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All-In [10883]
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I like Qaulk and Dutch's idea for faking injuries
Oct 28, 2014, 12:54 AM
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If an injury is sustained, the player must sit out a minimum of 3 consecutive plays (or the series thought that may be too much) AND the team can NOT confer with the coaches on the sideline and must stay within the hash or some distance away from the coaches so that the injury timeout can not be used as if it were an extra timeout.
Don't know if the latter half of that was ever discussed but I like the idea of no game planning in a huddle.
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Walk-On [129]
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Re: I like Qaulk and Dutch's idea for faking injuries
Oct 28, 2014, 1:48 AM
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If its your players the team should send in his replacement to stand with team away from coaches and that teams coaches cannot approach their players the teams players with injury should take a knee the opposing team can go to their sidelines and be coached.
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TigerNet Elite [76971]
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sit out until change of possession. for safety's sake.
Oct 28, 2014, 8:16 AM
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time to get a full assessment and make sure the poor lad is really ok.
player safety is paramount.
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TigerNet Elite [69783]
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I completely agree, but...
Oct 28, 2014, 8:36 AM
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I also like the idea of not allowing coaches and player on the injured players team to confer during the injnury timeout.
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Orange Phenom [14582]
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Too much for the officials to keep straight IMO.
Oct 28, 2014, 8:42 AM
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The NCAA would probably have to add at least 1 more official to every crew who's only job was to keep track of which players were eligible to be on the field on each play.
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CU Guru [1081]
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How many times have you seen a baseball player
Oct 28, 2014, 9:12 AM
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take a foul tip off the foot, a catcher/umpire get hit and they have to walk it off? Are they faking? No! Did they recover quickly? Yes.
It is impossible to know immediately if a player is really hurt or not, even when there is a "pattern" or continued issue. Players and coaches will eventually become known as fakers or using it as a strategy by reviewing film. Remember the UGA player DID get kicked in the man region the play before he sat down a play later as the film showed.
If you're going to boo, then boo when the player comes back into the game the next play but not when they are down on the field.
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Re: How many times have you seen a baseball player
Oct 28, 2014, 9:36 AM
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The film showed the guy looking to the sideline, receiving instructions, and falling down like he got sniped.
But don't let facts get in the way of a good story.
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CU Guru [1081]
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The facts, as you say...
Oct 28, 2014, 9:45 AM
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showed that on the play before he got kicked in the groin, tried to play the next play and couldn't. Then he tried to head to the sideline and the coaches saw he wasn't going to make it in time and told him to get down. Please ask David Hood or Larry Williams if you don't believe an ole coot.
My point being, even seeing the coaches tell him to get down doesn't tell the entire story.
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Orange Elite [5420]
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This is where the problem comes in
Oct 28, 2014, 11:34 AM
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If you're shaken up and can't get off the field in time to substitute you have to go to the ground even if you don't need to.
It would be easier for the refs to just not to count a player making an effort to get off the field as one of your 11 players. That way teams aren't punished for having an injured player.
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Hall of Famer [8808]
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Do catchers or umpires intentionally get hit to
Oct 28, 2014, 11:54 AM
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disrupt the flow of the game? I think the biggest countermeasure to the "faking" phenomenon would be to make that player sit out the rest of that series. Imagine a "fake" injured player has to sit for the rest of the series as soon as we enter the red zone. Next play their star LB gets hurt, not faking, and also has to sit out the rest of the series. Defense now has two backups in the game as we are driving for a TD on 2nd down. I would bet that puts an end to the "faking" as we know it.
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Orange Elite [5420]
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How do you only punish players who are faking?
Oct 28, 2014, 11:56 AM
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Or are you going to be happy when your star lb is out for the rest of the series when he was legitimately hurt?
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Hall of Famer [8808]
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As it has been pointed out numerous times, there
Oct 28, 2014, 12:20 PM
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is no way to immediately know whether a player is faking or not. If a player is legitimately hurt he probably won't be playing the rest of the series anyway. We're all for player safety, right? I'm sure Nick Saban wouldn't mind his players having to sit out for the remainder of a series to make sure they were OK, you know, in the name of player safety?
As opposed to nit-picking which injuries are fake or not, set a standard across the board that every team has to follow and see how many "fake" injuries continue. It will never be possible to punish fake injuries, but you can eliminate the reward for doing it.
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Rival Killer [2781]
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Re: I like Qaulk and Dutch's idea for faking injuries
Oct 28, 2014, 9:17 AM
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My solution would be to have a neutral trainer, with no affiliation with either team in the stadium. If you stop play, you have to be checked out by him and can't return until given the okay. That may take a play or two, or it could take a quarter - depending on the "injury" and how many players the teams have loaded up in the queue. That would be fair, nonbiased and would stop this garbage.
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TigerNet Elite [76971]
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they would just be coached on what lies to tell the trainer.***
Oct 28, 2014, 5:14 PM
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