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Re: I wouldn't even wipe my butt with the Post and Courrier
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Jun 9, 2025, 2:13 PM
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My guess is she didn't get accepted into Clemson.
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Heisman Winner [81326]
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"USuCk is still reviewing sportswriter David Cloningers request."
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Oh?? Where's their editorial?
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National Champion [7140]
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Re: I wouldn't even wipe my butt with the Post and Courrier
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Jun 9, 2025, 2:16 PM
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Sounds like Jon Blau isnt used to being told "No" and is throwing a temper tantrum over it.
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Solid Orange [1318]
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Re: I wouldn't even wipe my butt with the Post and Courrier
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Jun 9, 2025, 2:18 PM
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Why do we need to know how much these guys are getting paid? If this revenue sharing is going to even the playing field and weed out some of the potential shadiness going on, it doesn't bother me one bit if a guy is getting $5 million or $500.
Also, has South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Ohio State, Penn State, etc. all published their information? If not... ####.
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Re: I wouldn't even wipe my butt with the Post and Courrier
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Jun 9, 2025, 2:20 PM
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That’s what I’m talking about, why are they so interested in Clemson payroll but don’t have USC on r any other team.
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Re: I wouldn't even wipe my butt with the Post and Courrier
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Jun 9, 2025, 2:32 PM
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I don’t disagree with the sentiment that this whole deal needs some transparency, but clearly there is something personal at stake here, why else single out Clemson?
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Orange Beast [6165]
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Re: I wouldn't even wipe my butt with the Post and Courrier
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Jun 9, 2025, 2:37 PM
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P&C may be onto something. I've wondered if our recent recruiting success might be helped by more than the presence of better coaches and recent good press coverage wrt returning talent and CFB expectations.
As I understand it, all schools can provide some measure of financial help to players through revenue sharing. In the past, Clemson has seemingly "just missed" on some last minute decisions due to unknown or unconfirmed reasons.
Dabo said a while back that starting this cycle, we would be competitive with anyone, so perhaps many of the better players who would like to be at Clemson wanted a little sweetener besides the "Play well and you'll be rewarded" sales pitch.
I don't know the reason for our incredible success of late, but if it's because we've been able to sweeten the offer to a financially competitive (or close to it) level, that's great.
But - I do think that the Post & Courier should provide the player payroll numbers for USuC and UGA as well - and I haven't seen an effort to do that......  ">
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Re: I wouldn't even wipe my butt with the Post and Courrier
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Jun 9, 2025, 2:59 PM
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The P&C is a big time coot newspaper. They hire a lot of their "journalism" graduates. The Sports Editor is not a graduate of an SEC school but his bias for them is self evident. They rarely reports on anything positive about Clemson. The editor is quite obnoxious about it when he is questioned. The sports section is not worth reading but is good for cat litter or wrapping a fish.
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Orange Beast [6165]
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Re: I wouldn't even wipe my butt with the Post and Courrier
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Jun 9, 2025, 3:14 PM
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Well, it's evident they don't believe in "balanced" reporting.
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Heisman Winner [81326]
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Re: I wouldn't even wipe my butt with the Post and Courrier
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Jun 9, 2025, 3:15 PM
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Unlike all the other "journalists" in the world. LOL.
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Re: I wouldn't even wipe my butt with the Post and Courrier
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Jun 9, 2025, 4:45 PM
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That's the case for The State and the Greenville News too. A bunch of coot journalism hires. Clemson needs to start a Journalism school.
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Tiger Titan [50974]
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Tiger Spirit [9361]
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Youre full of crap. Just a shameless liar.***
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Jun 9, 2025, 3:25 PM
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Orange Immortal [64541]
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Re: I wouldn't even wipe my butt with the Post and Courrier
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Jun 10, 2025, 12:08 AM
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I don't think it's a hit piece on Clemson per se. It's just because we said no and changed the reasons. As Mike said, it's something that's being requested nationally. The reason they didn't do a hit piece as you call it on scar because scar simply said legal et al are still reviewing it.
Actually I see this as a big nothing burger. Media will probably seek judicial intervention and it will hand down the verdict that university can keep it private. Then it'll be over.
If you want to use it to justify it's a hit piece, go for it.
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Re: I wouldn't even wipe my butt with the Post and Courrier
Jun 10, 2025, 10:19 AM
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I don’t think it is a hit piece. All these changes are relatively new and I think Clemson as most schools are navigating through uncharted water. What I don’t like is the HEADLINE! Clemson’s reasoning is fine it is the P&C headline that is off base.
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Letterman [165]
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Re: I wouldn't even wipe my butt with the Post and Courrier
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Jun 9, 2025, 3:17 PM
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Probably want to keep the salaries hidden for a couple reasons. First, you don’t want in-house debates about who is being paid more and second, you don’t want other schools to try and subvert you.
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Re: I wouldn't even wipe my butt with the Post and Courrier
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Jun 9, 2025, 3:18 PM
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The info will have to be released in due time. Clemson is right to withhold at this time due to the uncertainty of how departments divvy up the funds. And it absolutely can give opponents a leg up. The journalist is being disingenuous (because that never happens) especially when mentioning South Carolina hasn't divulged details either.
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Re: I wouldn't even wipe my butt with the Post and Courrier
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Jun 9, 2025, 3:20 PM
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The P%C is a McClatchy Paper, just like most in the Country.
It's a far left organization, so you're always going to see them criticize Dabo - he's a Christian.
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Re: I wouldn't even wipe my butt with the Post and Courrier
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Jun 9, 2025, 5:06 PM
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I don't agree with them singling out Clemson for this info. But they are generally a good newspaper that regularly scoops the State and the G'ville,S'burg and Anderson newspapers on stories in their own circulation areas. Your assertion that they are a McClatchy newspaper is untrue. A 5 minute Google search and you'd have known they're a private company owned by Evening Post publishing. McClatchy hardly owns most of the newspapers. They own 21 small, medium and large newspapers, mostly in the Southeast. Two false assertions in one sentence. Try to do better.
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Orange Blooded [2126]
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Tiger Spirit [9361]
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Nobody anywhere is sharing this info
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Jun 9, 2025, 3:22 PM
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What an ignorant moron he is
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Dynasty Maker [3478]
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I side with Clemson on this issue
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Jun 9, 2025, 4:32 PM
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It would be a competitive disadvantage for Clemson to hand out a list of its NIL spending. Releasing the list would cause a recruiting problem and maybe a problem in the Clemson locker room. When all of this crap started, I wondered how coaches were going to handle their locker room if the team found out the quarterback was making $2 million and the offensive tackle is making $50K.
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Paw Master [16241]
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Re: I side with Clemson on this issue
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Jun 9, 2025, 4:48 PM
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Bingo. The first thing my Dad told me when I went into the private workforce NEVER discuss your salary with someone else other than your boss. It's no one's bidness!
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Team Captain [458]
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Re: I side with Clemson on this issue
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Jun 9, 2025, 5:14 PM
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If I understand this story correctly, Clemson is attempting to keep this information out of the public realm by using some kind of private entity. Do you think they can ultimately prevail using this approach? Also, why is the P&C writing editorials about Clemson? Shouldn't they be requesting this info from USC also? I only get bits and pieces of this story as I don't subscribe to the P&C.
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Tiger Spirit [9361]
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Its an issue all over the country, not just Clemson***
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Jun 9, 2025, 5:56 PM
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Dynasty Maker [3385]
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Re: I wouldn't even wipe my butt with the Post and Courrier
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Jun 9, 2025, 5:03 PM
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That paper has long been known as "The Newsless Courier"
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All-American [585]
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Jun 9, 2025, 5:13 PM
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Screw the p&c…..I dumped them years ago for their repeated dislike of anything Clemson ……sports, education or area in general. Bunch of liberal idiots with an axe to grind that can’t seem to report accurately or without obvious bias……🤬🤬🤬
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Solid Orange [1306]
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They do have a world class "Best of" system
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Jun 9, 2025, 5:37 PM
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They call it "Charleston Choice" and my daughter's company( Hamby Catering) has been selected best caterer for 7 years in a row.
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Orange Beast [6395]
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Jun 9, 2025, 6:38 PM
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You are correct, if you have ever wiped your a$$ on a newspaper
or an oak leaf you will have a nasty sore a$$ and God help you
if you ever wipe that a$$ with a pine cone.
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Re: I wouldn't even wipe my butt with the Post and Courrier
Jun 9, 2025, 8:22 PM
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Newspaper isn't that bad. The trick is to crumble it up a bunch of times until it softens.
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Re: I wouldn't even wipe my butt with the Post and Courrier
Jun 9, 2025, 8:06 PM
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Would have been a compelling piece if the author included the u of sc information in this piece that was requested from Clemson.
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Team Captain [490]
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Re: I wouldn't even wipe my butt with the Post and Courrier
Jun 10, 2025, 12:35 AM
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Well fair enough by tue article...but did they ask s carolina and furman and the citadel
And sc state and newberry and Charleston southern for the same info??? Or is this just a slam on Clemson???
Noone is going to give any facts on anything they arent required to by law...politics 101 lady!!!
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [103164]
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They don't want you to wipe with it, they just want you to post links so...
Jun 10, 2025, 6:42 AM
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they can stay in business. I don't read that crap so no click by me!
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Re: I wouldn't even wipe my butt with the Post and Courrier
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Jun 10, 2025, 9:25 AM
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If you will...join myself and a fairly large contingent of present and former lowcountrians who no longer involve themselves in the Post and Courier's nonstop no sense nonsense.
Sometimes it is just better to hit the ignore button.
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the Coots pay Beamer $8.5M for mediocrity - lol***
Jun 10, 2025, 11:17 AM
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Orange Elite [5297]
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Clemson should FOI the P&C for revenues received
Jun 10, 2025, 2:50 PM
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from state, county and city governments in exchange for placing public notices in their print and digital versions for the past 10 years.
And then blast it out on every social media channel Clemson owns and operates when P&C refuses to release the information and then gives the same reasons Clemson is giving for not releasing the information P&C thinks is owed them.
As a former member of the media, I can say y'all don't hate the media enough.
But I wouldn't call what the P&C wrote a "hit piece." Irrelevant, inconsequential, grandstanding? For sure. But not a hit piece.
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