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Heisman Winner [86917]
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Honestly, baseball and softball suffered from the same malady. It's called lack
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Jun 1, 2025, 4:22 PM
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of ELITE pitching. Saw MANY pitchers on other staffs this year in both sports who were better than ours. That's just a cold hard fact. Clemson baseball, back when we were HAVING post season success, always hung our hats on great pitching. Some way, somehow, we seem to have lost our ability to recruit it.
With the upcoming NCAA settlement, we, and other schools, should have a real chance to entice talent, pitching and otherwise, that would automatically have gone to the professional ranks right out of high school to attend and play college baseball. That is, unless Major League Baseball suddenly ramps up their minor league offers. Sadly, I also see that happening, if talent starts "defecting" to college wholesale. It will be interesting to see what actually happens.
Either way, Clemson HAS to get better pitching from a whole staff if we are ever to truly compete on the national stage again. Lately, we just don't got the hosses, Hoss.
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Re: Honestly, baseball and softball suffered from the same malady. It's called lack
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Jun 1, 2025, 4:32 PM
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If you look at scores, you can say that about most teams. It is so hard to find quality pitchers and at the same time, schools are recruiting hitters that are as good as the pitchers. I don't follow softball but recruiting in baseball is just flat out hard.
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Clemson Icon [26624]
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Re: Honestly, baseball and softball suffered from the same malady. It's called lack
Jun 1, 2025, 8:13 PM
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Ok coot!!!
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Re: Honestly, baseball and softball suffered from the same malady. It's called lack
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Jun 1, 2025, 4:38 PM
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Baseball way behind softball
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Re: Honestly, baseball and softball suffered from the same malady. It's called lack
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Jun 1, 2025, 4:45 PM
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Agree with 76er points on baseball, but we weren't lacking that far behind in softball. We recruited the number one player in softball in Cintron. She pitched ok but she wasn't day 1 ready like Cagle. Few are. But we were a bad coaching decision away from going to the wcws. We would have been 2 and done if we'd won our regional.
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CU Guru [1547]
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Re: Honestly, baseball and softball suffered from the same malady. It's called lack
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Softball was way bettor than baseball. The woman’s team actually exceeded expectations. While the baseball team wet the bed. We were one miscoached play from OKC. All the while the men’s team had several coaching mistakes and a lack of talent that cost us Omaha. Our softball team had great power and a top to bottom lineup that can hit. Our baseball team has the exact opposite type of line up with only one great hitter. Heck our softball pitching and batting was able to keep up with what could end up being the team to win it all in Texas. Clemson baseball on the other hand couldn’t even keep up with mediocre pitching and sometime made sub par hitters look great. I don’t know how we won 40+ games with this baseball team.
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CU Guru [1547]
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Re: Honestly, baseball and softball suffered from the same malady. It's called lack
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Jun 1, 2025, 5:08 PM
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Oh yea and softball was able to at least get a conference total out of their season where as baseball wet the bed in their title game.
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CU Guru [1547]
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Re: Honestly, baseball and softball suffered from the same malady. It's called lack
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Jun 1, 2025, 5:10 PM
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I meant title not total.
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Re: Honestly, baseball and softball suffered from the same malady. It's called lack
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Jun 1, 2025, 5:10 PM
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It’s called lack of passion…our boys don’t really want it!
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Re: Honestly, baseball and softball suffered from the same malady. It's called lack
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Jun 1, 2025, 5:33 PM
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I don't know if it's lack of passion. I think passion and emotion work more in physical sports like football, basketball, hockey. Baseball is more like golf, where subtle skills need to be mastered in order for a player and team to be really good or great. Some baseball players are passionate and great. Pete Rose and Bob Gibson come to mind. Others are very low key. Aaron Judge and Mariano Rivera being the mellow fellows. I think this Clemson team simply didn't play well enough down the stretch. Talent and execution being the key factors, IMHO.
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Re: Honestly, baseball and softball suffered from the same malady. It's called lack
Jun 2, 2025, 12:41 AM
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The baseball team had no passion against kentucky. You know it. They acted like who cares.
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Clemson Icon [26624]
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Clemson Sports Icon [59982]
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It reminded me of football where every team we played had Ray Guy as a
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Jun 1, 2025, 7:30 PM
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punter. Well, every pitcher we faced down the stretch was throwing 95 plus. Do we have anybody that throws 95? And that reminds me of football under Bowden where in the spring and early fall we kept hearing how great the Oline looked....and then we would play a decent team and get stuffed. Apparently, the Oline looked good because the Dline was bad....I think our pitching and hitting are reflective of each other....
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I will never forget the season opener against Georgia in 2003.
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Jun 2, 2025, 12:49 AM
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It was super hot and all we heard in the offseason and preseason is how we were going to establish the run. Bowden even took over play calling duties that year.
We ran 24 times for 35 yards, and lost 30-0. Doh!
One of my most miserable experiences in Death Valley.
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Softball had the winning run on 3B with no outs to go to the WS
Jun 1, 2025, 8:01 PM
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not sure what you are talking about
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Orange Blooded [2410]
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Re: Honestly, baseball and softball suffered from the same malady. It's called lack
Jun 1, 2025, 8:04 PM
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Disagree. Heart is what we lacked. Period. . . . . . .. We have GOT to figure out that regionals are not the end all be all. We have not reached the understanding that you play to win. Period. . . . . .
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Re: Honestly, baseball and softball suffered from the same malady. It's called lack
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Jun 2, 2025, 12:39 AM
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Coot
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Heisman Winner [86917]
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LOL. Clemson graduate 1976. I unplug my nose in your direction, COOT.
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Jun 2, 2025, 4:43 PM
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14 posts? LOL again at you calling ME a Coot.
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