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Things have gotten really ugly at UNC and Texas
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Things have gotten really ugly at UNC and Texas

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Oct 7, 2025, 1:24 PM
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with news media, parents, and fans throwing around all kinds of accusations. Sark is trying to defend Texas's culture and throwing out the "136 teams in Division 1" quote. Bama fans are hoping for DeBoer to fail.

UGA is mad at Kirby for losing to Bama. PSU has had it with Franklin. Florida is mad that they won Saturday and may have to keep Napier. It's everywhere you look.

It makes me really appreciate the positive and encouraging culture we have here at Clemson and on TNet. Never take that for granted!

Win or lose, I know I can always count on you guys!

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A couple of brief follow up points

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Oct 7, 2025, 1:37 PM
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1) Coaching staffs across the country are having a difficult time assembling a team of HS recruits and portal players, motivating them after they get paid, coaching / developing those players into a cohesive and coordinated team.
2) College football has significantly deteriorated in terms of player effort and execution. It’s going downhill.

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Re: A couple of brief follow up points

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Oct 7, 2025, 2:27 PM
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The vast majority of 18 - 22 year olds are not mature enough to be getting paid that kind of money. It's not good to pay people more than they are worth. There are consequences for doing that.

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Re: A couple of brief follow up points

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Oct 7, 2025, 4:41 PM
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your last sentence doesn't only apply to the players.

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I am appreciating the NFL more and more.

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Oct 7, 2025, 11:26 PM [ in reply to A couple of brief follow up points ]
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It’s the best football on the planet. There are no bones made about it being a job. There is no charade in being a student. And there is a salary cap to keep things fair.

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Re: I am appreciating the NFL more and more.

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Oct 8, 2025, 6:18 AM
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There’s plenty of evidence the NFL is having the same problems. Brady and Manning had a conversation about preparation falling off among NFL QBs. I’ll try to find it and post it. The more money these guys make the less they try now. Once they get that big pay day they fall off.

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Re: Things have gotten really ugly at UNC and Texas

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Oct 7, 2025, 1:37 PM
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Great Post. I may share my opinion on what I think but will never spew poison out on our Clemson Tigers and their coaches. If you have only been a tiger for the last 10 years you probably have not been in the ups and downs of Tiger Football. Pay for play has disrupted Dabo’s model but he will figure out another model that is acceptable for his belief system and ours. Clemson is a very unusual University and I personally like it that way.

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How long does Dabo get to figure it out?

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Oct 7, 2025, 11:27 PM
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We are on year 5 of this decline and things aren’t trending well.

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Brad's had 13 Years***

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Oct 8, 2025, 6:01 AM
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Well, Brads program has been trending better the last 5 years.

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Oct 9, 2025, 12:19 AM
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He had had arguably best stretch in program history lately.

Meanwhile, our football program is on a downward trend recently.

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Re: How long does Dabo get to figure it out?


Oct 8, 2025, 11:17 PM [ in reply to How long does Dabo get to figure it out? ]
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13 years....

Like Brown-L

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Re: Things have gotten really ugly at UNC and Texas

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Oct 7, 2025, 1:38 PM
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Truth, we are only a couple of plays from being #1. The momentum is rolling.

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Re: Things have gotten really ugly at UNC and Texas

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Oct 7, 2025, 2:20 PM
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Why don’t y’all get over the couple of playes quotes from Dabo. It’s coach speak to keep players believing .

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Dont forget that all we do is win.

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Oct 7, 2025, 11:28 PM
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And when we don’t, it must be God’s plan, and God never says oops.

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Re: Things have gotten really ugly at UNC and Texas

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Oct 7, 2025, 1:54 PM
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Florida played inspired football last Saturday and looked like

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Oct 7, 2025, 1:55 PM
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the players were having fun. Also, the fans seemed into to me as well. Not sure where you’re hearing that (but I don’t doubt it). But if you ask me, UF AD was right to keep Napier. He’s getting the recruits… things will start to fall in place I bet.

Bama can chill. Saban ain’t coming back.

UGA tired of Kirby is the most preposterous one of them all.

Franklin is a bum and has been a bum since day 1.

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Re: Things have gotten really ugly at UNC and Texas

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Oct 7, 2025, 2:25 PM
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Mole, only a very cynical person would think that.

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Oct 7, 2025, 3:35 PM [ in reply to Re: Things have gotten really ugly at UNC and Texas ]
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Ditto.

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Re: Things have gotten really ugly at UNC and Texas

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Oct 7, 2025, 3:17 PM
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PAWsitive and encouraging on the field with the team. Not so much on TigerNet.

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Check out FSU. Fans everywhere are bipolar and they have...

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Oct 7, 2025, 3:46 PM
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... the memory of a goldfish (aporx 3 seconds).

There are some fans at FSU that are seriously saying we should fire Norvell and bring Jimbo back. I won't bore you with the details, but that would be even more remarkable if Clemson fans were saying to fire Dabo and bring Hatfield back.

Fans, with very good reason, were overjoyed when Jimbo left for aTm. We loved his abysmal failure, and subsequent firing, at aTm. Now, many of those same fans are saying, "Fire Mike; hire Jimbo!"

Bipolar or manic-depressive - whatever you want to call it - it is a universal affliction of fans of every team.

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Re: Things have gotten really ugly at UNC and Texas

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Oct 7, 2025, 3:52 PM
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Positive on Tnet? Whachu talking about Willis?

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Re: Things have gotten really ugly at UNC and Texas

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Oct 7, 2025, 5:15 PM
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Everyone that posts here is positive their opinion is correct.

That is not the same thing as everyone having a positive opinion.

But they are positive all right!

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Re: Things have gotten really ugly at UNC and Texas

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Oct 7, 2025, 4:16 PM
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And this will continue because there is more parity in college football than ever before. Any school can pick up the right pieces from the portal and go from good to champion if they can stay healthy in any given season. Any great team can also lose players to graduation or the portal and fall drastically from year to year. This is the new world order of college football.

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When folks buy a BMW, Porsche or Lexus and are delivered a Chevy

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Oct 7, 2025, 5:01 PM
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They may express some misgivings.

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Oct 7, 2025, 5:21 PM
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Is Norvell back on hot seat?

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Re: Things have gotten really ugly at UNC and Texas

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Oct 7, 2025, 5:28 PM
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I don't feel sorry for any of them. When you are making 10 million plus per year deal with the heat.

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Oct 7, 2025, 5:47 PM
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Lmao were you on here 2 weeks ago?

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Re: Things have gotten really ugly at UNC and Texas

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Oct 7, 2025, 6:08 PM
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Interesting article about UNC.

https://www.si.com/college-football/unc-bill-belichick-unhappy-parents-players-report

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Oct 7, 2025, 6:42 PM
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Beat the Chickens
Beat the Chickens
Beat the Chickens

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Oct 7, 2025, 6:53 PM
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Beat the Chickens
Beat the Chickens
Beat the Chickens

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Oct 7, 2025, 6:54 PM
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Beat the Chickens
Beat the Chickens
Beat the Chickens

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Oct 7, 2025, 8:32 PM
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Beat the Chickens
Beat the Chickens
Beat the Chickens

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Oct 7, 2025, 8:33 PM
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raider12® said:

with news media, parents, and fans throwing around all kinds of accusations. Sark is trying to defend Texas's culture and throwing out the "136 teams in Division 1" quote. Bama fans are hoping for DeBoer to fail.

UGA is mad at Kirby for losing to Bama. PSU has had it with Franklin. Florida is mad that they won Saturday and may have to keep Napier. It's everywhere you look.

It makes me really appreciate the positive and encouraging culture we have here at Clemson and on TNet. Never take that for granted!

Win or lose, I know I can always count on you guys!


Beat the Chickens
Beat the Chickens
Beat the Chickens

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Re: Things have gotten really ugly at UNC and Texas


Oct 7, 2025, 9:22 PM
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DeBoer is figuring it out.

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Re: Things have gotten really ugly at UNC and Texas

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Oct 8, 2025, 1:21 PM
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Read this article. Spells out from the inside why UNC sucks outloud.

https://www.wral.com/sports/belichick-coach-culture-chaos-oct-2025/

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Re: Things have gotten really ugly at UNC and Texas

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Oct 8, 2025, 5:12 PM
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Looks like Dabo and Bill have something in common with two sons on each staff. Bill's do have prior coaching experience to some extent though. Wonder if UNC's president has a son on their staff.

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Oct 9, 2025, 12:06 AM
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I agree w OP 100%

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