Re: How buying transfers will impact programs over time. FSU, Miami & Louisville...

Despite all the confident prognosticating, we simply don't know how building and reloading teams with paid-for transfers will work for programs long-term.

FSU, Miami, and Louisville should tell us a lot about the medium/long-term implications of embracing transfers as a central element of depth chart building.

FSU had an amazing year last year. I believe they were screwed out of the playoffs. We don't know how they would have fared because most of their team (full of mercenaries) ditched them for their bowl game and they got absolutely embarrassed in such a fashion the primary memory of that otherwise amazing season is shameful.

It will be interesting to see how FSU does this year. What will their discipline be like? What will their effort look like? What will the dynamic be with coaches? I will be watching them closely this year and will let their performance inform me regarding the utility of transfer team-building.

Miami will be another interesting case. They were not good last year. (Yes they beat us and we were not good either) 5 of 11 starters on defense are transfers. 4 of 11 are on offense. If they gel and have a top-10 season, that will say a lot to me.

The playoff teams from last year were mostly developed players recruited in the program. Defending champs Michigan only have 2 total projected starters who have transferred in. (compared to FSU's 9) UGA only has 1 transfer projected to start. And still only a total of 2 if you also include transfers from previous years. (Compare that to Miami's 11 projected starters [half the team!] who transferred at some point.)

Ohio State has 3 projected starting transferees, but LOUISVILLE HAS 8 TRANSFER STARTERS ON OFFENSE ALONE. They have 6 transfers (this year and previous years) slated to start on defense too. Louisville is #1 in the transfer portal rankings (since that is a thing) and we will see how that correlates to the actual ranking. I doubt it will for UGA because they were 64th in the ranking. They had 25 players transfer out. Louisville had 33! (Clemson had 12)

We learned something from Colorado last year, the most extreme case. Transfers definitely help generate hype. But their team fell apart by the middle of the season. Wonder how Colorado does this year.

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Aug 12, 2024, 11:01 AM

I guess my postion is how transfers effected me watching and enjoying professional sports. It used to be that the guys on my team were my guys for life and they would always be my guys with very few changes.
In baseball it has gotten to the point where trades happen so much that a favorite player might actually be playing for the opposing team before the game is over. Who wants to be a fan of that?

When I was a boy we could be fans of teams like the Steelers during the Terry Bradshaw years because those guys played together most of their profootball careers. The same of the Cowboys or even lousy teams like the Patriots (the Patriots have sucked more than they have ever been good). Almost the entire team were household names even if (like me) you were not Steelers fans. I was a Pats fan and I knew my team and could expect all the senior members to be back next year. Now that it is all about the money, I barely watch because I can't count on the team being the team I know. It's too much work to follow it.

I think of RedSox greats, Ted Williams 1939-1960 and Carl Yastzremski 1961-1983 all with the RedSox. Or Reds great Johnny Bench who played for the Reds from 1967 to 1980. His entire career. These guys created not just their own following, but a following for baseball because fans felt like they were a part of their community and part of their lives. Fast forward to now and baseball is dying. It is largely because of "free agency". The very thing we are doing to college football. Few people know their team so few people care. The players have ceased to be people in their community, they are just corporate tools now.

Look at the NBA....most of the old greats up through Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, and Magic Johnson era, played for one or perhaps two teams their entire careers. People were fans of these guys, but even bigger fans of the Bulls, Celtics or Lakers.

By the time we get to Shaquille O'neal and Lebron Jomes people are no longer big fans of the teams, but just follow players around. O'neal played for 6 NBA teams, James has been on four and will likely be on a couple more before he is done. The result of how the NBA does things has completely killed me off as a fan. There was a time when I was a huge fan of the Celtics and not just a Larry Bird fan. I new the whole team even the bench and I was invested in their success. Now I can't tell you the name of a single player and I don't care because half of them won't be there next season.

Why is this? It is because they took a TEAM SPORT and made it about the individuals and the money they got. It's not about the team or the fans and that is what transfer portal is doing to college football. Teams sports lose their soul when the players are just transient temp workers.

I don't give a rip if a Clemson team full of Johnny Come-Lately transfers ever wins a game. They come this year and go next. They don't care about Clemson, about South Carolina, or any of the student...nothing. It wrecks the best part about being a fan of a team sport and that is the team, the family of fans that look at their team as part of the whole.

Do you actually think there is an FSU crowd out there that is are giant fans and followers of DJU? Or any that really cares about any of their latest hired guns? Winning is fun, but winning with a team of people that you know and have supported for years is way friggin better. I would rather lose with a team I know and supported from being freshmen than win with a bunch of first year juniors and seniors who I don't know.

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How buying transfers will impact programs over time. FSU, Miami & Louisville...

we'll also see how not "buying" transfers will impact a program over time

"Time will tell" is the key. I think the next couple years will show us a lot.

It will depend a lot on who has the boosters with the deepest pockets. That

The recent changes have definately made money more directly connected to wins...

No one can every explain how this is sustained. There is no motivation for big

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