Re: I don't blame Harris all that much for her loss...

rons1® · 2025-10-23T12:46:16.176Z

I guess these folks forget Winsome Sears is likewise a woman and Bernie is supporting a dude in the Maine Senate primary against a woman to run against Susan Collins, a woman. Can't elect a woman? I predict a woman will be elected Governor of VA. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0HZ_4I1A4U

That's so true.In some ways, the Dems are at times more misogynistic and racist than the Pubs.

White progressives seemingly don't see female conservatives as women or black conservatives as truly black.

Both the Pubs and Dems are so tribal. There was a huge uproar and rightly so over the Young Republicans who made racist, Nazi supporting and violence promoting texts.

Now the Dem candidate for VA AG who mused via text about killing a fellow Pub VA legislator and desiring to see that person's kids killed, still has yet to have Abigail Spanberger, the Dem candidate for Governor, pull her support.

Bernie is backing a guy who had a Nazi tattoo placed on his chest while a Marine, critiqued blacks for allegedly being poor tippers and the really good one, labeled all white Americans in rural areas as racist and stupid.

This comes from a white guy living in Sullivan Maine population 1219.His Dem opponent is the current Maine Governor who is a woman. Susan Collins the current Senator is a woman.

Hillary while very intelligent and with experience as a shadow adviser to Bill, Secretary of State, and a Senator from NY was not particularly likable and ran a poor campaign, omitting efforts to lock down WI and MI. If she had spent more time in those battleground states, she likely would have won.

Harris has never been a great candidate. She lost not because she is black or is a woman. She ran a very lame campaign.

The Dems need to get away from identity politics and get back on the issues and run a centrist woman or man as President in 2028.

America is willing to elect women and blacks who are both good candidates and run smart campaigns.

Wallowing in identity politics is what is not a winning strategy.

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Oct 23, 2025, 11:33 AM

Both Republicans and Democrats rely heavily on low information voters as one part of their respective bases. Social issues are the key to motivating low information voters to actually vote for them.

Republicans have an easier time messaging their low information constituency than Democrats. Low info Republicans are more demographically monolithic; ‘monolithic’ in this case is not based on gender or race. Monolithic constituency of Republican Party are people who are pro-2nd Amendment (the extent of their understanding of 2A is private gun ownership); traditional understanding of the genders (men are men / women are women) and the historical social norms associated with historical understandings of gender (I.e., men should not use women’s bathrooms or play on girls’ sports teams); ‘right to life’ believers; and superficial characteristics that Republicans have captured and for which people who ‘look like’ and ‘talk like’ them (not necessarily with ‘talk like’ meaning having an accent like them).

Democrats have a harder task as far as courting their low information constituency and then getting those low info people to actually vote Democrat. Democrats must cobble together numerous low information constituency targets in such a way that messaging that appeals to one group needs to be concealed to other low-info target(s). For example, courting Latinos by reminding them that Democrats helped them … back before they became legalized citizens … to get established in USA must square their ongoing pro-immigration stance with the fact that ‘new’ immigrants (especially ‘off-the-grid’ new illegal aliens) accept pay scales that undercut the pay that ‘old’ immigrants are now getting.

Another example (this will be my last, although there are many more) is with race-baiting-if-blacks by reminding them that ‘whites were the bigots who want to eliminate welfare benefits that are owed to blacks because of systemic racism has kept you poor’ tactics. This is all well and good, but when the Democrats messaging to LGBTQ low-info constituency about ‘gender fluidity’ stuff, that outrages many blacks who have figured out that the ‘systemic racism’ messaging is not as obvious to them as ‘gender fluidity’ is an absurdity to them. Thus, a Democrat message that is attractive to LGBTQ ends up ‘leaking over’ to blacks, which begins the process of de legitimizing Democrats to their black constituency.

Again, this entire post is in reference to the ‘low information’ constituencies of both parties.

Because of the complication of messaging to their low information constituencies, the safest messaging is to attack attack attack their political opponent (currently Trump but the shift over to Vance has already begun). The craziest attacks are somewhat effective because the Democrats still control the information outlets that are used by low information voters. Because of the steady rise of non-traditional current event outlets (over which the Democrats lack control, although many of them are pro-Democrat), the Demicrats have tried (and will again) tried to censor them as ‘dangerous misinformation’ sources.

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I don't blame Harris all that much for her loss...

What a perfectly worded post