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Hey everyone, one of my favorite things to do before a big opening weekend matchup is to come to the opposing teams board and tell them about our team and learn about theirs. Sure you can read articles and watch YouTube clips but only message board fans know the real dirt. I read a few threads and yall seem to feel similar about your team as LSU fans feel about ours. We both think we have our most talented team in a few years and that this is the year we can make a run at a natty. We just need our pieces to play and coach to their ability. The big difference for LSU is that we need a bunch of new pieces to gel quickly which is a big disadvantage for us, especially given the trend that Brian Kelly takes 3 games to figure out who should be playing.
I am going to give a position by position breakdown of LSU and probably some commentary on how I think they might measure up to Clemson.
QB - Garrett Nussmeir is a very good college QB on the verge of being Elite. He has the poise and moxie that you can’t teach and plays the position with great anticipation. He is also more athletic than his numbers show. For whatever reason, he seemed to think it was against the rules for a QB to run until the Ole Miss game last season. Not that he ran a ton after that but he at least ran every now and then. His biggest weakness last year was trusting his presnap reads and getting tricked into throwing INTs. But when he is dialed in and slinging it, he is a tough QB to go against. Nuss vs Klubnik is gonna be a #### of a dual.
RB - Caden Durham is our starter and will get the lions share of the reps. He is short and stocky and has great burst and track speed but his greatest asset is that he is slippery and rarely seems to get tackled by the first defender. I think Durham having a productive game is of the utmost importance for LSU’s chances. Kaleb Jackson is our power back. He has a ton of raw ability but last year vision and patience were a huge issue for him. Harlem Berry is our other RB that might play. He’s a 5 star freshman who is uber athletic but I am not sure how much he will play in the opener.
WR - we have 4 WRs that will likely be our main players here. This is a unit that, on paper, is greatly improved from last year. Our 2 returning WRs are Aaron Anderson and Chris Hilton. Anderson is a small, shifty slot who was probably our best WR last year. He is at his best underneath making plays with his feet after the catch. Hilton was hurt most of last year and really only played the final 2 games healthy. He had over 100 yards in each of those games and 3 TDs. He is very fast and is the deep threat that we sorely missed most of last season. If he stays healthy, I think he will be our top guy. The 2 newcomers are Nic Anderson and Barion Brown. Anderson is 6’4 220 and had an extremely productive freshman year at OU with over 800 yards and averaged over 20 yards per catch. I am not really sure what he will give LSU out of the gate because he missed all of last season with a knee injury. If he is at 100%, he could be a very dangerous piece for Nuss. Barion Brown is from Kentucky and is extremely fast. He has never played with a good QB so his WR stats don’t jump out at you. He does, however, have 5 kickoff returns for TDs. That’s an insane number. He is kind of the wild card because we don’t know exactly how he will fit in or what he will give us but he definitely has the athletic ability to make an impact. The good news is that we have 4 seemingly high quality WRs on paper and when you have that many, it makes it difficult for the defense to take them all away. Now we all know that what seems great on paper doesn’t always work out in reality but it does seem like a deep and talented group.
TE - we have 2 TEs that will play. Bauer Sharp is a transfer from OU that will most likely be our typical hand in the dirt TE. He is pretty athletic and has good size and good experience as well. I’m sure he will be somewhat of a factor in the passing game but he is probably 6th or 7th on the list of mouths to feed. Our other TE is Treydez Green. He is a 6’7 245 lb freak of an athlete. There is zero doubt in my mind that he will be a solid part of our offense as a receiver. The big question mark for him is if he can block well enough to remain on the field the majority of the time.
OL - On offense, this is the group where LSU has the biggest question mark. And going against your DL out of the gate, isn’t great for us. Now from a pure talent standpoint point, we should be able to field a solid OL. The issue is they don’t have much experience, if any at all. My guess on the starters are LT Tyree Adams, LG DJ Chester, C Braelin Moore, RG Josh Thompson, RT Weston Davis. All of these guys were either top 100 recruits or highly sought after transfers but only Chester started for LSU last year and that was at C. He was not a very good C as he had trouble with being the game manager and then doing his assignment. The hope is that as a guard he can be a better blocker since he won’t have to think as much. The tackles are both young but both are big and athletic. They have quite the task ahead of them though. The other 2 guys are both transfers and have a lot of experience, just at other schools. We have a few reserves such as Carius Curne, Coen Echols, and Solomon Thomas that could rotate in but I think the 5 I mentioned will start. Thai group could make or break us on opening day. We don’t need them to dominate (they likely won’t) but we need them to hold their own.
DE - this room (again on paper) has been upgraded from last year. We brought in Jack Pyburn from Florida and Patrick Payton from FSU. Pyburn is your typical crazy white boy that plays with a contagious energy level. He is great against the run but has never been able to show whatever can do on 3rd downs. Payton, on the other hand, is a long athletic pass rusher but is not known for his run defense. Behind them we have Gabriel Reliford and Jimari Butler from Nebraska. I think Reliford will be the main reliever at DE. He’s a good all around DE with good size and speed. It wouldn’t surprise me if he starts and Payton comes on in pass rusher situations or something like that. Butler is a veteran 5th year guy who has been productive but not dominant at Nebraska. I’m sure he will play some but I think he is behind the other 3.
DT - The starters will most likely be Jacobian Guillory and Dominic McKinkey. Guillory is a 5th year guy that is coming off of a knee injury. If he is 100% then he is a solid nose that’s difficult to move and can be disruptive at times. McKinley is a former 5 star and is expected to break out this year. Behind them we have 3 guys: Ahmad Breaux, Bernard Gooden, and Sydir Mitchell. Breaux is a solid depth piece who will always do his job but didn’t wow last year. Very technically sound. Gooden is a transfer from USF where he graded out really well on PFF but he’s pretty small at 6’1 280. Mitchell is a monster of a man at 6’6 350. He was at Texas last year and didn’t play much but he’s pretty small had a great spring so it’s possible that he factors in this season. This is probably our most unknown group on defense. We have a lot of guys that on paper look good but none that have actually done it.
LB - the starters at the traditional LBer will be Whit Weeks and most likely Dahvon Keys. Weeks is the best player on this defense. He’s an absolute stud and just an incredible kid all around. He did break his ankle in our bowl game so there is a chance that it slows him but he claims to be at 100% and ready to go. Keys broke into the lineup toward the end of last season and played really well. He is a guy that I am excited to see take a leap (hopefully) in year 2. The main backup will be West Weeks, whits older brother. He is a good but not great LBer. No one would ever complain if he started but his ceiling isn’t all that high. We have a bunch of highly recruited freshman and RS FR behind these 3 but I don’t think we will see any of them. Maybe Jaden Braker but he’s a true FR so I’m not sure. This is also the only position group on the team other than RB where we didn’t take a transfer.
Star - Harold Perkins is our star. This position is kind of a hybrid LBer, Safety. Perkins will be able to cover underneath or come off the edge from this spot. We have tried to make him a traditional LBer but he struggles to shed OL when taking them head on from a stand still and we lose his crazy athleticism in such a tight space. He is also coming off a knee injury but is also thought to be 100%. Perkins excelling at the star position could make this defense extremely good (I don’t want to say elite).
CB - we have 5 guys that could play here. I think the starters will be Mansoor Delane from VT and DJ Pickett a 5 star FR. Delane is very experienced and was the alpha in the room during the spring. He is also being trained as a safety in case he is needed there. Pickett is 6’4 and very athletic. During spring he was being compared to Derek Stingley who was a freshman all American and All SEC for us in 2019. If he lives up to that hype, we will be more than solid at CB. The other 3 that w have are Jahkeem Jackson, Ashton Stamps, and PJ woodland. Jackson was a starter at Florida before getting hurt last year. He seems to be a high ceiling guy and his emergence could move Delane to Safety depending on how it goes at that position. Stamps started every game for us last year. He is a solid CB but struggled when the ball was in the air. Woodland hasn’t played as much but the coaches love him.
Safety - I think the starters will be Deshawn Spears and AJ Haulcey. Spears played a good bit as a freshman last year, is long and athletic and seemed to turn the corner in spring. Haulcey is a senior from Houston and was all Big12 last season. He plays with a mean streak and seems to be a playmaker. Tamarcus Cooley is the other safety that will probably play. He was a highly sought after transfer from NCST but he mostly played nickel corner last year so he is adjusting to playing a true safety spot. Jardin Gilbert was a starter for us last year and is also in this room but I’d be surprised if he is a large part of this team. I’m sure he’ll play but idk how much.
I hope yall enjoy reading about our team and share a bit about your team with me. 8/30 can’t get here soon enough. GEAUX TIGERS.
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Re: LSU Fan Here - Game Discussion
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Jul 23, 2025, 12:53 PM
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Your education about the real Death Valley tigers will begin in earnest on game day young grasshopper.
See ya then.....
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Jul 23, 2025, 7:54 PM
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Nice book corndog.
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Jul 31, 2025, 8:38 PM
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No one thinks that besides Clemson fans lol- no one cares if you all had the name first in the 40's.
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Re: LSU Fan Here - Game Discussion
Jul 31, 2025, 10:47 PM
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Cluck away never was and never will be!!!
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Jul 23, 2025, 12:54 PM
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The key to the game is our Dline pushing the pocket and disrupting Nuss....if that doesn't happen it will be a long night. Oh and we know Brown well...he torched us in the bowl game 2 years ago.
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Jul 23, 2025, 1:12 PM
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THIS. The Clemson Defense could not stop a nosebleed last year. Hopefully Allen has taught the defensive players how to set the edge and tackle correctly. Clemson’s defensive front has the potential to be VERY good. Not as good as the front that beat Alabama 44-14 but, still very good. Dabo did get edge rusher Will Heldt out of the portal to help with depth. The secondary is going to have to step up from last year or Clemson is in trouble.
On the offensive side, Klubnik is obviously the starter at QB. We will had to see who wants to be on the two deep at running back. Receiver should be a strength this season. Dabo got receiver Tristan Smith from the portal. Smith transferred from SEMO and seems to be very humble and appreciative of all football player perks starting with the food. The young man has a bunch of Clemson fans pulling for him to be successful. OL coach Matt Luke is transforming the offensive line in a good way. I expect Clemson to go snap to snap in the trenches and will hopefully feed off of the crowd to control the line of scrimmage.
I will be at the game and am excited for kickoff. Go Tigers! (Notice I did not spell it Geaux)!
PS. Clemson’s Memorial Stadium is actually in a valley, thus Death Valley.
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Jul 23, 2025, 3:19 PM
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Technically there is a lot of gangs, crime and “death” in Baton Rouge. So they get part of name. Beautiful campus. My daughter wanted to go there but I have persuaded her to go somewhere safer
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Jul 23, 2025, 3:26 PM
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Right and we don't do that if Nuss knits a sweater back there.
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Jul 24, 2025, 12:50 PM
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I dunno bruh I think we should try to keep them from scoring more points than us😁
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Jul 23, 2025, 12:59 PM
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Thanks for the insight! I’m really looking forward to the game. Clemson and LSU sound like they have scarily similar offenses, even down to the players and tendencies. I will say I am confident in clemson’s offensive line this year.
You guys have a ton of speed at receiver, our defensive back field’s strength seems to be man coverage. Will be interesting to watch that game within the game
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Jul 23, 2025, 1:04 PM
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What are your possible weaknesses and where are you concerned?
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Jul 23, 2025, 1:10 PM
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OL - We have to replace 4 starters who were all drafted. We have abunch of highly touted guys to replace them but not much experience.
On defense I'd say we don't know how good DT will be. again we think we have good players but they haven't played that much. Safety is the other concern but I am less concerned about them because I think Spears and Haulcey will be good this season.
For this game specifically, our biggest weakness is Brian Kelly in openers. He never seems to know which players should be starting. 3 years in a row we are unprepared for the opener and half the starters are different players by week 4. Especially given how many options we have on defense, I fear he will pick the wrong players to start once again.
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Re: LSU Fan Here - Game Discussion
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Jul 23, 2025, 7:32 PM
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Yall have lost 5 straight openers, hopefully on August 30, 2025 our Clemson Tigers will make it LSWho 6th straight opener lost! ! !
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Jul 23, 2025, 11:20 PM
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Thanks for the history lesson. I hope yall don’t.
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How big is Garrett Nussmeier and can LSU run for more than 1,500 yards this year
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Jul 23, 2025, 1:18 PM
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and take some of the pressure off of Nussmeier and the passing game.
I know Nussmeier has talked in the offseason about being more productive with his legs, but does he have the feet and athleticism to actually get that done?
Thanks for the info.
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Re: How big is Garrett Nussmeier and can LSU run for more than 1,500 yards this year
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Jul 23, 2025, 1:22 PM
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Nuss is 6'2 200. He is plenty athletic enough to tuck it and run when its open. He will never be Jayden Daniels keeping zone reads but he can pick up 8-10 if the defense vacates the middle.
And yes I believe we will be better at running the ball. We brought in Alex Atkins to diversify our running game plus CAden Durham is a stud and is 100% healthy. He played iwth 2 broken toes all last year. PLus having WRs that can stretch the field deepwill also help. Last year defenses could stay close because we didn't have any deep threats.
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Let's see, let me get all your information together, I'm having dinner with Dabo
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Jul 23, 2025, 1:22 PM
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and the Coordinators this evening, in case there is something they may be missing!!
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Re: Let's see, let me get all your information together, I'm having dinner with Dabo
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Jul 23, 2025, 1:23 PM
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If your coaches are relying on message board fans, yall are in more trouble than you think. lol
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Re: LSU Fan Here - Game Discussion
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Jul 23, 2025, 1:23 PM
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Thanks for the info.
I believe Clemson DL vs. LSU OL will prove to be the most consequential matchup in this game. Clemson's front has game-wrecking potential, both off the edge and inside.
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Jul 23, 2025, 1:24 PM
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Question: Why did yall struggle as a defense last year if yall had so much individual talent on the DL? Genuine question, not a troll.
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Jul 23, 2025, 1:29 PM
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I don't know. It's a fair question. Probably contributed to Dabo's decision to make a change at DC.
The addition of Heldt at DE is big, as well. We didn't have anyone opposite Parker last year.
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Jul 23, 2025, 2:01 PM
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Clemson has the players and the DC to be successful this year. Penn State had one of the best defenses in the nation last season. Dabo hired their defensive coordinator.
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Coaching. We did not have the killer instinct with Goodwin at the helm. Allen is a very intense guy, we are hoping that this will be the biggest improvement this year.
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Jul 23, 2025, 1:39 PM
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Coaching(period)- Tackling and setting the edge were killers!!!
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Our defensive coordinator was out of his league and should’ve never been promoted by Dabo. Peter Woods was playing out of position bc we didn’t have a good edge. Woods is a DL not a DE. He was also injured last season for several game.
This is why we brought in Will Heldt.
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Gap integrity and setting the edge. Mental issues were the killer, and not the physical side of it. I also believe that Barret Carter was a MASSIVE liability that led to more than 50% of touchdowns scored in the red zone.
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Jul 23, 2025, 4:05 PM
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Don’t forget the inability to tackle correctly.
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1. Lack of a second DE. Peter Woods got moved to DE where his strengths lie on disrupting on the inside. Will heldt coming rectifies this and moves Woods back inside.
2. Injuries. Woods got hurt the second game of the year and was never the same. Capehart was injured. The DL was decimated to the point it was getting pushed around by the Citadel.
3. The biggest was out DC. Apparently a genius analyst, but boy did he struggle on game day. Could not adjust or would make confusing adjustments out of nowhere. I’ve never seen Dabo question what we were doing in on field interviews quite like he did with Wes Goodwin. The misuse of talent is what got him canned.
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I always felt like for some reason Carter struggled a lot. I think that may have been coaching and not as much on the player but you never know.
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I agree
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I suspect he will show out in the NFL.
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DEFINITELY the DC. Should be MUCH better this season. If it is as we expect . . the difference will be great.
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Experience vs less experience is what the key for me was going in. Talent for talent is pretty much equal. But with the newcomers on the OL and WR core(and young RB) for LSU, it could take a lil time to gel on offense. I see LSU much like ND last year with a new group of talented guys on offense.....loss to N Ill, then got clicking and ran the table to the National Title game, they're going to be really good, question is....when will they gel. Clemson has to take advantage of the experience aspect of it, they both know what they have at QB, but I think the battle will be decided with the LSU OL vs the Clemson DL matchup.
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Please ask Brian Kelly to refrain from cussing .. there will be children present***
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Jul 23, 2025, 2:56 PM
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Thank you for posting. Very helpful, insightful, and you sound like a good guy.
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Jul 23, 2025, 3:22 PM
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You may be correct when the game comes around but I wouldn't be so certain your defense will be better than ours. We have a ton of new pieces so its definitely possible that they don't play all that well but we upgraded our defensive personell a ton from last year and its possible they play much better than what we had a year ago. Your defense added a single player so its basically the same group that couldn't stop the run and had LBer and secondary issues. Maybe your new DC fixes all of that but its just as much of an uncertainty as ours. Both teams have talented individual players on D, it'll be about who can get their talent to play to its ability.
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Jul 23, 2025, 4:02 PM
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You're correct that our defense had problems stopping the run last year, but if you go back and look at why we had trouble, it was all attributable to coaching and player discipline - correctable issues. We have a new DC who's fundamental philosophies aligned exactly with our flaws.
The issues were primarily on the edge and were the result of bad angles and poor tackling form. The middle problem was failure of LBs to fill the right gap and again bad angles and poor tackling form.
I'd bet that a few things have been said to the defense a thousand times a day since Tom Allen showed up: "Lead", "Contain" and "Wrap up". Any player CAN learn those concepts and if they just WON'T then they'll be on the bench with this coach and others will play.
We have plenty of talent to play good defense....  ">">">
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Well sure. If you go back and look at our defense the coaching was great, it was the Jimmys and Joes that were the issue. We now have the Jimmys and Joes so by your logic we addressed our problem and our defense is also fixed. The reality is that both teams did things to address their issues on that side of the ball but neither is a guaranteed immediate fix and could take time to gel. Its not far fetched to say yall could have some communication or assignment issues when running a brand new defensive scheme in the first game. See, I can also use message board logic to paint a picture of why our solutions will work better than yours but the reality is, neither of us will know until the game is played. SO its better to say these were our problems and this is how we are trying to fix them, I hope it works rather than outright declaring all problems solved on our end but not on yours.
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Re: I think you mean you hope.
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Jul 23, 2025, 4:53 PM
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Like I said, you can message board logic all you want. Both sides are hoping their solution works.
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Re: I think you mean you hope.
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If this game comes down to QB play and kicking game, who do you think has the edge?
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Re: I think you mean you hope.
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Jul 23, 2025, 5:33 PM
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I forgot to add that Dabo will out coach Kelly by a country mile.
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Re: I think you mean you hope.
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Jul 23, 2025, 5:47 PM
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Dabo couldn't out coach Coach O so I'm not sure this is true. He seems like a great program builder but I'm not so sure he's great on gameday. Very good? yes. Great? I don't think so.
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Re: I think you mean you hope.
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Jul 23, 2025, 11:31 PM
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I could have coached the Joe Burrow team to the title. I was at the game in New Orleans. That LSU team was stacked top to bottom. Burrow went first in draft, five total first round draft picks, and 14 overall picks. The only team that has done better is Georgia with one more overall pick. I am surprised that you brought up that game because once the stud players left, LSU got rid of coach O.
Dabo is more battle tested that Kelly. He is excellent with clock management and what is going on with the game. You mentioned yourself that Kelly is off at game one. Dabo will not be off. He will be laser focused and ready to go.
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May I remind you of the Duke game last year?
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Jul 24, 2025, 12:57 PM
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Re: I think you mean you hope.
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I'm not sure I would base a claim that Dabo can outcoach Brian Kelly based on a sample size of 1 game that compares Dabo and Coach O. By that logic, then a comparison of Coach O versus any coach that LSU played against in 2019 would suggest that Coach O was a better coach than all of those coaches (such as Nick Saban and Kirby Smart).
However, if you are going to compare the actual coaches of this game to one another, Dabo is 3-1 versus Brian Kelly across multiple seasons. Seems like he does just fine on gameday versus Brian Kelly teams.
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Re: I think you mean you hope.
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QB Play is fairly even. I get why you would probably pick Klubnik but I wouldn't trade Nuss for anyone. The kids got whatever "it" is.
Kicking game - We have a 3 year starter at Kicker that is money from about 45 yards and in. He doesn't have the strongest leg beyond that though. We have a backup kicker with an absolute boot but they never let him kick FGs. Our punter is a transfer so I am not sure how good he will be.
Now when it comes to returners, we have Barion Brown and you do not.
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Re: I think you mean you hope.
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Jul 23, 2025, 11:39 PM
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I have big question marks concerning the Clemson kicking game. I hope the game does not come down to a kick. As far as returns, keep an eye on Adam Randall. He has switched positions from receiver to running back and has the potential to be nasty on returns. Another fun story to follow is that of Ian Schieffelin. Ian played four year on the Clemson basketball team and is now going to play tight end. Dabo attends a lot of the Clemson basketball games and wanted Ian on the team for his size and athleticism.
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Re: I think you mean you hope.
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Jul 24, 2025, 9:24 AM
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I love that someone is finally name dropping players and giving me some insight to players other than Klubnik, Woods, and Parker. I honestly didn't realize yall had history with Barion Brown which is why ZI even mentioned him. I'm sure he will be a good returner and have arole on offense but after coming here, I may have underestimated how good that kid could be for us this year.
I love a good basketball convert. Treydez Green, our TE was a BBall player too. He converted in HS but he played basketball for LSU for a stretch last year. Had an awesome shot block turned into a dunk too.
When it comes to FGs though, my main concern is the snapper. We have a new one this year but last year our snapper got the yips.
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Re: I think you mean you hope.
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Jul 25, 2025, 1:18 AM
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I sure hope QB play isn't even. if it is, Klub had a terrible day.
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Re: I think you mean you hope.
Jul 25, 2025, 12:46 PM
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Klubnik and Nuss had similar stats last year and their only common opponent was SOuth Carolina where Nuss's offense scored 36 while Klubnik's only scored 14. LSU also won our game. Not trying to start anything but you took a shot at Nuss so I am just defending my QB. Its fine to like your guy better but don't act like our guy is a scrub.
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These goobers were saying the same thing before we played UGA last year. All big and bad and then reality hit.
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Re: I think you mean you hope.
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Jul 24, 2025, 6:30 AM
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This isn’t last year because Goodwin is gone. The question now is will Cade be turned loose like he was the second half of the Texas game.
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Re: I think you mean you hope.
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Jul 24, 2025, 8:25 AM
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If you can’t see how this team is dramatically different from that team, nobody can help you.
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Re: I think you mean you hope.
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Jul 24, 2025, 9:25 AM
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As an LSU fan, I can't see how its dramatically different but I would love to be educated.
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Its very simple
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Jul 24, 2025, 9:36 AM
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Watch the last five minutes of our game against the game chickens last year, or even the Citadel.
Then watch Penn State’s defense against Ohio State or SMU.
The difference will be obvious.
We now have a defensive coordinator. And a Clemson legend coaching linebackers.
Oh yeah, and four future NFL players across the Dline, at least two linebackers,and at least a couple in the secondary.
Not to mention that all that talent on defense and on offense will be better this year. Our Oline will probably be the best since Danny Ford days,
It probably doesn’t help y’all that your head coach just poked 80,000 Tigers by calling us “Death Valley Junior”. Good luck with that.
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Re: Its very simple
Jul 24, 2025, 10:29 AM
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1) You have the DC but you don't have the Penn State players that fit his scheme so perfectly. Maybe the DC fixes everything but sometimes guys are bad tacklers and DCs can't tackle for them.
2) you had all these players last year and weren't very good. Again, maybe the DC does fix it all but its not a guarantee like you are trying to say. Sometimes it takes a few games for the players to fully understand the scheme or sometimes it takes a little bit for the DC to fully understand his players strengths.
LSU, for example, has a defense littered with future NFL players as well. As a fan, I hope that these players will come in and be a pretty big improvement on the future insurance salesman that we had on the defense last year. BUT its not a guarantee that they will all gel right away or that they will all live up to the hype.
My point that I have tried to make a few times in this thread is that in the offseason, every move seems like the best move and every player is gonna make the leap to being their best selves. When the bullets start flying, it rarely works out that everyone is as good as your offseason logic told you they should be.
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If you say so
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Jul 24, 2025, 3:54 PM
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You asked a question. I answered it. You dismiss the answer. That's your prerogative.
In one off season Tom Allen was able to completely transform Penn State's defense. He's in an even better situation than at PSU. But yeah, the D may suck as badly as last year's. You say maybe. I say no chance.
And all that talent that gave Texas all they wanted is a year older. We lost virtually nobody off of last year's team.
But I suppose none of them will be better, either. Not our QB, nor our Oline, nor all of our receivers who return, nor all of our DLine that returns, same with LBs and DBs.
And since we're Death Valley Junior, I'm sure LSU will just waltz in and beat our pathetic little ACC butts, because...well, it just means less.
Typical SEC myopia and arrogance.
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Re: If you say so
Jul 25, 2025, 12:53 PM
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I never said no one would be better. Just that in the offseason fans think EVERYONE will be better and thats rarely the case.
Also I haven't once mentioned the SEC in any of my posts and have not once stated that our roster or conference or whatever is better than yalls yet a few of yall have called me "SEC aarogant" . If you read the actual posts in this thread all the arrogance in this thread is coming from a few posters on yalls side.
I have said nothing other than I like our team but hate the matchup since we have so many new faces. The only times I have said anything that can be construed as negative about Clemson has been when pushing back against the narrative that your defense will take major leaps but our won't. And even when pushing back I admit that its possible that happenes but not a guarantee.
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That's fair, I suppose
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In none of my posts did I broach the subject of whether LSU could win. I was simply discussing Clemson, specifically our defense. LSU is loaded with talent, resources, tradition and a good coach. It's very much within the realm of possibility that LSU wins. I think Clemson has a slightly better team and will have a significant home field advantage.
For what it's worth, I think y'all will crush us next year in Red Stick. We will lose way too much.
Since you're deep in the heart of SEC country, and we are too...but aren't SEC, you have to understand how weary the rest of the country gets of hearing "SEC, SEC, SEC". And when it's chanted by the Chickens, and Mississippi State, Kentucky, Auburn, Arkansas and ESPN (CONSTANTLY!!), it gets old. Very old.
I respect the ACC for many reasons, not least is a long and proud tradition in academics and sports. But we don't chant for our conference just because our team may suck that year. Seems weird to those outside the SEC, and a little pathetic, honestly.
So, I appreciate your tone. When you live around obnoxious Chickens and Dawgs, you just expect a certain amount of douchebaggerie when SEC people show up. Thanks for not being a dbag.
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Its odd how youre spending your time here trying to
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Jul 24, 2025, 10:02 PM
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poke holes of doubt about our team or our confidence in them.
Doesn’t really go along with the spirit of your stopping by as a friendly. It sounds a lot like you’re begrudgingly responding so as not to tell us what you really think. Insecurity vibes.
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Jul 25, 2025, 12:59 PM
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All the holes that I am poking are in direct response to what are essentially guarantees of improvement by your team and/or dismissing LSU's possible improvements. Why is having a debate unfriendly?
I have not called anyone names or posted about anything other than the game and the teams. I am sorry if an opposing fan not blindly agreeing to every point your fan base presents as fact offends you. I am just discussing the game and the teams and giving push back where I see possible fallacy.
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Re: Its very simple
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The new DC doesn't have to be perfect. We were so bad last year in coaching that the ability of the players didn't shine. Just wait and see . . .
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Re: I think you mean you hope.
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Simple for us I think: Our D must live up to the new expectations. If our D that played Usc, Texas or Smu is the def we see we are in trouble. If the Off that played Texas shows up and that is what is expected we are going to be good but if the Off that played Usuck shows up we are in trouble.
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You came here to measage board-splain
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so forgive me for calling you out for giving it back.
Hope can drive a man crazy.
Enjoy the game, corndog.
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Re: LSU Fan Here - Game Discussion
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Too much to read. Enjoy your visit. Hope our defense is greatly improved. People at Clemson are generally nice so please tell anyone you know that’s coming to behave.
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Re: LSU Fan Here - Game Discussion
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I thought Clemson guys were smart, reading shouldn't be hard for you lol
As for our fans, the ones that travel tend to be the classier fans that can afford it. Its the BR and swamp trash that never went to any college let alone LSU that tend to be the problem.
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Re: LSU Fan Here - Game Discussion
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I can see that. Reasonable. That whole neck thing though is a bad look. Really didn’t read it all though. I sincerely believe and hope it’s a memorable visit.
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Re: LSU Fan Here - Game Discussion
Jul 23, 2025, 5:01 PM
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Yes. Neck is the worst thing that trash balls won't let die.
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Re: LSU Fan Here - Game Discussion
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Barion Brown made us look pretty bad a couple years ago in a bowl game. Not looking forward to dealing with him again.
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Re: LSU Fan Here - Game Discussion
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Let’s just SPOT the BALL and we are playing the the REAL Death Valley!
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Check out my board name.
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I came here over 20 years ago during the coaching carousel (when they hired Tommy Bowden away from your area of the country, Tulane).
Been here every since. Nice board. Stick around even after the game. You might enjoy it.
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TLDR
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Welcome to Death Valley
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Re: LSU Fan Here - Game Discussion
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If anyone wanted to return the favor and give a position by position breakdown of Clemson, I would greatly appreciate it!
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Re: LSU Fan Here - Game Discussion
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QB - Garrett Nussmeir is a very good college QB on the verge of being Elite. He has the poise and moxie that you can’t teach and plays the position with great anticipation. He is also more athletic than his numbers show. For whatever reason, he seemed to think it was against the rules for a QB to run until the Ole Miss game last season. Not that he ran a ton after that but he at least ran every now and then. His biggest weakness last year was trusting his presnap reads and getting tricked into throwing INTs. But when he is dialed in and slinging it, he is a tough QB to go against. Nuss vs Klubnik is gonna be a #### of a dual.
RB - Caden Durham is our starter and will get the lions share of the reps. He is short and stocky and has great burst and track speed but his greatest asset is that he is slippery and rarely seems to get tackled by the first defender. I think Durham having a productive game is of the utmost importance for LSU’s chances. Kaleb Jackson is our power back. He has a ton of raw ability but last year vision and patience were a huge issue for him. Harlem Berry is our other RB that might play. He’s a 5 star freshman who is uber athletic but I am not sure how much he will play in the opener.
WR - we have 4 WRs that will likely be our main players here. This is a unit that, on paper, is greatly improved from last year. Our 2 returning WRs are Aaron Anderson and Chris Hilton. Anderson is a small, shifty slot who was probably our best WR last year. He is at his best underneath making plays with his feet after the catch. Hilton was hurt most of last year and really only played the final 2 games healthy. He had over 100 yards in each of those games and 3 TDs. He is very fast and is the deep threat that we sorely missed most of last season. If he stays healthy, I think he will be our top guy. The 2 newcomers are Nic Anderson and Barion Brown. Anderson is 6’4 220 and had an extremely productive freshman year at OU with over 800 yards and averaged over 20 yards per catch. I am not really sure what he will give LSU out of the gate because he missed all of last season with a knee injury. If he is at 100%, he could be a very dangerous piece for Nuss. Barion Brown is from Kentucky and is extremely fast. He has never played with a good QB so his WR stats don’t jump out at you. He does, however, have 5 kickoff returns for TDs. That’s an insane number. He is kind of the wild card because we don’t know exactly how he will fit in or what he will give us but he definitely has the athletic ability to make an impact. The good news is that we have 4 seemingly high quality WRs on paper and when you have that many, it makes it difficult for the defense to take them all away. Now we all know that what seems great on paper doesn’t always work out in reality but it does seem like a deep and talented group.
TE - we have 2 TEs that will play. Bauer Sharp is a transfer from OU that will most likely be our typical hand in the dirt TE. He is pretty athletic and has good size and good experience as well. I’m sure he will be somewhat of a factor in the passing game but he is probably 6th or 7th on the list of mouths to feed. Our other TE is Treydez Green. He is a 6’7 245 lb freak of an athlete. There is zero doubt in my mind that he will be a solid part of our offense as a receiver. The big question mark for him is if he can block well enough to remain on the field the majority of the time.
OL - On offense, this is the group where LSU has the biggest question mark. And going against your DL out of the gate, isn’t great for us. Now from a pure talent standpoint point, we should be able to field a solid OL. The issue is they don’t have much experience, if any at all. My guess on the starters are LT Tyree Adams, LG DJ Chester, C Braelin Moore, RG Josh Thompson, RT Weston Davis. All of these guys were either top 100 recruits or highly sought after transfers but only Chester started for LSU last year and that was at C. He was not a very good C as he had trouble with being the game manager and then doing his assignment. The hope is that as a guard he can be a better blocker since he won’t have to think as much. The tackles are both young but both are big and athletic. They have quite the task ahead of them though. The other 2 guys are both transfers and have a lot of experience, just at other schools. We have a few reserves such as Carius Curne, Coen Echols, and Solomon Thomas that could rotate in but I think the 5 I mentioned will start. Thai group could make or break us on opening day. We don’t need them to dominate (they likely won’t) but we need them to hold their own.
DE - this room (again on paper) has been upgraded from last year. We brought in Jack Pyburn from Florida and Patrick Payton from FSU. Pyburn is your typical crazy white boy that plays with a contagious energy level. He is great against the run but has never been able to show whatever can do on 3rd downs. Payton, on the other hand, is a long athletic pass rusher but is not known for his run defense. Behind them we have Gabriel Reliford and Jimari Butler from Nebraska. I think Reliford will be the main reliever at DE. He’s a good all around DE with good size and speed. It wouldn’t surprise me if he starts and Payton comes on in pass rusher situations or something like that. Butler is a veteran 5th year guy who has been productive but not dominant at Nebraska. I’m sure he will play some but I think he is behind the other 3.
DT - The starters will most likely be Jacobian Guillory and Dominic McKinkey. Guillory is a 5th year guy that is coming off of a knee injury. If he is 100% then he is a solid nose that’s difficult to move and can be disruptive at times. McKinley is a former 5 star and is expected to break out this year. Behind them we have 3 guys: Ahmad Breaux, Bernard Gooden, and Sydir Mitchell. Breaux is a solid depth piece who will always do his job but didn’t wow last year. Very technically sound. Gooden is a transfer from USF where he graded out really well on PFF but he’s pretty small at 6’1 280. Mitchell is a monster of a man at 6’6 350. He was at Texas last year and didn’t play much but he’s pretty small had a great spring so it’s possible that he factors in this season. This is probably our most unknown group on defense. We have a lot of guys that on paper look good but none that have actually done it.
LB - the starters at the traditional LBer will be Whit Weeks and most likely Dahvon Keys. Weeks is the best player on this defense. He’s an absolute stud and just an incredible kid all around. He did break his ankle in our bowl game so there is a chance that it slows him but he claims to be at 100% and ready to go. Keys broke into the lineup toward the end of last season and played really well. He is a guy that I am excited to see take a leap (hopefully) in year 2. The main backup will be West Weeks, whits older brother. He is a good but not great LBer. No one would ever complain if he started but his ceiling isn’t all that high. We have a bunch of highly recruited freshman and RS FR behind these 3 but I don’t think we will see any of them. Maybe Jaden Braker but he’s a true FR so I’m not sure. This is also the only position group on the team other than RB where we didn’t take a transfer.
Star - Harold Perkins is our star. This position is kind of a hybrid LBer, Safety. Perkins will be able to cover underneath or come off the edge from this spot. We have tried to make him a traditional LBer but he struggles to shed OL when taking them head on from a stand still and we lose his crazy athleticism in such a tight space. He is also coming off a knee injury but is also thought to be 100%. Perkins excelling at the star position could make this defense extremely good (I don’t want to say elite).
CB - we have 5 guys that could play here. I think the starters will be Mansoor Delane from VT and DJ Pickett a 5 star FR. Delane is very experienced and was the alpha in the room during the spring. He is also being trained as a safety in case he is needed there. Pickett is 6’4 and very athletic. During spring he was being compared to Derek Stingley who was a freshman all American and All SEC for us in 2019. If he lives up to that hype, we will be more than solid at CB. The other 3 that w have are Jahkeem Jackson, Ashton Stamps, and PJ woodland. Jackson was a starter at Florida before getting hurt last year. He seems to be a high ceiling guy and his emergence could move Delane to Safety depending on how it goes at that position. Stamps started every game for us last year. He is a solid CB but struggled when the ball was in the air. Woodland hasn’t played as much but the coaches love him.
Safety - I think the starters will be Deshawn Spears and AJ Haulcey. Spears played a good bit as a freshman last year, is long and athletic and seemed to turn the corner in spring. Haulcey is a senior from Houston and was all Big12 last season. He plays with a mean streak and seems to be a playmaker. Tamarcus Cooley is the other safety that will probably play. He was a highly sought after transfer from NCST but he mostly played nickel corner last year so he is adjusting to playing a true safety spot. Jardin Gilbert was a starter for us last year and is also in this room but I’d be surprised if he is a large part of this team. I’m sure he’ll play but idk how much
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Barion Brown was a problem for us in
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2023, despite the win.
He had three TDs including a 100 yard Kickoff return. We finally shut him down in the 4th but for most of the game he was Kentuckys offense.
He's a little shifty, mouthy menace for sure.
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Re: LSU Fan Here - Game Discussion
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First of all, when coming over to T-Net you must know that our FB stadium is the first and only D E A T H-V A L L E Y! ! !
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Re: LSU Fan Here - Game Discussion
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Jul 23, 2025, 7:35 PM
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Nice write up. My first ever Clemson game was the 1996 Peach Bowl.
I think both teams have similar offenses. I'm hoping our DLine experience and talent can exploit the new starters ya'll have at tackles. Like you said, the talent is there, but I'm hoping with it being game one on the road, that will be a huge mismatch.
Next year will be interesting too, with two new starting QBs.
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i can tell you one thing for sure. YOu won't hear a single Clemson
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Jul 23, 2025, 7:35 PM
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player or fan singing a song telling you to " suk their tiger dic% "
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Horrible
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If our fans ever devolve to something like that, I will grieve, deeply.
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Re: i can tell you one thing for sure. YOu won't hear a single Clemson
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We just have people inserting “m-fing” into the fight song. Loud enough it comes through on the tv broadcasts. We shouldn’t sling any mud until we get that fixed.
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Couldn't agree more
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Embarrassing. Class is on life support.
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Re: TL DR: Yada Yada Yada corn dogs***
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Much love from one Tigers fan to another
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We welcome you to Clemson, thanks for info for the scout team. 363 1/2 days this year we love you guys and wish you well but on game day the battle will take place in Death Valley(we are flattered that y’all chose to copy Clemson)
We hope our players have learned to play football over the summer, we workout but enjoy our time off Fishing(Spud).
We don’t have any players to hype, we are just hoping to hold our own with 2 & 3 star grinders. We hope to hold it close during the first drives and then began to play Like our Tigers always do at home. Enjoy Clemson but I wouldn’t expect to go home with a win in the first game as usual.
We’ll still love you guys after the game and be appreciative of the good competition. Hopefully, we can meet again in the playoffs if the sec gauntlet isn’t toooo much!!
Go Tigers 🐅🐅🐅🐅🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
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Re: Much love from one Tigers fan to another
Jul 24, 2025, 10:42 AM
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I hope our players learned to football too!
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Thanks for all the info - I asked on this board about Nuss...
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Jul 24, 2025, 10:22 AM
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I haven't watched any LSU games so I was curious about the hype around Nuss and some posters were nice enough to post some commentary:
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9kgzja
https://www.tiktok.com/@proteinandplays/video/7508795370940484910
I have no opinion of my own and these guys might be nonsense, no idea. But they both bring up his LACK of poise in the pocket, and I was interested what you thought about that? The second link guy in particular says that he's got great arm strength but bad footwork, he's "a rock in the pocket" (immobile), and scared in the pocket.
LSU's receivers will be interesting to watch. Lots of talent and speed, as you say, but also lots of injuries. I'm skeptical that Nic Anderson can come into Death Valley to open a season after missing all of 2024, most of Spring Practice and having just had an auto accident. I just don't know that he'll be dialed in, but we shall see. Brown will be very interesting to watch - very fast and now with a better QB. Definitely have to watch out for him, both at WR and returns.
Your comment on your RB brings up another thing to watch - can our defense tighten up on our tackling. We just weren't crisp on that last year and of course it cost us.
No surprise, I agree with most of the comments on here that the biggest effect on the game will be Clemson DL vs LSU OL. If Nuss still has lead feet, I assume we will bring a lot of pressure. No doubt LSU's coaches are expecting that and game planning for quick outs to keep the bodies off of Nuss but that won't optimize the speed advantage and won't result in touchdowns consistently.
Anyway, enjoy the game and thanks again for posting.
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Re: Thanks for all the info - I asked on this board about Nuss...
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I could not think of a less accurate description of Nuss. He is very poised, has great feet, and is never scared in the pocket. He also isn't immobile, he just never ran. Nuss picking his spots to run was a focal point this offseason. Did he get over zealous at times last year and try to force the ball? Yes but hopefully that lessens with experience. Go watch the 4th quarter and OT vs Ole Miss and tell me if he looks scared in the pocket. This link is a Todd McShay write up that describes Nuss's strenghths pretty well. No he is not Jayden Daniels or even Klubnik when it comes to mobility but he isn't Joe Flacco (from a mobility standpoint) either.
https://mcshay-report.beehiiv.com/p/scouting-lsu-qb-garrett-nussmeier-could-he-be-qb1-in-2026
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Re: LSU Fan Here - Game Discussion
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Jul 24, 2025, 10:32 AM
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I believe, like most here, that the key to this game for Clemson is tackling and secondly, pressuring your WB and not letting him be comfortable in the pocket. If y’all run the ball well and complete quick passes to your tight ends or screens, we will have a hard time winning.
The 3 biggest things I see in Clemson’s favor are these:
1. Y’all have a lot of new starters and transfers that haven’t played a lot, at least in an LSU uniform. We return A LOT of starters and experienced players.
2. Coaching. Sorry, but never have been a fan of BK.
3. Home field. I am glad in this home and home series we get to play in the real Death Valley first.
Good luck. If you are attending the game I would welcome you to stop by our tailgate. Most Clemson fans would as well, as long as y’all behave reasonably.
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Jul 24, 2025, 10:41 AM
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I think all of your points are fair. I do think Kelly gets a bad wrap from outsiders. I don't think he's the greatest coach ever but I do think he is a very good one. NOW if he misses the playoffs with this team, I will lose some faith. Like you said, there are a lot of new faces so IDK that I'd crucify him for losing the opener but he has to get this very talented group to play well by mid season and make a run at the playoffs.
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Re: LSU Fan Here - Game Discussion
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Jul 24, 2025, 3:55 PM
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My dislike for Kelly goes back to ND. Hard to believe he couldn’t win there. The accent and dancing when he first arrived at LSU didn’t do anything to change my mind.
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Re: LSU Fan Here - Game Discussion
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Jul 24, 2025, 11:23 AM
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Why don't yall like to actually discuss your team? There are 45 replies in this thread other than mine and only 7 players have been mentioned (Klunbnik, Parker, Heldt, Woods, Randall, Shieflan, and Smith). Your 4 stars and 3 role players Even when these players are mentioned almost zero info about them follows. So that leads me to believe one of 4 things:
1) Yall don't actually know much about your team and just have blind faith in Dabo to give you a winning product. I find this to be hard to believe because you can't frequent a message board about a program without getting into the nitty gritty. Message board fans know what players ate for breakfast.
2) You have a very top heavy team that has a few stars but are fairly average beyond that. I also find this hard to believe because you did well last season for the most part and have most of that team returning.
3) Yall think telling an opposing fan about your team will somehow give LSU an advatage. Which is silly. College programs pay an army of people to breakdown teams and have advanced statistics on everything. Nothing a fan can say on a message board will be breaking news to anyone who does this for a living.
4) I guess its possible that yall just don't care to talk about your players as yall view them as cogs in the wheel that is the program. Which seems strange to me as a college football fan but maybe your fan base is different and to each his own.
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I'm surprised no one has given you the deep dive on our roster.
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Jul 24, 2025, 11:30 AM
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Sorry to say, but I fit more in category 1...there are a lot of very knowledgeable fans on this site who can give you a good breakdown of our units, but I am not that man.
I would like to see it though...if only for me to read and because you clearly put a lot of work into your OP write-up.
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Jul 24, 2025, 11:41 AM
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Like i said, to each his own but to me this is like someone being super into cars but never discussing the engine. "its got a good frame (DC), good tires (OC), the BEST driver (HC) and I'm sure the engine (players) is fine too."
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Jul 24, 2025, 11:44 AM
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And the paint's in good shape....
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Jul 24, 2025, 11:50 AM
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Haha fair enough. Despite me not getting my fix of in depth roster discussions yall seem like a good group over here. I hope to also have a coach that I can blindly trust to give me a winning product.
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Jul 24, 2025, 1:08 PM
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Pole position is ALL I care about...ALL IN!!! GO TIGERS!!!
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Re: LSU Fan Here - Game Discussion
Jul 24, 2025, 11:40 AM
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Yes, #4.... Our fan base is different - as is our school.
We know what we've got. You'll find out soon enough..... ">
Meanwhile, there's a door on the way out - you can argue with it.... ">
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Jul 24, 2025, 11:43 AM
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You most certainly DON'T know what you've got which is proven by the inability to talk about it.
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Jul 24, 2025, 11:52 AM
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Well if you read my post, I don't actually believe that message board fans don't know about their team. My question (and its still a question), WHy don't yall want to talk about your roster?
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Jul 24, 2025, 12:13 PM
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They clearly got you off the short bus with your reading comprehension. I said in my original post that im aware that i could read articles or watch YouTube but message board fans give better info. Plus its more fun to interact with people.
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Re: LSU Fan Here - Game Discussion
Jul 24, 2025, 12:28 PM
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You're good at reading from the short swamp buggy and you said everything you need to know in your first post:
The big difference for LSU is that we need a bunch of new pieces to gel quickly which is a big disadvantage for us, especially given the trend that Brian Kelly takes 3 games to figure out who should be playing.
You answered your own questions right there....">
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Jul 24, 2025, 1:19 PM
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one of my favorite things to do before a big opening weekend matchup is to come to the opposing teams board and tell them about our team and learn about theirs.
You must have missed my first sentance (above) where I said I like to talk about my team and LEARN about yours. I don't need you or anyone else to tell me who will win, they will play the game and that will get sorted out on its own. I just wanted to share info about my team and learn about Clemson's. For the most part everyone besides you has been great, I just noticed that no one actually said anything specific about your team other than you have a new DC so I asked why. For some reason you took offense to that. If you don't want to discuss your team then so be it, I can't make you. But others have been more willing to have a conversation and hopefully one of your nrethren will come along and actually talk shop with me.
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Jul 24, 2025, 1:25 PM
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what is nrethren? My decision to not talk about my team is my choice. Does not mean IDK squat although your OP may differ.
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Jul 24, 2025, 2:07 PM
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Brethren**
I'm aware that I can't make yall discuss your team and even said in my "criticism" that I don't actually believe that no one here knows anything. Message board fans always know their teams in great detail. I just find it strange that no Clemson fans want to talk about your team. People, in general, like to talk about their hobbies and college sports fandom is most definitely a hobby.
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I'm yer Huckleberry
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QB: Klubnik is at least top 5 in the nation, and I'm being VERY conservative.
Oline: 4 returning starters, anchored by 4 year players Tristan Leigh and Blake Miller, who started as a Freshman. Both will be on NFL rosters next year. 5 year player Walker Parks and 4 year player Collin Sadler are 2 of the other positions, with 3 year player Harris Sewell. And a TON of depth behind them all. Additionally, we have arguably the best O-line coach in the nation -- certainly one of the best -- in Matt Luke.
TE: Olsen Patt-Henry and Josh Sapp, both of whom are in their third year in the program and have shown flashes, will attempt to fill some of Briningstool's production from last year. Highly touted 2nd year player, Christian Betancur shows all the signs of being very good, perhaps great. This position is a bit of a question mark, in terms of pass production, but not in terms of other things TEs do. We'll see.
Receivers: If there was ever a year that we could afford some dropoff at TE, this is the year. We have three bona fide great receivers in Antonio Williams, Bryant Wesco, and T.J. Moore. Additionally, we get Tyler Brown back, who was a Freshman All American 2 years ago, but was injured last year. Finally, we brought in one of our three transfers, 6'5" Tristan Smith. All he did was dominate the Spring game. We're not deep behind them, but the starters are as good as any in the nation.
RB: Certainly a question mark, but I believe there are definite answers. We brought in the #3 RB in the nation in Gideon Davidson and have second year David Eziomume, who will be a beast and a great 2nd option. Finally, we have 6'2" 225 Adam Randall, a converted WR who is in his fourth year in the program and has a chance to be great. The answers are there.
Now, if you want more, I'm happy to list the Defense. But while you started well on this thread, of late you've begun to turn into a typical SEC troll. So, it's your move. What's it going to be?
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Re: I'm yer Huckleberry
Jul 24, 2025, 4:38 PM
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Finally! Someone who wants to talk ball. I would love a defensive breakdown too.
I did lightly troll to poke the bear and get some interaction but even in that post I noted several times that I didn't believe any of those reasons and knew there were knowledgeable fans that were holdings back. Columbia Tiger was unfriendly so I mirrored what I was getting back. Like I said, most here have been cordial and of course I expected the the real death valley comments. Its an easy point of contention between fanbases that don't play often.
As for your Offenseive breakdown, I do think you're being conservative as I think the top 2 QBs in the country are in this matchup. Drew Allar is the only other thats in this convo. Manning and Lagway might be in this convo by years end but as of now, they haven't done enough to be considered a PREseason top 3 QB.
I am somewhat familiar with Tristan Leigh as LSU recruited him fairly hard. and I agree that Matt Luke is one of the best OL coaches out there. We have an OL coavh that seems to be amongst the best recruiters but last year made me weary of his actual coaching ability. How do you have 4 NFL draft picks on the OL and you can't run block? They wrere possibly the best pass blocking OL I have ever seen though. This year will be interesting because our OL coach is gonna have to earn his money the hard way.
What roles do your WRs play? meaning who is the deep threat, who is a slot, etc? Everyone is focusing on our OL vs your DL which is obviously a key matchup but I think our DBs ability to stick with WRs is the biggest matchup on the other side of the ball. We have individually talented players but we have never seen them play as a unit.
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Re: I'm yer Huckleberry
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Jul 24, 2025, 5:17 PM
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I get the light trolling. We do get tired of hearing the constant SEC propaganda from trolls, especially from the Chickens, so...yeah.
As for our WRs, none of them have blazing straight ahead speed, although they're all adequately fast. What they DO have is the ability to get open, to fight for the ball, high point, and route running ability. Some of the greatest receivers of all time weren't particularly fast (see Jerry Rice, arguably the best ever, but was not a blazer). It helps, but there are other skills needed. Again, the top three were nearly unstoppable last year, and will have another year under their belts. Antonio Williams is projected to be a first round draft pick by many. We've added two more (one from the portal, one back from injury).
As for Defense:
The reason so many mention the DC is because we had INSANE talent last year...but didn't utilize it. Gap integrity, contain, bad angles, and especially tackling were huge weak spots. NOBODY was afraid of our defense last year, as they were when Venables was here. So, we moved on. Clemson legend Ben Boulware came back to coach LBs and bring intensity. Tom Allen's track record speaks for itself. It's not orange colored glasses to think that the fear will return this year. Can't underestimate that kind of intimidation.
DLine:
Peter Woods is arguably the best down lineman in the nation. The pundits certainly think so, and his numbers back it up. He will be quicker and angrier this season, as he looks to the NFL. Beside him will be Demonte Capehart, a former blue chipper who moves into a full-time role this year. Those two will be a handful for anyone. There is depth and talent behind them and Clemson cycles players in a LOT. At DE, we also have arguably the best DE in the nation, as well, in TJ Parker. He has everything: quickness, strength, and an unstoppable motor. Opposing teams will have to pick their poison between Woods and Parker. At the other DE is Will Heldt, considered one of the best transfers in this class who was absolutely dominant...at Purdue. Imagine what he will do on a good defense! There isn't as much depth behind them as we would like, but there's unproven talent, and some experience. Serious injuries at this position could be a problem, honestly.
LBs:
Wade Woodaz returns as a Senior, and the coach-on-the-field. He has speed and a ton of football IQ, but suffered some from poor coaching last year. That will not be a problem this year. And then there's Sammy Brown, a heat seeking missile out of Georgia who almost led the team in tackles in his true Freshman year...with hundreds fewer snaps. Additionally, we brought our third guy from the portal to help at this position: former 5 star from Bama, Jeremiah Alexander. Early reports are that he will be unstoppable at LB. This position will go from a weakness to a strength in one season. There's not a ton of experience behind those three, but there is talent. Again, key injuries could be a problem.
DBs:
Aveion Terrell (AJ's brother) is in his third year starting at CB and will be in the NFL this time next year. Opposite him are Shelton Lewis (third year) and fourth year Jeadyn Lukus. If those guys continue their trajectory, one -- or both -- might end up playing on Sundays, as well. We had too many PIs last year, but our CB coach is one of our best, so I'm confident they'll take the next step. Ashton Hampton burst onto the scene as a true Freshman as well. There's depth, talent, and experience.
S:
We lost a big piece in RJ Mickens, but the returning experience of Khalil Barnes, Tyler Venables (Brent's son), Kylon Griffin and Ricardo Jones will fill the gap. There may even be a sleeper on the depth chart. Another deep group, though some are untested.
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56 yards to win the ACC championship as a true Freshman. That probably speaks for itself.
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Biggest question mark on our entire team. Who knows if we have answers? It was definitely a weak spot last year, and I'm not confident in this year.
To be honest, though, there are many things different about Clemson. But at the top is that Dabo is the real deal, with an amazing story (Dad in prison, lived in a hotel in high school, walked on at Bama, etc.). Clemson really is a family. That's not smoke and mirrors or PR. And our fan base (generally) is respectful. Not the students, sadly, but most of the rest. Of course this year we add alcohol, so all bets are off. But I could never imagine our fans singing that song that y'all sing. Shameful. Generally speaking, you'll be treated well, unless you show your butt.
I've been a part of this family for 40 years. There's something in these hills...
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I also find the song shameful and get ridiculed by the swamp monsters when I voice that opinion. Many others also share my opinion but the students and bayou rats keep it going as some kind of trashy badge of honor.
Also I never mentioned conferences in any of my posts on purpose because 1) I realize that gets old for others and 2) we haven’t won the NC as a conference for 2 years running. Hard to claim being the best when the trophy is elsewhere.
Should be a great game with plenty of future nfl talent on display from both sides. I hope AJ warns his brother about those LSU WRs, I think Chase just scored again….i kid, I kid. I have to talk a little smack now cuz I honestly don’t love this matchup for us. So many new faces on the road against at minimum a top 5 team. But hey, they play the games for a reason and we have good players too so maybe it’ll go our way.
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I ordered a hat for all my new friends over here. They should arrive at TNET HQ in about a week. Lol
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Appreciate you coming here and being respectful.
I believe that fans of most teams, going into a new season, believe all of their weaknesses from last year are fixed and that all of the other teams will not fix their respective weaknesses.
Objectively Clemson is a very strong team with a great roster. The only (somewhat mild) orange- tinted glasses wishcasting I see, is that our RB room will somehow be a strength and can dominate right out of the gate on game 1….i think it will take about the fist month of the season to sort out and I don’t really trust CJ’s ability to make a viable RB rotation.
We will need to lean heavily on the pass and QB run which might make us one dimensional in some games.
Also I am a bit worried about our safeties.
One thing I am not worried about out is O-Line which should be a strength of the team.
LSU’s O-line seems like a bit of question mark and right now I would think the advantage is with Clemson in this game.
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Jul 31, 2025, 8:53 PM
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Listen corndog nice book we know exactly what LSU fans are obnoxious, SEC loving drunk idiots we played you enough the last couple years to think you come in peace. The last time you're Northern fake Cajun accent coach came into the real Death Valley he lost. We got 4 weeks to we kick your a## so move on corndog.
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Re: LSU Fan Here - Game Discussion
Jul 31, 2025, 10:58 PM
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Hello and welcome. Lots of information there that will be a lot to unpack; much like all those key transfers will need to unpack. Yall have a LOT of unknown and that's for sure. To be honest I've not seen a team with so many transfers at crucial positions since Florida State and we know how that has worked out. I don't know, I guess we will see in a month. I am curious as to if you are attending the game in person.
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