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Letterman [281]
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FSU Needs to Chill Out
Dec 26, 2022, 9:25 PM
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There building a freaking transfer all star team down there. They might even land that transfer cb from Virginia so they'd have the #1 and # 2 TEs
#1 O Lineman
#1 DT
#1 CB
That game worries me next yr gonna be tough but it is at home.
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FSU the Texas A&M of the ACC?***
Dec 26, 2022, 9:26 PM
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Letterman [281]
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Re: FSU the Texas A&M of the ACC?***
Dec 26, 2022, 9:27 PM
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Was with
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Letterman [281]
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Re: FSU the Texas A&M of the ACC?***
Dec 26, 2022, 9:29 PM
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Was with Jimbo lol. Idk man they hit on their transfers it seems those wrs this yr had to be worth a couple wins for em.
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Commissioner [923]
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Clemson Icon [24894]
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Tell 'em coot, no one knows losing better than you
Dec 27, 2022, 9:27 PM
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fno
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Valley Legend [12834]
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Re: FSU Needs to Chill Out
Dec 26, 2022, 9:37 PM
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its a new era, gone are the days when you had to build a team over years, fill needs immediately if you have the cash
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Letterman [281]
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Re: FSU Needs to Chill Out
Dec 26, 2022, 9:46 PM
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I don't know how much there paying but I mean their the same program that couldn't pay Jimbo or build a practice facility 5 yrs ago. Im sure we have more money than them were just playing with one hand behind our back.
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Tiger Titan [50803]
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They aren’t getting transfers because of money.
Dec 26, 2022, 9:58 PM
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They are getting them because they see value in the portal and are willing to use it.
They also have a rich football tradition, a coach players want to play for, and an opportunity for transfers to come in and play.
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Letterman [281]
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Re: They aren’t getting transfers because of money.
Dec 26, 2022, 10:02 PM
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You know how people see Jesus in their toast. Somebody needs to do that to dabos toast and put "use the portal" underneath lol.
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Game Changer [1985]
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Re: They aren’t getting transfers because of money.
Dec 27, 2022, 8:50 AM
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Don’t like the way Dabo builds a team then fsu might be for you or cooterville u
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Orange Immortal [63738]
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Clemson Sports Icon [55403]
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Solid Orange [1342]
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Re: They aren’t getting transfers because of money.
Dec 27, 2022, 9:05 AM
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They have a very short football history...they were a women's teachers college until the end of ww2 and the gi bill...women did not play football back then.
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Legend [6837]
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Re: They aren’t getting transfers because of money.
Dec 27, 2022, 9:39 PM
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If you think most of these transfers are getting no money from FSU and are going there because they want to be in Tallahassee and play for Mike Norvell then you are not as sharp as I thought you were. No wonder you think Brad is getting ready to win the ACC
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Heisman Winner [80141]
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Exactly! Look at the sustained success at LSU!
Dec 26, 2022, 10:28 PM
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The corn dogs just keep reloading. Wait...
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Re: FSU Needs to Chill Out
Dec 26, 2022, 9:49 PM
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Florida State will be a huge contender for the ACC Championship next year for sure. It is about to get real with FSU and Miami rebuilding like crazy.
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Orange Phenom [14606]
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LMAO. Tell ‘em coots!***
Dec 26, 2022, 9:51 PM
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Freshman [-100]
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Re: LMAO. Tell ‘em coots!***
Dec 26, 2022, 11:59 PM
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SMH ?♂️
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Solid Orange [1336]
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Re: FSU Needs to Chill Out
Dec 27, 2022, 11:10 AM
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Nope. More of the same for both. The foundation isn’t there yet in either place. Maybe 2-3 years
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110%er [3989]
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Re: FSU Needs to Chill Out
Dec 26, 2022, 9:53 PM
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There landing?
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Re: FSU Needs to Chill Out
Dec 26, 2022, 10:09 PM
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Meh we beat them rather easily with DJ...should be able to take care of them at home with Cade
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CU Medallion [18196]
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luckily for us time ran out in that game
Dec 26, 2022, 10:24 PM
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they were surging we were sputtering
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Orange Elite [5381]
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Re: FSU Needs to Chill Out
Dec 27, 2022, 5:58 AM
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At one point, then got too conservative and barely hung on - an onside kick away from losing.
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Commissioner [923]
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If they had 1 more series they would have beaten us.... we
Dec 27, 2022, 8:49 AM
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were a stalling program at this whole year.... see QB play from game 1 -12......12th game was the worst ...FSU got MUCH better at the end of the year...
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Clemson Icon [26539]
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Re: If they had 1 more series they would have beaten us.... we
Dec 27, 2022, 9:57 AM
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And if a frog had wings he would not bump his butt on the ground!!!!!!!!!
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Clemson Sports Icon [55403]
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While Clemson hopes their 3 stars from Daniel High can
Dec 26, 2022, 10:20 PM
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top that.
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Ring of Honor [23955]
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Speaking of, I am no coach but I watched Green's film
Dec 27, 2022, 9:43 AM
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he was continually chased down from behind by high school talent.
He was able to break a few tackles, but as a smaller back without breakaway speed, I don't see how he will improve our offense.
I hate to disparage the kid, and I hope I am wrong. But if we are honest with ourselves, RB recruiting has been a disappointment lately.
I looked at Trevor Etienne's film for comparison purposes, and it's night and day.
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Commissioner [923]
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NO!! if you ask this board he is the next Barry Sanders***
Dec 27, 2022, 9:59 AM
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Ring of Honor [23955]
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Yeah, but it doesn't matter WHO we sign it's the same people
Dec 27, 2022, 10:39 AM
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that continue to ruin their credibility by bragging about fallback guys at RB.
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Varsity [104]
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Re: FSU Needs to Chill Out
Dec 26, 2022, 10:32 PM
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Still looking like a mediocre O Line, at least on paper. But that is a huge improvement from the Girl Scouts they had on O Line the past few years.
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Tiger Spirit [9795]
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As much as I loved the unquestioned dominance we
Dec 27, 2022, 6:07 AM
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currently have at the top of the conference. It would be really good to have a strong FSU, Miami, VA, VT, NCST and Wake. That makes the conference credible. Currently it's a joke.
It would make our games much more compelling.
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National Champion [7634]
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agreed, games are better when they are competitive***
Dec 27, 2022, 10:02 AM
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Game Changer [1821]
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Re: FSU Needs to Chill Out
Dec 27, 2022, 8:00 AM
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The only team they really got beat down by this year was us, until we just let off the gas in the 4th quarter. So they should be a very formidable opponent and ranked high in the polls next year if they stay healthy!
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Re: FSU Needs to Chill Out
Dec 27, 2022, 8:07 AM
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Swofford's dream of FSU and Miami rematching in the ACCCG (without his lousy division setup) every year about to come true?
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Tiger Spirit [9358]
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Re: FSU Needs to Chill Out
Dec 27, 2022, 8:39 AM
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Unfortunately, Mike Norvelle is not Jimbo. FSU will be a force. Their OL coach might be the best in the country. Mario and the U on the other hand, is the TAM of the ACC until proven otherwise.
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Game Changer [1689]
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Re: FSU Needs to Chill Out
Dec 27, 2022, 8:55 AM
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Hopefully they aren’t better than the walk on Daniel high kids we replace our transfers out with
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Orange Blooded [2425]
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Re: FSU Needs to Chill Out
Dec 27, 2022, 8:56 AM
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Oh yeah... they improved all season and now added a ton of ready to play talent. Will be a really tough game next season for sure.
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Starter [266]
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Re: FSU Needs to Chill Out
Dec 27, 2022, 8:56 AM
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Ooooooh! Im scared!
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Top TigerNet [30057]
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Norvell is using the portal...
Dec 27, 2022, 9:00 AM
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...because he has to. The talent level was so bad when he took over that he recognized it would take years to even become competitive in the ACC if he didn't get transfers to come in.
He has stated that in the coming years he expects to use it less and less. Thus far he has been remarkably successful. Last year both DE ends came through the portal. Both are in the NFL now. This year it looks like at least 4 guys he picked up will be in the NFL next year, unless they decide to stay at FSU for another year. It looks like he has landed another great group of guys in the portal who will be starters in the Fall.
But, the portal is a high risk / high reward deal. Nobody can expect to hit a home run every year.
FSU also has a collective that has stated their objective is to retain players currently on the roster. Instead of paying HS seniors, they are looking to pay guys currently on the roster to get them to stay at FSU (rather than enter the portal or declare for the NFL draft). That appears to be working very well. (Jordan Travis and Trey Benson are the two best examples.)
I don't know, but I suspect Clemson is using NIL the same way. Instead of paying HS kids, pay kids who have already proven themselves and get them to stay at Clemson instead of heading to the NFL.
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Legend [6837]
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Re: Norvell is using the portal...
Dec 27, 2022, 10:12 AM
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So you admit FSU is using nil to bring in from the portal these players that are going into the NFL the following year. I don’t think Clemson has paid nil to any high school recruit as of yet. It may come in the future. Clemson tried to get the cornerback out of VA but money will take him somewhere else probably FSU. He is waiting around for the highest bidder. Buy yourself a trophy but don’t put it in the trophy case where Bobby Bowden trophies are. He got them the honest way.
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Top TigerNet [30057]
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Let me try and clarify.
Dec 27, 2022, 10:38 AM
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FSU is using NIL. Clemson is using NIL. Dabo has said as much. They have set up a whole department to help kids who want to use NIL.
Shipley is using NIL to help other people. Gibbons, FSU, is doing the same thing. He has set up an organization to help special needs children. He received the Danny Wuerffel Award this year. (Great story. Worth the time to look it up.)
I never said FSU was using the NIL to recruit HS players. I said they were using it to retain players already on their roster. I suspect Clemson is as well. (For those juniors who decide to come back, I suspect they have some sort of NIL deal that factored into their decision.)
FSU, apparently, is not using NIL the same way aTm or Miami are using it. FSU is not outbidding anybody in order to sign HS kids. (As pointed out elsewhere in this thread, FSU is ranked #16 in recruiting this year.)
It appears to me that FSU and Clemson are using NIL in similar fashion. Where they differ is in the use of the portal. If FSU wants to be competitive they have to used the portal. Clemson can be competitive without it.
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Re: Norvell is using the portal...
Dec 27, 2022, 10:14 AM
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...because he has to. The talent level was so bad when he took over that he recognized it would take years to even become competitive in the ACC if he didn't get transfers to come in.
He has stated that in the coming years he expects to use it less and less. Thus far he has been remarkably successful. Last year both DE ends came through the portal. Both are in the NFL now. This year it looks like at least 4 guys he picked up will be in the NFL next year, unless they decide to stay at FSU for another year. It looks like he has landed another great group of guys in the portal who will be starters in the Fall.
But, the portal is a high risk / high reward deal. Nobody can expect to hit a home run every year.
FSU also has a collective that has stated their objective is to retain players currently on the roster. Instead of paying HS seniors, they are looking to pay guys currently on the roster to get them to stay at FSU (rather than enter the portal or declare for the NFL draft). That appears to be working very well. (Jordan Travis and Trey Benson are the two best examples.)
I don't know, but I suspect Clemson is using NIL the same way. Instead of paying HS kids, pay kids who have already proven themselves and get them to stay at Clemson instead of heading to the NFL.
Great comment amongst a lot of stupid ones. The "other teams are paying to get players" comments make my brain bleed. "Clemson isn't doing it, so we should criticize how other teams are doing it."
The interesting thing (to me) is that while Mike Norvell may have started to turn a corner with the team this season, his recruiting still isn't great. They are #16 in the current class, which is his first top twenty class. So he kind of needs the #1 (right now) portal class if the team is going to get to elite status.
I'm still not a complete believer in him as a coach, but he has certainly earned the benefit of the doubt, with the way the program has finally started to improve.
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Clemson Icon [24081]
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Apparently so . . . BUT - this list has DJ as the #6 QB
Dec 27, 2022, 10:32 AM
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so there's that.
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Legend [6837]
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Re: FSU Needs to Chill Out
Dec 27, 2022, 10:03 AM
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If you think these transfers not getting nil money then think again. FSU buying a nil transfer team. They are going to be hard to beat next year even in Death Valley. They got one of best offensive schemes of anybody and now they got the pieces thru the portal to make it work
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Solid Orange [1342]
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Re: FSU Needs to Chill Out
Dec 28, 2022, 8:41 AM
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The only true reason is halfassU has a QB...makes all the difference in the world...wedid not have a functional one and still beat them handily...Norvell is smart but it will take time to assemble all the pieces...a great defense is often harder than an offense...that's one thing that has sustained Clemson...many moons ago Dietzel at LSU had a bunch of players that played both ways...strange name with a Mohawk haircut...like he had a whole team of Wilkins...they were vicious!
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CU Medallion [20868]
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Bring it on.
Dec 27, 2022, 10:28 AM
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We could certainly do with some higher quality wins in the league.
Go Tigers.
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Orange Elite [5381]
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Re: FSU Needs to Chill Out
Dec 27, 2022, 10:41 AM
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If an FSU fan, why? Their coach is using the tools available and necessary to build and improve their team. Just because “we’re not built that way” doesn’t mean they shouldn’t. If we don’t need it fine, but other teams apparently do to improve.
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