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Is our defense better under Tom Allen...
Nov 1, 2025, 7:02 PM
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as compared to Wes Goodwin. Thoughts???
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Re: Is our defense better under Tom Allen...
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Nov 1, 2025, 7:03 PM
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I would say no. Which has surprised me.
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Re: Is our defense better under Tom Allen...
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Nov 1, 2025, 7:03 PM
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In any postiion group... have they improved ??
DL no
LB no
safeties no
CB ??? status quo
Perhaps Porkchop was good..... What is it with all these firings that turn out to wonder if they were the correct moves. Streeter is another one for Riley that comes to mind.
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National Champion [7828]
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Re: Is our defense better under Tom Allen...
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Nov 1, 2025, 7:04 PM
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There is no area where the defense has been better. None. Actually you could submit the opposite. Everyone has gotten worse.
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Re: Is our defense better under Tom Allen...
Nov 1, 2025, 7:05 PM
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it's all porkchops dudes and dabs coaches. How can you blame the new guy with him handcuffed?
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Game Changer [2061]
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Re: Is our defense better under Tom Allen...
Nov 1, 2025, 7:07 PM
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That's not how the recruiting works. They don't just say well defensive coaches just recruit the defensive players and offensive coaches just recruit the offensive players.
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National Champion [7162]
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Ummmm thats exactly how it works.***
Nov 1, 2025, 7:08 PM
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Re: Ummmm thats exactly how it works.***
Nov 1, 2025, 7:35 PM
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No it's not. Plenty of people on here have mentioned that they assign each coach a region
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Ultimate Tiger [36586]
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Re: Is our defense better under Tom Allen...
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Nov 1, 2025, 7:13 PM
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huh? He has been here one season with 'no' say in coaches, S&C or players currently on the team. I could see the argument for Riley, however, Dabs gave him his staff as well.
This fiasco is all on ol' Dabs. How many more OC/DC hiring fails do we go through before someone realizes the dude at the top is failing to 'earn' the 11.5 million bucks a year?
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Re: Is our defense better under Tom Allen...
Nov 1, 2025, 7:13 PM
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Then Allen gets no credit for Penn State’s defense since it was all of Manny Diaz’s guys, right?
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Re: Is our defense better under Tom Allen...
Nov 1, 2025, 7:07 PM
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It wouldn't change the talent that's on the field.
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Re: Is our defense better under Tom Allen...
Nov 1, 2025, 7:08 PM
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Wes is miles better than Allen.We had some good performances under Wes and have zero under Allen.
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Re: Is our defense better under Tom Allen...
Nov 1, 2025, 8:18 PM
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Did you ever actually watch the Streeter offense? We are average twice as many points this year as we did his last year...
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Re: Is our defense better under Tom Allen...
Nov 1, 2025, 7:04 PM
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No, which tells me our players just suck.
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Re: My question to you is did Pork Chop recruit better than Venables or not?
Nov 1, 2025, 7:05 PM
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Because the product you see on the field now is what Pork Chop recruited.
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Re: My question to you is did Pork Chop recruit better than Venables or not?
Nov 1, 2025, 7:07 PM
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He was not the primary recruiter.
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Re: My question to you is did Pork Chop recruit better than Venables or not?
Nov 1, 2025, 7:08 PM
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Really?!? LOL he had a lot of influence on those decisions, don't kid yourself.
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Re: My question to you is did Pork Chop recruit better than Venables or not?
Nov 1, 2025, 7:36 PM
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Yep really. Several people have mentioned on here that they assigned the coaches to recruit by region.
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Re: Is our defense better under Tom Allen...
Nov 1, 2025, 7:06 PM
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Is this a serious question ? This defense is worst in ACC and the worst maybe we have ever seen in Clemson. It is surely the least talented and slowest we have seen maybe ever
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Re: Is our defense better under Tom Allen...
Nov 1, 2025, 7:07 PM
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The lack of speed in the back end of the defense is criminally bad....like second rate high school bad.
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Re: Is our defense better under Tom Allen...
Nov 1, 2025, 7:07 PM
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It’s much worse. We need two new coordinators.
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Starter [297]
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Re: Is our defense better under Tom Allen...
Nov 1, 2025, 8:20 PM
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Two coordinators make a head coach, right?
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Re: Is our defense better under Tom Allen...
Nov 1, 2025, 7:08 PM
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at least Porkchop kept us in the game most of the time, especially through 3 quarters. TA's D immediately gets blown up! This year's defense is a lot worst and has gotten worse each game!
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Re: Is our defense better under Tom Allen...
Nov 1, 2025, 7:16 PM
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This defense is Kevin Steele's against WVU.
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Re: Is our defense better under Tom Allen...
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Nov 1, 2025, 7:19 PM
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Comparing the defensive stats from last year to this year so far, it has been an improvement. Almost 40 yards less per game, and 3.9 points less per game.
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Wes was better***
Nov 1, 2025, 7:34 PM
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Re: Is our defense better under Tom Allen...
Nov 1, 2025, 7:43 PM
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Look at our last 4 coordinators. Streeter worse...Riley worse...Goodwin worse...Allen worse. Maybe. Maybe the issue isn't really who we are bringing IN but who is already here. It's Dabs program. He put all these pieces in place and wants them to run their parts how he wants it done. And then bring in your kids, friends, in laws to be assistant assistant coaches making good money to hold a tackling dummy. I mean geez if I were a stud receiver I know my thoughts are "how great it would be to play for Grisham and Swinneys little boy coaching me up on how to be a better player"
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Re: Is our defense better under Tom Allen...
Nov 1, 2025, 8:21 PM
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In what way is Riley's offense worse than Streeter? Have you actually looked at any stats? We are averaging double the points as with Streeter offense
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Re: Is our defense better under Tom Allen...
Nov 1, 2025, 8:16 PM
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Scheme wise, no. We replaced awful run defense with awful pass defense. It's the same players so that is that, but I just don't understand Allen not being able to put together some sort of scheme that would limit or cover us our talent deficiencies.
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Re: Is our defense better under Tom Allen...
Nov 1, 2025, 8:17 PM
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I dont know who is worse and that is a bad sign.
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Not today...
Nov 1, 2025, 8:22 PM
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Probably not overall honestly. We are better against the run but worse against the pass.
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Re: Is our defense better under Tom Allen...
Nov 1, 2025, 8:24 PM
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I think the tackling is better. The pass defense is much much worse. I actually thought we had the best man coverage secondary in America, based on personnel, before the season started. And I thought Aveion Terrell was the best man coverage DB in the country preseason.
Boy was I wrong.
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