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Is the ACC “organizationally” being held captive…
Aug 7, 2023, 8:55 AM
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…to the GOR by ESPN?
Have we been maligning the ACC management incorrectly by thinking that THEY are the ones unwilling to re-negotiate the GOR?
Is this coming down to ESPN being the bad guys in all of this, holding the ACC management hostage to this GOR?
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The ACC was foolish to sign a long term agreement...
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Aug 7, 2023, 9:09 AM
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that bound the league for 20+ years. It was originally signed in 2013 and updated in 2016 when the ACC Network was created.
That said, I am not convinced the GOR is as "iron clad" as some seem to think, particularly if the ACC provided misleading or categorically false information to coerce the member schools into signing it.
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Re: The ACC was foolish to sign a long term agreement...
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Aug 7, 2023, 9:16 AM
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There's an old saying about being held by the "short hairs". Might apply here. lol
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Re: Is the ACC “organizationally” being held captive…
Aug 7, 2023, 9:20 AM
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There is plenty of blame to be spread around. A huge portion lays at the feet of the Clemson admin for signing it.
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No one made the Presidents sign it!***
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Aug 7, 2023, 9:32 AM
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That's debatable...
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Aug 7, 2023, 12:44 PM
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particularly if the ACC provided misleading or overtly false information to coerce the league members into signing the GOR. That would be tantamount to fraud.
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Re: Is the ACC “organizationally” being held captive…
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Aug 7, 2023, 9:37 AM
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The leader of the ACC agreed to the deal, and each member school agreed and signed the contract deal. There is no one to blame for the dead in the water situation that the ACC has found themselves in but the member school leadership that willfully signed that ridiculous "20 year" GOR contract with ESECPN. And if the ACC comes unglued bc they signed such a ridiculous contract, no one to blame but themselves bc ESECPN made the better deal in any way you look at it!!! I also wouldn't doubt that was intended to happen by ESECPN!!!
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ESPN negotiated a GREAT deal....for ESPN. They have no
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Aug 7, 2023, 9:39 AM
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impetus whatsoever to renegotiate it. At the rate they are bleeding money, they obviously don't care if the ACC implodes. It would save them money in the long run, and the SEC picks the scraps and scoops up the best teams. A win-win for ESPN.
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I think FOX will throw ESPN a bone for a late night window
Aug 7, 2023, 9:41 AM
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for either the B1G or B12.
Not marquee games, but they will outsource some of those.
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Re: Is the ACC “organizationally” being held captive…
Aug 7, 2023, 9:47 AM
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I don’t think anyone in the free market is backing up the Brinks Truck for the ACC. Could the contract be increased? Marginally. But the reality of the situation is some of the parts are worth more than the whole.
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Remember, ESPN does not care about college football
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Aug 7, 2023, 10:34 AM
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beyond what they can squeeze from it for as long as they can.
Nothing about their business practices or their on-air commentary should give anyone the impression that they hold this institution in high regard.
Tradition, fan experience, student athletes...they mean nothing beyond ESPN's ability to monetize them. Actually, worse...every fan in the bleachers is a fan not watching their broadcast. Who needs that?
College football is better with several regional conferences and a post season that puts random schools against each other. College football will not be better...for fans or for student athletes, when gianormous mega-conferences are running it.
So, ESPN will do what makes money...and...they don't have a ton of additional money to throw around. So if the ACC made a bad deal, ESPN isn't going to let them out of it. What does ESPN care? Blow up the conference and sweep them into a couple of manageable super-conferences. That suits them fine.
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Then the ACC should encourage ESPN…
Aug 7, 2023, 3:57 PM
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…to blew up the conference.
ESPN should be encouraging the various schools in the ACC to allow them to COLLECTIVELY disband the conference, and tell the ACC that the GOR would be null and void.
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Re: Is the ACC “organizationally” being held captive…
Aug 7, 2023, 5:11 PM
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…to the GOR by ESPN?
Absolutely!
Have we been maligning the ACC management incorrectly by thinking that THEY are the ones unwilling to re-negotiate the GOR?
No, ACC schools were stupid to sign such a long-term contract with no triggers for regotiation.
Is this coming down to ESPN being the bad guys in all of this, holding the ACC management hostage to this GOR?
No, ESPN is well within their rights and has no reason to renegotiate just because we're unhappy with the consequences of what we agreed to in the GOR. The bad guys are us in this case.
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Re: Is the ACC “organizationally” being held captive…
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Let me amend the first answer:
Is the ACC “organizationally” being held captive to the GOR by ESPN?
No, the ACC is being held captive to the contract they signed with ESPN. Each team is being held captive to the GOR by virtue of their relinquishing those rights to the ACC - who then was trusted to negotiate a favorable contract with ESPN.
The mess we're in is because the ACC failed to negotiate a contract that would allow for a changing set of financial circumstances if the agreement became an albatross.
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