will out live most of you that are vaccinated. You signed your death warrant when you took the vaccine. Now how does what I just typed sound to you? Good that's exactly how you trying to tell me I am wrong sounds to me.

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Jul 22, 2021, 10:49 PM

Ignorance is alive and well.

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Jul 22, 2021, 7:11 PM

The unvaccinated allow the virus to live on and mutate. Mutations then make vaccines less effective for us all. So enjoy your freedom to reject the vaccine but don’t think you aren’t contributing to the serious risks to others, death included. It’s not just about you.

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Jul 22, 2021, 8:36 PM

Unbelievably spoken like a true imbecile.

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Jul 22, 2021, 8:39 PM

You have been indoctrinated well. The virus will always be out there. Your unicorn vax isn't going to make it go away. #### people are so effing stupid!

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Please don’t wear a mask, either.

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Jul 22, 2021, 8:41 PM

That’ll help thin the herd.

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About masks ...


Jul 26, 2021, 10:44 AM

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/85814

The relative size of the virus to the holes in a mask are like throwing a ping pong ball through a soccer net.

Except for the N95 mask, the other "face coverings" or masks don't do much. If you spray perfume and then can smell it while using a mask, it doesn't work to keep out a virus. <img border=">">

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They absolutely couldn’t care less about that.

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Jul 22, 2021, 8:40 PM

Among many things, this pandemic has exposed just how many willfully ignorant, conspiracy-minded, anti-vax loons are part of this fanbase. What an embarrassment.

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You forgot selfish.***


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Jul 23, 2021, 9:54 AM

Please explain how not getting vaccinated is selfish . If you are vaccinated and can still get the virus but not get as sick then how does it help you for others to get the shot ? This is a question not an attempt to argue .

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Jul 22, 2021, 11:05 PM

Comments like this aren't really helpful.

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Nothing is going to help.

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Jul 23, 2021, 6:25 AM

These people aren’t “vaccine hesitant” and waiting on additional data. They are anti-vaxxers, fueled by deliberate misinformation and willful ignorance. At this point, honestly, they deserve what they get. The rest of us, those who are taking measures to protect ourselves and our loved ones and our communities, just have to keep doing so while these dim-bulbs around us continue to act like petulant children. I no longer care what happens to them. It’s just a shame that their prideful stupidity will impact some of those who are doing the right thing.

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Jul 22, 2021, 10:39 PM

Can we please stop putting unrelated posts that turn into political arguments on the football board? Yes, this concerns Nuk, but not Clemson football.

Thank you!

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Jul 22, 2021, 10:47 PM

Wow, that is radical. Has our nation become Russia or North Korea?

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Jul 23, 2021, 4:47 AM

Only time I’ll ever agree with Nuk.


-You can still receive & spread the virus with the jab.

-It is not FDA approved.

-99% survival rate

-50% of hospitalizations in UK and Israel are from people with the jab. US manipulates data.

Logic


Pick one.

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Jul 23, 2021, 9:38 AM

It is unconstitutional to force such a decision.


A perfectly healthy person who is in a low risk group should not be compelled by any entity to take an experimental treatment in order to pursue their happiness. Otherwise, we are squashing freedom in a round about manner.

By next January, there will be plenty of folks who have been vaccinated with sufficient time to understand the affect of the vaccination more completely. At that point, I plan to get it if there’s no crazy long term side effects. And I really don’t expect there to be any long term side effects. I just want to give it some time.

This should be the right of any person to choose. It is their body after all. Those in at risk groups can choose to get it and those not in at risk groups can choose to get it or not. It is called freedom. Telling US citizens they cannot travel within the US without a vaccine or they cannot leave the US and return back without a vaccine is unconstitutional.

Now a country may not allow anyone into their country without a vaccine and that is that country’s right to do so. But the US should never be able to mandate this on US citizens. Especially since it is not a requirement of illegal aliens.

Likewise, the NCAA nor the university should be allowed to tell a player they cannot play football unless they take this experimental shot. Young, healthy folks are a low risk population. Forcing them to choose between risking their health with getting this shot and being able to pursue their dreams and/or career is an infringement on their freedom. It is unconstitutional. And it is an invasion on their healthcare privacy.

This is not an anti-science or anti-vaccine issue. It is a freedom issue. Pure and simple.

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Jul 24, 2021, 10:38 AM

I personally predict that a year from now there will be many who will deeply regret having taken this injection. I began, with the guidance of a knowledgeable MD who told me about the Ivermectin prophylaxis protocol that has been thoroughly tested by the National Centerfor Biotechnology Information, a branch of the National institutes of Health. They found that Ivermectin “ is 98 to 100% preventative of Covid-19”. This is not an untested, experimental injection, but an oral protocol of a drug that has been safely used for 50+ years as a parasite treatment and preventative. Very inexpensive, too. The CDC, of course has condemned it. (Big Pharma can’t cash in ) And there will be no Ivermectin Passport.

Check it out for yourself. Better do it quick before Big Brother censors the info and bans the drug.
Or, continue down the primrose path - your choice.

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Jul 28, 2021, 12:27 PM

Umm, sorry, but I must have missed the section in the Constitution where it says a person has the freedom to play professional football. What a dumb statement. There's nothing here that would have anything to do with the Constitution. This is a private company making a decision to help control the spread of the virus. They're not even mandating that their employees get the virus, as some hospitals have. They're simply saying that if you don't get the vaccine and consequently get COVID-19, causing your team to have to forfeit a game, that you and your organization should be held liable for the cost of that forfeit.

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Jul 23, 2021, 11:14 AM

Nuk - you should be questioning your future if you are putting your own misguided and selfish attitude above your family, your teammates and the other players in the league. Yes, you should be told to do the right thing and protect others OR get a new job. Many of us have been told exactly that where one more immunization is now required as part of our jobs. Keep in mind you would not have a student at Clemson (or an NFL player) had you not met the vaccination requirements in effect at that time. This is just one more for the good of everyone.

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Jul 23, 2021, 6:43 PM

brain damage and gets worried about possible complications from a vaccine? Can't make this #### up

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Jul 28, 2021, 12:33 PM

And I wish they would all just shut the f up. The whole conversation is ridiculous. If you want to get it, go get it. If you don't want it, don't get it. But either way nobody really cares about your opinion.

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