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Freshman [-100]
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I've always had faith in Dabo.
Jul 15, 2022, 10:31 AM
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Really good coach with a good bead on things. I always felt he had good instincts. However, I am a little worried about DJ. I really hope he has his head in the right place this year and does well but I'm nervous after last season. Last years offense was kinda hard to watch.
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110%er [4022]
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Re: I've always had faith in Dabo.
Jul 15, 2022, 10:40 AM
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Were you in full support when Stout started over true freshman DW4 and when KB started ahead of true freshman TL?
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Re: I've always had faith in Dabo.
Jul 15, 2022, 10:47 AM
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I havnt had any issues with Dabo's instincts but last year left me scratching my head. I'm not sure I wouldn't have pulled DJ. He was way worse than either of the 2 you mentioned. I thought KB was a really good QB TOO. Probably not as good as TL but I was never sold on TL. He is a good QB but I don't believe TL is near as good as DW. I expect TL will probably end up as an NFL backup at some point for most of his career.
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Legend [6955]
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had he pulled DJ last year, DJ would not be here this year.
Jul 15, 2022, 11:23 AM
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imo
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Playmaker [355]
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Re: had he pulled DJ last year, DJ would not be here this year.
Jul 15, 2022, 11:44 AM
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I have no confidence in #5. Hope he changes my thinking.
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Game Changer [2048]
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Re: I've always had faith in Dabo.
Jul 15, 2022, 11:56 AM
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I completely understand ... and I wondered the same thing. However, the QB cupboard was bare last year and if he had pulled DJ, we probably would not have had the same record we did.
There is value in having a "Big Time QB" at the helm even though he is not having a good year. At least it kept the opposing defense a little bit more cautious because of his prior year performance - albeit just two full games.
In sports, if you're not moving forward (DJ), you're falling behind, so you'd better be improving or you'll be sitting on the bench more than you want to be.
This year is totally different. The QB room is full and they're all chomping at the bit to get on the field. Klubnik showed a LOT in the spring game besides his play. He was in serious discussions with the coaches and players while he was on the sideline. He doesn't seem like he's the type to just sit back and let things happen .. he appears to be heavily involved in maximizing his, and his teammates' development time.
THOSE are the qualities of a true leader and I have no doubt Dabo will make a transition to Cade this season if/when DJ fails to perform at the level we need, and the time is appropriate.
Plus ... Cade will have had a whole spring, summer training, and fall camp to develop before it is we even see his improvement. And IMO, he will be a whole level up from what he showed in the spring. I'm looking forward to it.
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Re: I've always had faith in Dabo.
Jul 15, 2022, 12:26 PM
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I would like to hear your opinion on Trevor Lawrence after he gets some decent players surrounding him in Jacksonville.
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Orange Phenom [14610]
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Dynasty Maker [3321]
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Re: We didn't have a viable option behind DJ last year
Jul 15, 2022, 3:09 PM
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This is the part of the story very few people want to acknowledge. We did not have a viable candidate behind DJU last year. TP was a decent change of pace but he was not an upgrade. And the "fanboys" that thought Hunter Helms deserved a shot based on a couple touchdowns against a horrible Georgia Tech team in 4th quarter mop up duty really need to watch more football. The good news is this year the back up (Klubnik) is a viable replacement in the event DJU is not performing up to expectations. Heck, Johnson could probably also step up and win some games in a Cole Stoudt game manager situation.
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Re: I've always had faith in Dabo.
Jul 15, 2022, 10:41 AM
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I'm really pulling for DJ to have a great year.
It would benefit everyone.
I don't think many people argue over his talent. Maybe this year the coaches just cut him loose and let him play, and see if it will all work out.
In the 2 games that he filled in for Trevor he just seemed to be so relaxed...I would love to see him get back to that comfort level.
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Re: I've always had faith in Dabo.
Jul 15, 2022, 8:25 PM
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if you dont an oline makes no matter who the qb is
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Re: I've always had faith in Dabo.
Jul 15, 2022, 10:45 AM
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Nice first post. It has been a little while since we’ve seen an “I trust Dabo, butt….” post.
I would have stopped after the subject line.
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Re: I've always had faith in Dabo.
Jul 15, 2022, 10:48 AM
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I guess you are saying your opinions are much more important since you live on the forum? Lol ok.
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Ultimate Tiger [34496]
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Re: I've always had faith in Dabo.
Jul 15, 2022, 10:53 AM
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Nope. You have every right to state your opinions. Just as I do. I am generally entertained by the I trust Dabo , butt… postings. I don’t know how to do his job, or yours for that matter, so I just stick to my job.
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Re: I've always had faith in Dabo.
Jul 15, 2022, 10:57 AM
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I bet if I go back and read your post history, I bet you are quite rude to many people. Shouldn't be hard to find.
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Ultimate Tiger [34496]
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Re: I've always had faith in Dabo.
Jul 15, 2022, 11:00 AM
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Wow. That’s a lot to glean from one post. Happy hunting!
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Freshman [-100]
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Re: I've always had faith in Dabo.
Jul 15, 2022, 11:06 AM
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Yeah, I have an uncanny ability to read people. Seems i read you very well.
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Varsity [104]
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Funny, I’ve been told I have an uncanny ability to read people too.
Jul 15, 2022, 12:59 PM
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And this thread reads like something from someone on this site who was recently discarded.
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Valley Legend [12940]
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Re: I've always had faith in Dabo.
Jul 15, 2022, 11:16 AM
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I bet if I go back and read your post history, I bet you are quite rude to many people. Shouldn't be hard to find.
Yup....he is part of a "Karen group" who seeks to control what others post by attacking if your post does not align with his views.
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Ultimate Tiger [34496]
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Re: I've always had faith in Dabo.
Jul 15, 2022, 11:40 AM
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Last time you took an unsolicited swipe at me and accused me of doing what you do regularly, you said I was part of a “legion of old men…”. So are we a group or a legion??
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Valley Legend [12940]
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Re: I've always had faith in Dabo.
Jul 15, 2022, 12:28 PM
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Untuck your shirt and realize it could be both.
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Ultimate Tiger [34496]
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Re: I've always had faith in Dabo.
Jul 15, 2022, 12:52 PM
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I think I prefer legion. If I say we identify as a legion instead of a group do you have to call us that? Is that how this PC stuff works? Just heeding your advice and trying to move out of the 18th century.
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Tiger Titan [50790]
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If “I don’t know how to do their job, so I’m not going to comment”
Jul 15, 2022, 11:11 AM
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was the prevailing notion, we wouldn’t see so much criticism here of most every coach on campus.
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Ultimate Tiger [34496]
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Re: If “I don’t know how to do their job, so I’m not going to comment”
Jul 15, 2022, 11:13 AM
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True statement Judge. And social media as a whole would most likely die. Maybe not a bad idea, huh?
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Tiger Spirit [9974]
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If you agree w/ the Judge, why not a TU to him?
Jul 15, 2022, 1:51 PM
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What's your criteria for a TU?
Just an observation.
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Ultimate Tiger [34496]
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Re: If you agree w/ the Judge, why not a TU to him?
Jul 15, 2022, 2:02 PM
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Honestly I usually forget about the whole TU/TD thing so I don’t normally do a lot of either. If something just really jumps out at me or someone says something that reminds me I might remember to do it. If I TU something it’s usually a very positive post. I stand guilty as accused of being an old guy and as such, not always the quickest on the tech stuff. And I really struggle with how to post attachments and links and that kind of stuff.
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Tiger Spirit [9974]
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Completely understandable fla. From what I've noticed, a lot
Jul 15, 2022, 2:30 PM
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of these posters "live or die" due to their pulse. Some quit because their pulse is low and they're called "coots".
If a poster takes the time to voice their opinion, and they've put a little time in their day to post, why not a TU?
I don't necessarily have to agree with them, but hey, the dude is participating in dialogue about The Clemson Tigers! And that's why we're here on TN.
As always,
Go Tigers!
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Re: I've always had faith in Dabo.
Jul 15, 2022, 11:05 AM
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Because you seem to think Dabo is infallible so we are not allowed to question a single decision on a message board which was designed to debate the issues of the day. Here is a clue for you. A fan can question a coach's decision and not be a bad fan plus said fan can still support Dabo who makes way more good decisions then bad decisions. But there are a few stinkers here and there which is true of every-single-person walking this earth
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Orange Phenom [14610]
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Dabo's poor decisions have mostly been limited to the
Jul 15, 2022, 2:07 PM
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occasional game management snafu and saying too much to the media. His program and roster management decisions are generally spot on.
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Tiger Titan [50790]
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You’re clearly new here so I’m going to help you out.
Jul 15, 2022, 10:50 AM
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According to most people here, Dabo is not to be questioned. Ever. It will result in numerous thumbs down and possible accusations that you are a coot.
Consider yourself forewarned.
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Re: You’re clearly new here so I’m going to help you out.
Jul 15, 2022, 10:54 AM
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I've read your post judge and you are a nice guy. I like your thoughts. But I don't live on tigernet and they could down thumb me to 0 and I could care less.
My opinion is my own and I have as much right to mine as they do theirs. AND since DJ is making so much cash now, a little criticism probably isn't unexpected.
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Tiger Titan [50790]
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I agree. Looking forward to reading more of your posts.***
Jul 15, 2022, 11:05 AM
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [101582]
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Aww...we have a budding friendship here. How sweet.***
Jul 15, 2022, 11:09 AM
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All-In [10793]
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Re: Aww...we have a budding friendship here. How sweet.***
Jul 15, 2022, 11:12 AM
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^^^the only thing TU worthy on this thread!
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Paw Master [16691]
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Respectfully, I'm not sure what your point is?
Jul 15, 2022, 11:36 AM
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You respect Dabo, but you think he missed on this recruit (DJ)?
You respect Dabo, but he should have started someone else?
You respect Dabo, but a head coaching decision led to poor QB play?
You respect Dabo, but he did not adequately prepare DJ?
You respect Dabo, but he did not adequately develop DJ?
Are you thinking that "Hey guys, I'm a little nervous about our offense after last year's performance" is something that is a unique or bold stand? When you start with your admiration for Dabo "but"...you're implying that he is/was somehow deficient?
We've added two "five star recruits" since last year's issues. One a steady-handed veteran who knows our team and the other a potential replacement if he can get up to speed. Not sure what else Dabo could have done?
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Tiger Spirit [9974]
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Not sure the poster had "but" in his post. BUT, just my
Jul 15, 2022, 2:00 PM
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observation.
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Paw Master [16691]
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I mean...he had a "however".
Jul 15, 2022, 2:05 PM
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but
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Freshman [-96]
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Re: I mean...he had a "however".
Jul 15, 2022, 3:07 PM
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This is either part of the Karen police unit or an aspiring member. Either way, hey Karen!
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We have Klubnik and Johnson
Jul 15, 2022, 11:22 AM
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We should be fine.
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Re: I've always had faith in Dabo.
Jul 15, 2022, 11:22 AM
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DJ is a great athlete. He is also a great person. The game seems a little fast for him.
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Clemson Icon [24894]
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Tell 'em u7c coot, no one knows losing better than you
Jul 15, 2022, 8:07 PM
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110%er [3749]
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Everyone is nervous for DJ
Jul 15, 2022, 11:49 AM
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First game last year with UGa, I thought he did a decent job. The INT was everyone's fault, including coaches. Hey it was the soon to be National Champs... give credit where it's due I guess.
It was the games after that where DJ was hard to watch. He was clearly rattled in the first game, and it carried on into the rest. Add in all of the injuries and it was perfect storm. But hey, a 10-3 season wasn't too bad.
Boy that NCS game still is a hard one to take. We should have caught that ball at the end of OT.
This year, we are in a much, much, much better place with a Veteran Back-up transfer, new kid 5 start recruit, and DJ.
With DJ, it's...all...on...him. I have a hunch that the other two will press for playing time and a short leash.
Go Tigers!
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Orange Blooded [2493]
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I trust Dabo and the coaching staff
Jul 15, 2022, 12:17 PM
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In rewatched the SCAR and ISU games from last season. DJ looked more decisive and did a nice job running the offense. I think this was in large part due to improved online play. Despite this, the offense was still one dimensional largely due to inconsistent WR play (remember that Will Swinney was a starter) and DJ’s inability to throw accurately down the field.
I am not confident DJ’s accuracy will improve, but I am confident WR play will and this will be good enough to get to the ACC championship game. If this looks in doubt early, I think we will start to see Cade ease into the offense or Hunter take over. (Don’t sleep on Hunter Johnson.)
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Clemson Icon [24765]
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The ISU game was painful to watch. Barely 300yds of offense
Jul 15, 2022, 12:35 PM
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No points in the fourth quarter. Horrible interception by DJ late in the game. He has a knack for keeping other teams in games with mistakes. If not for the pick 6 we got we may very well have lost that game. If their NFL running back would have played, probably a different outcome.
The Spring game was more of the same from DJ. He's a game changing mistake waiting to happen at all times.
I don't think we make the playoffs with DJ this year. Hopefully, Cade can establish himself before the NC State game in week 5.
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Ring of Honor [23842]
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It pains me to say that I agree with you.
Jul 15, 2022, 2:01 PM
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I watched that game again recently, and he did not look good. However, I don't think DJ was as horrible as everyone says in the Spring game.
I am holding out hope that our staff can either:
1. Coach-up DJ
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2. Get Cade ready as soon as possible
Either one of those things can get us into the playoffs with our defense.
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Ring of Honor [23842]
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This needs to be mentioned too! WR and OL were not good at
Jul 15, 2022, 2:05 PM
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all.
I still have images in my mind of Putnam being thrown around like a rag doll at times last season. Hopefully, another year in the weight room gets his strength where it needs to be at this level.
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Re: OL and WR did not help him much last year
Jul 15, 2022, 2:07 PM
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man i can’t believe i had to read through so many replies before this one.
DJ…any QB….is not a one man show. He didn’t play all that well but to blame the entire down year on him is just ignant
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Re: OL and WR did not help him much last year
Jul 15, 2022, 2:17 PM
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^^^^^This! Thanks-
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Ring of Honor [23842]
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True there was enough blame to go around...
Jul 15, 2022, 2:34 PM
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But you'd be blind not to see that DJ struggled with the simplest throws last year even when he had time.
At the same time, and when you're the most frustrated, he'd make some spectacular play.
Bottom line is that he has ability. I am hoping he figures it out this year. DJ is a Tiger and we all should hope for the best for this young man.
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Ultimate Tiger [34496]
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Re: True there was enough blame to go around...
Jul 15, 2022, 2:43 PM
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That is true. I remember seeing Shipley headed to the flats where it looked like he had lots of room to run and the ball comes over his head or so short he has to stop to come back to it or fall down just making the catch. And I also remember some drops that had me shaking my head thinking “what if”?. Y’all know I’m not real big on the blame game, I’m just hoping they figure it out this year.
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Ring of Honor [23842]
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Nope, you have a good even keel to you.
Jul 15, 2022, 2:46 PM
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Something I can do better at if I am honest.
As I said, he has the tools, and we also have a really good coaching staff. I really hope DJ proves me and everyone else wrong!
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Stopped at however***
Jul 15, 2022, 2:19 PM
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Tiger Spirit [9974]
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At least you got past the "but" that's not there. Dude has
Jul 15, 2022, 2:38 PM
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some concerns. As we all do.
(I know, "however" is kinda sorta like "but").
But, I'd rather be a Tiger than, however, a gamec0ck.
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National Champion [7965]
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Re: I've always had faith in Dabo.
Jul 15, 2022, 2:44 PM
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Dabo had to stick with DJ last year because there was no other option. I thought he handled the TL and KB situation really well.
I disagree about TL I think he will be one of the greatest of all time. We will see.
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ALL IN
Jul 15, 2022, 3:47 PM
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Enough said
GO TIGERS
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Jul 16, 2022, 12:57 PM
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I don't post much on here but I did want to get in on this conversation lol . 1st. I think DJ is a good QB what happened last year all come from the 1st game after the loss I think DJ blamed himself and I personally think that affected the rest of his year and a leader can't do that. Now GA thinks they won by like a 100 points but there offense wasn't no better that day because they did score either ?? lol. I do think if DJ is not together in the 1st game vs GT Dabo will pull him and try Cade just my opinion. Lol
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50
