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Kelly Bryant to WR if
Nov 6, 2016, 4:45 PM
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He wants to see field? Nick looked great and with the qb corp committed, don't see him taking field outside junk time as our qb. But he's lighting fast. If he has good hands, maybe make the move like Ohio state did a year ago
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Re: Kelly Bryant to WR if
Nov 6, 2016, 4:48 PM
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I honestly think it's a good move... imagine that speed returning kicks too
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Re: Kelly Bryant to WR if
Nov 6, 2016, 4:49 PM
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As fans, I think that's been the thought process. And while I don't claim to know
4 sure. I do think he'll have to make HUGE, HUGE strides come March/017. And a
movement may not come, if it does- till June.
Unless!!!
Bryant drives that.
Personally, pulling for Johnson.
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We have so many good WRs though.
Nov 6, 2016, 4:50 PM
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It's not like 04 when we moved Chansi Stuckey to WR.
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Re: We have so many good WRs though.
Nov 6, 2016, 4:52 PM
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How about DB ? Would probably to put on some muscle.
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Re: We have so many good WRs though.
Nov 6, 2016, 4:57 PM
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All good options. Hadn't thought of DB but works. Like the kid and want to see him on field. Just convinced, so far, it won't be at qb. But he's got talent. Need to find a place for him
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I brought up db on the roar one day and got laughed at
Nov 6, 2016, 5:06 PM
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I'm not sure why. he has the tall frame Venables likes and good speed. tj green learned the position in a year, why couldn't Bryant? honestly he'd be just as lost on the depth chart at wr as he would at qb, so it seems like the best playing opportunity is at safety. assuming he doesn't make it a QB, of course. I still haven't given up on him there like a lot of folks have.
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TJ played safety for two years...and I would love to know
Nov 6, 2016, 5:08 PM
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how you arrived at your conclusion that safety is the best place for KB to see PT
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if you'll read the post
Nov 6, 2016, 6:08 PM
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I said I haven't given up on him as qb yet. I also said it took tj a year to learn safety, not how long he ended up playing there. I also came to that conclusion because of our depth at wr doesn't seem to present him a good opportunity for playing time
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apparently the thought of him playing DB is laughable***
Nov 6, 2016, 6:11 PM
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Re: apparently the thought of him playing DB is laughable***
Nov 6, 2016, 6:17 PM
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good athlete with length, speed and size... hilarious. why would we want a guy like that back there???
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Re: TJ played safety in HS, KB played QB***
Nov 6, 2016, 6:24 PM
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the discussion was where he could move if qb doesn't work out. good athlete who could possibly help the team by changing positions rather than riding the pine. it's a hypothetical discussion. safety is normally the position where a good athlete can move to and play. i.e. Robert smith
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Re: Kelly Bryant to WR if
Nov 6, 2016, 4:51 PM
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I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility, though some on here will blow a gasket at the thought.
If he's dead set on QB then a transfer may be in his future. Maybe I still haven't seen enough of him but he's just not an effective passer.
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Re: Kelly Bryant to WR if
Nov 6, 2016, 6:22 PM
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Bryant looks like Lamar Jackson did last year. Bad decisions, poor throwing. With so few reps, it is hard to tell, but maybe he has some arm strength we just haven't seen.
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Well Nick will be gone with Watson so there is zero chance
Nov 6, 2016, 4:55 PM
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Bryant moves.
It will be a competition between Cooper, Bryant, and maybe Johnson.
Brice will RS and I don't see Israel in the mix. Someone will leave.
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I find it curious that seemingly every time........
Nov 6, 2016, 5:01 PM
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he gets in the game.....a running play for him is called? Let's see if he can throw.
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Re: Kelly Bryant to WR if
Nov 6, 2016, 5:02 PM
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What about RB sense he can run the ball!!! At 6'3", he would be very hard to catch in space or open field, and at 220/225 he would be really hard to bring down if he was caught!!! At RB, it could be a blessing to him when draft time comes around for him!!!
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how many 6-3 RBs in the NFL? Where is the blessing?***
Nov 6, 2016, 5:06 PM
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Re: how many 6-3 RBs in the NFL? Where is the blessing?***
Nov 6, 2016, 6:52 PM
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Who said anything about him being a RB in the NFL. I'm thinking about him seeing the field in college either as a WR or a RB, being that he was a running QB in HS. And he won't have much of a shot in the NFL from the bench as a backup QB at Clemson. With the big bone structure he looks to have, he will surely put on more weight and with the ball skills he could develop as a college RB catching the ball out of the BF and learning to block I'm thinking he could later on easily transition into a TE bc I believe he could carry 250 lbs easy with him being 220 lbs now. He may never reach the NFL, but he should weigh all his options now before it's to late, if he doesn't have a chance of being a starter QB at Clemson. He should look at other positions that could get him on the field. I know that there isn't any openings in the NFL for a career dual threat back up QB... I'm hoping he will move to whatever position he has to, that will give him a chance at the NFL is all I'm saying....
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did you not just say
Nov 6, 2016, 7:02 PM
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"At RB, it could be a blessing to him when draft time comes around for him!!!"? Clearly YOU said something about the draft
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Re: did you not just say
Nov 7, 2016, 6:51 PM
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Yes I did, a blessing in getting him on the field playing something where he will be seen, heck, try corner, safety, WR, RB anything besides a backup QB. AS a RB/QB in HS the kid has skills, and personally I would like for him to play whatever that will help him to get to the next level. Just saying that he doesn't have to be a QB if he believes he will never be an NFL talent as QB. Any position change will be a blessing or a plus that could help the kid to get to the next level. Take it for whatever pleases you bc it really don't don't make any difference to me really what you read into my original statement of what may help him if an NFL future is what he wants. I will agree though with you that 6'3" isn't the norm for an NFL RB. But as a college RB, or any other position in college could get him noticed, and a scout may see him better suited as a future NFL player if they see that he is a great athlete. Just as our coaches do when recruiting a WR or QB as an athlete over the HS position that they played in HS. Vic Beasley came to Clemson as a TE, Dabo and coaches talked him into switch to a DE. My thoughts for Kelly is basicly as the same, play what he will be excellent at that will get him noticed by NFL scouts, anything but a backup QB.
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I saw Bryant play safety in spots at Wren
Nov 6, 2016, 7:20 PM
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It wasn't pretty. As good an athlete as he is, he had a hard time changing direction as a DB. He would at a minimum need two years of exclusive training to make it work there IMO. For better or worse he's a QB. I think everyone will be pleasantly surprised how well he does out of DW4's shadow.
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Thanks for the info***
Nov 6, 2016, 11:46 PM
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KB won't change positions for at least one more season, if
Nov 6, 2016, 5:04 PM
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then...Even if he doesn't win the job in the spring/fall camps, he WILL be the backup next year...Maybe he changes as a SR, maybe he doesn't, but he won't change before then
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I don't think he changes positions, but yesterday one thing
Nov 6, 2016, 5:11 PM
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jumped out at me: If coaches really felt Bryant was the future, seems to me he would have gotten a ton of reps yesterday, and had a chance to make some throws and get into a rythym. Instead, Scheussler got all of the meaningful snaps, and all Bryant got was a few basic running plays and no passes past the line of scrimmage.
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he made a real nice throw on the rollout to Trevion and it
Nov 6, 2016, 5:15 PM
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went for 15
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That's right - I forgot about that. The playcalling was very
Nov 6, 2016, 5:30 PM
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different for Bryant than it was for Scheussler though. I'm glad Nick got rewarded for all of his hard work and he did look good, but just thought our future QB could have benefitted from more reps.
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yeah, they definitely called differently when KB was in
Nov 6, 2016, 5:43 PM
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Re: I don't think he changes positions, but yesterday one thing
Nov 6, 2016, 5:30 PM
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Not necessarily. They think Nick is the best chance this year if DW goes down and he needs reps in the event we need him this year to win. Focused on the here and now. Worry about next year next spring.
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That would explain it.***
Nov 6, 2016, 5:38 PM
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Re: That would explain it.***
Nov 6, 2016, 5:39 PM
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Ok. Maybe I've been to polite.. Kelly needs to move. His few throws outsid one were god awful. He has talent though. Just don't think it's at qb.
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Re: That would explain it.***
Nov 7, 2016, 8:14 AM
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Okay maybe I've been too polite. You are a pathetic chicken fan and are fooling no one.
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Re: That's how I took it as well, although last year I think KB
Nov 6, 2016, 5:47 PM
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Agreed but it's fluid. Nick def has a better arm. And we don't need a Lamar playing qb. We have RBs...
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We have WRs playing WR, why would we need a QB to play WR?
Nov 6, 2016, 5:52 PM
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He will be a QB for at least another full season...He wouldn't make the transition until spring of 2018.
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I thought the same about Muse...
Nov 6, 2016, 5:21 PM
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tall, thin, fast.
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Re: Kelly Bryant to WR if
Nov 6, 2016, 6:05 PM
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I agree with most said on this thread but I just don't want to give up on him at QB. I'm sure coaches will make the right call.
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So a 4 star QB who has been behind the best QB in Clemson history
Nov 6, 2016, 6:25 PM
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...shouldn't play QB, but move to WR instead which is a position he has never played and arguably the deepest position on the team? Because he's a good athlete? Got it.
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Kelly Bryant needs a Kevin Dodd type breakthrough
Nov 6, 2016, 9:20 PM
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Otherwise, our starting QB in 2017 gets here in January.
None of them are as good as Hunter Johnson.
And Tucker can sling it, don't sleep on him either.
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I thought Zerrick Cooper is supposed to have the best arm
Nov 7, 2016, 12:19 AM
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of any of them.
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This Staff,which recruits pretty dang good,
Nov 7, 2016, 8:22 AM
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chose KB over L Jackson. People should wait until Spring to see what happens on the field. If he's not in the Top 2, he and the coaches will make a decision about his future.
Everyone thought he wasn't good enough to be number 2,yet no one saw just where Street has Nick at these days.
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Re: Kelly Bryant to WR if
Nov 7, 2016, 12:11 AM
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Put 25lbs on him and move him to TE. We could be a big match up problem with his speed.
May take a while to get him to block, but pass catching should be good.
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Re: Kelly Bryant to WR if
Nov 7, 2016, 12:28 AM
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Great person, great athlete, great representative of CU! Unfortunately not the answer at QB. Would love to see a switch to another position.
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Re: Kelly Bryant to WR if
Nov 7, 2016, 12:30 AM
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Z. Cooper starts next year. Mark it down.
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I don't think it matters one iota what Kelly B wants...
Nov 7, 2016, 12:48 AM
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what does matter
is whether or not he has or can reasonably develop top-flight collegiate recognition skills.
that's because there's no way in hail this coaching staff is going to waste
the top-flight talent they've recruited at WR - to do so would be ridiculously outrageous.
yes, KB was a 4* - but he's sitting behind a former 2-3* as a backup now,
and that tells me he is a really good/great athlete
with maybe average recognition skills and maybe average accuracy skills.
that won't make it at Clemson.
look at Tajh - great arm, fair mid-range accuracy, great long ball, no NFL recognition skills = no NFL career, sadly.
even DW4 is struggling right now throwing a few picks into tweaked coverages as DC's adapt to our passing game.
QB is all about recognition -
the arm, the wheels, the touch are all nothing more than the secret handshake to get a tryout.
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He is not a QB.*****
Nov 7, 2016, 4:35 AM
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Re: Kelly Bryant to WR if
Nov 7, 2016, 7:44 AM
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I have never, ever thought that Kelly could be a QB at CLEMSON. I first saw him in the Shrine Bowl when he played in HS. He looked as lost as anyone I've ever witnessed, and I wondered what CLEMSON saw in him that I could not see. Every time he comes in as QB, I wonder what in the world do the coaches still see in this guy. I'd rather see Tucker Israel play than Kelly Bryant. KB will never be a decent QB IMO. He cannot pass for squat from what I've witnessed. Why do people insist that he will improve greatly and suddenly we have a great QB to replace Watson? We won't win 6 games next year if he's the QB. I don't think any of our coaches could possibly make that bad of a decision. He needs to transfer - and soon - if he really wants to play football. I'm not sure what position he could be successful at, but QB is NOT one of them.
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Re: Kelly Bryant to WR if
Nov 7, 2016, 7:56 AM
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Honestly I hope ether Kelly or Cooper becomes the starter next year! If Cooper wins the job next year I can see Kelly playing WR where Mike is positioned. He's tall and already around 215 with speed! Man I hope Kelly becomes a star for us one day he has the talent and the personality!
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Nick showed Saturday why KB is not #2 yet
Nov 7, 2016, 8:10 AM
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KB and the coaches will decide where he needs to play this Spring. Let's not pretend we know more than the coaches.
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It's Nick,not KB as the reason why KB is not #2
Nov 7, 2016, 8:11 AM
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Remember,this staff took KB over L Jackson. With their track record, I'll give them the benefit.
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Re: It's Nick,not KB as the reason why KB is not #2
Nov 7, 2016, 6:55 PM
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I hope the kid will be great at whatever he does at Clemson, and if it isn't as a QB, put him somewhere, anywhere that he will be great at!!! Just don't let his athletic talent go to waste!!!
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KB is going to be as good a LJ next year.
Nov 7, 2016, 8:01 PM
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He has touch on the ball now.
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Re: Kelly Bryant to WR if
Nov 7, 2016, 8:42 PM
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Cooper will be the starter next year!
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