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Football Recruiting Update: "Decision was mutual" between Briscoe and Clemson
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Football Recruiting Update: "Decision was mutual" between Briscoe and Clemson


Nov 21, 2014, 10:01 AM

 
"Decision was mutual" between Briscoe and Clemson

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Re: Football Recruiting Update: "Decision was mutual" between Briscoe and Clemson


Nov 21, 2014, 10:04 AM

Don't commit and just think you can sleep around. It's called commitment for a reason.

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This is the biggest decision of a 17 yr old's life.


Nov 21, 2014, 10:10 AM

You can't with a straight face tell me that you blame these kids for becoming a little confused throughout the whole process.

Especially when you get some late offers from some other major schools, it's human nature to want to check that out.

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Re: This is the biggest decision of a 17 yr old's life.


Nov 21, 2014, 10:14 AM

As long as the players is okay with the school also opening up recruiting then I have no problem with a kid visiting. Sounds like this was handled well by both parties. Wish him the best of luck.

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Re: This is the biggest decision of a 17 yr old's life.


Nov 21, 2014, 10:15 AM [ in reply to This is the biggest decision of a 17 yr old's life. ]

Yeah, please hold me a spot on your team while I look for something better.

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The whole process sucks, but it's hard to place much blame


Nov 21, 2014, 10:19 AM

on either side in my opinion. Everyone just has to look out for their best interests, including the coaches.

Marcus Lewis has decommitted twice already, but we're going hard after him. If we land him, everyone will forget about this.

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Re: The whole process sucks, but it's hard to place much blame


Nov 21, 2014, 8:53 PM

Yep what you said, and our coaches should just stop dragging those kids into Dabo's office where the water torture board is hidden in a side room and forcing those young adults to commit. But after the water board torture, Dabo ask them to don't commit unless they're 100% All In with their commitment!!! I'm positive every single one of them are full aware how many official visits they have, and that they have unlimited unofficial visits. I'm sure somebody that's close to them are keeping up with how many visits they have been on, and how many they have left. And I'm also absolutely sure that every recruit understands that they don't have to commit or sign with any school even after they leave HS, says Kurt Fleming. He didn't decide to play college FB until 4 years after he graduated HS. There is absolutely no reason for de committing unless a coaching staff was fired after they committed, none. They have as long as they want to look around to make sure they choose the right school for them.

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Because I am only 17 and didn't understand when


Nov 21, 2014, 8:24 AM [ in reply to Re: This is the biggest decision of a 17 yr old's life. ]

Dabo said to not commit if I wasn't sure.

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Re: Because I am only 17 and didn't understand when


Nov 24, 2014, 8:52 AM

I don't see being 17 as an excuse at all. All these 17 year old kids that are good enough to play D1 FB out of HS means they had coaches in HS that got them to that level. Those same coaches I'm sure talks to them a lot about making sure they choose the right school for them in both the education and FB. And sometimes, I think a kid maybe misguided by their HS coaches. I could be wrong about this particular situation, but I think that he was advised to except the Clemson just in case he didn't get another big program offer. I think that he was also told that his commitment to Clemson wasn't binding him to Clemson if he got other big program offers. And I'm 100% with Dabo in the very moment he feels or see's that a kid isn't a solid commit and he is still looking, and that the odds of signing them is iffy at best. Dabo should inform the kid that its risky for Clemson to keep a slot locked in for them, with them still looking after telling these kid what commitment means to Clemson. Bottom line is that it is all about Clemson and what it will take to keep our FB program moving forward. Clemson FB program depends on kids being 100% committed to Clemson without them second guessing their commitment. And that only a 100% all in commitment will hold their offer firm. Nothing more or nothing less....

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Re: This is the biggest decision of a 17 yr old's life.


Nov 21, 2014, 10:42 AM [ in reply to This is the biggest decision of a 17 yr old's life. ]

In the end it's their decision. They are the one's that will be spending the next 4-5 years of their lives at that school. I'm not sure I agree with how Dabo is so quick to remove a committment from the board if he visits other schools. But I understand that we have to watch out for our own interests too and avoid another Nkemdiche debacle.

Not too worried about it though, our secondary is in good shape right now with some guys in waiting.

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Re: This is the biggest decision of a 17 yr old's life.


Nov 21, 2014, 2:29 PM

Because that's how we miss on players. Say we are only taking 2DBs this cycle and for 6mths after having 2 committed and backing off others... Briscoe (after saying he's fully committed) decided to start looking around. This leaves the staff only a few months to make up ground with other players who have built relationships with other teams. Then we'll have people saying we missed on recruits.

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Re: This is the biggest decision of a 17 yr old's life.


Nov 21, 2014, 9:31 PM

Exactly, and then those same people will say that Dabo had to have seen it coming that a recruit was still taking visits and wasn't going to come to Clemson. When he does see whats going down and pulls the offer, the same ones preach about how wrong and what a sumbitch Dabo was for pulling the offer. He will be that same sumbitch to them regardless of how or what Dabo does to ensure his team has the best he's sure he can get for them. No body at Clemson I'm sure don't force a commitment. If they commit after Dabo tells them to not commit if they're not 100% committed and all in to the end with Clemson. Then he learns they're not 100% all in, pull that offer and find someone equal or better that will be 100% all in!!!

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Re: This is the biggest decision of a 17 yr old's life.


Nov 21, 2014, 9:16 PM [ in reply to Re: This is the biggest decision of a 17 yr old's life. ]

What part is it that you don't understand that a coach has a responsibility to the school, and FB team to get their needs lined up and ready to sign by signing day. If he over recruits and pulls a scholarship b/c there isn't room, the coach is then a sumbitch. And if he pulls an offer b/c recruits are still taking visits with a strong possibility that the slot want be filled b/c the recruit will most likely jump ship by de committing after its to late to fill that slot, then the coach becomes a dumb sumbitch for not seeing that coming and filling that slot with another just as good while there was still time to get someone. You can not build and keep a top 10 program by putting everything they have planned on what a 18 year old may or may not do with them in the iffy mode already. Coaches including Dabo must go with their gut and get what they need of great quality, and not what they may have to except b/c a recruit they felt and saw wasn't going to be there when he needed them to be there....

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Re: This is the biggest decision of a 17 yr old's life.


Nov 21, 2014, 10:59 AM [ in reply to This is the biggest decision of a 17 yr old's life. ]

I don't see how anybody can excuse not living up to a commitment. Granted, he is young, but he made a promise. It was his decision then, and it was his decision now to back out. I don't blame him, if he wasn't sold on Clemson, but I certainly don't blame Dabo for looking into other recruits. Do you think it also is okay for Spurrier to commit to a player and then at the last minute to back out on him? What if that were your kid, and what if it is too late to go to another school he could have gone to had he known earlier that he was going to be shafted? Don't commit, if not sure. That is what Dabo tells them up front. To this kid's credit, it seems like he did tell Dabo he was looking around. That was the right thing to do when he had doubts. JMHO

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Re: This is the biggest decision of a 17 yr old's life.


Nov 21, 2014, 9:37 PM

You are absolutely right. And if someone was to tell you he was thinking about blowing your brains out, don't stand and wait b/c he was straight up and told you. You better get the H&ll away or get your gun. And that is what was happening in a since with this deal. He told Dabo he was still looking, and Dabo told him that he would be looking also to replace him....

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Re: This is the biggest decision of a 17 yr old's life.


Nov 23, 2014, 11:33 PM

Best that we prepare to move on since he is looking elsewhere. That is fair to both parties, IMO. It was his choice.

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Re: This is the biggest decision of a 17 yr old's life.


Nov 21, 2014, 8:15 PM [ in reply to This is the biggest decision of a 17 yr old's life. ]

COMMITMENT, commitment represents the inner fiber of what REAL TRUST WORTHY HONORABLE YOUNG AND OLDER MEN ARE ACTUALLY MADE OF. If this isn't you, please don't waste our time, b/c you're not made of what it takes to become a respectable, honorable, CLEMSON MAN!!!

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#1>>> the act of committing.

#2>>> the state of being committed.

#3>>> to bind or obligate, as by pledge or assurance; pledge:
to commit oneself to a promise; to be committed to a course of action.

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Good. Clemson's happy. Hopefully he is happy. Win, win


Nov 21, 2014, 8:22 PM [ in reply to This is the biggest decision of a 17 yr old's life. ]

for everybody.

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These kids know commitment ask them if their girl friends


Nov 23, 2014, 1:45 PM [ in reply to This is the biggest decision of a 17 yr old's life. ]

are committed. I bet they tell you they better be committed.

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Clemson commit so he had security, then when his fav


Nov 21, 2014, 10:12 AM [ in reply to Re: Football Recruiting Update: "Decision was mutual" between Briscoe and Clemson ]

schools finally caught on to how good he was they offered and he decided thats what he wanted. If that is what he wants then I am sure our coaches had some doubts when they accepted his commitment and knew he would take others if they ever offered. Is it not funny how quickly we recognize the talent of kids who arent immediate 5* players and then the bandwagon jumps on lol...

I like to think of it like this, if a player really loves Clemson and for whatever reason we do not pursue this recruit and he commits to another school, then we find out about him and offer, and then he switches his commitment to us. Would we then be angry or happy ? I hate to lose him and it sounds like we are no longer interested so he will not be wearing the Paw. We will replace him with no problem.


Best wishes to him wherever he ends up playing(except if he plays our Tigers).

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Re: Clemson commit so he had security, then when his fav


Nov 21, 2014, 11:18 AM

the difference here is that it seems that Clemson's coaching staff recognizes a players talents much faster and offers earlier. Then after a Clemson offer everyone says hey, he must be pretty good because Clemson offered this kid. Then they start getting all kinds of offers from a lot of big schools. Maybe the coaches should to silent offers to the players and see how that goes. good luck to the kid and Go Tigers.

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"He visited schools he did like" Sounds like sour grapes


Nov 21, 2014, 10:06 AM

for the coach

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Re: "He visited schools he did like" Sounds like sour grapes


Nov 21, 2014, 10:21 AM

Just means he likely had pre-determined favorites he was hoping for, but none at that time offered. (would be the same as if you were possibly a Tiger fan your whole life but never received an offer from Clemson...or you knew you wanted to play in California but none of the California teams at the time offered and you weren't going to refuse a chance to play on scholarship).

To me, as long as he is fine if we continue recruiting and understands his offer could potentially be off the table with a big pick-up, then I think it was handled well.

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Mighty fine line you're walking


Nov 21, 2014, 10:28 AM

Like someone else said, this is by far the biggest deciding decisions these players have faced. You don't want any of your verbally committed players taking visits, but on the other hand you're steadily trying to poach guys who are verbally committed elsewhere. That's a fine line that I'm glad I'm not having to tiptoe

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Re: Mighty fine line you're walking


Nov 21, 2014, 7:30 PM

you sir are correct. but dabo does not agree with you. it is called having your cake and eating it also or as some may say being a hypocrite. me, I call it the dabo rule, because everyone has a different way of explaining it and none are the same.

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Re: Mighty fine line you're walking


Nov 21, 2014, 7:34 PM

OSU is his dream school , and he also liked PSU. I don't blame the kid , and this is really no huge loss . Clemson is gonna be alright.

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DB23


When we land Lewis, we will forget about Briscoe.


Nov 21, 2014, 10:21 AM

;)

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Lewis?***


Nov 21, 2014, 12:38 PM



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Re: When we land Lewis, we will forget about Briscoe.


Nov 21, 2014, 9:42 PM [ in reply to When we land Lewis, we will forget about Briscoe. ]

R we going to get Lewis????????????????????????????

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Re: Football Recruiting Update: "Decision was mutual" between Briscoe and Clemson


Nov 21, 2014, 11:14 AM

Clemson is one of those schools that when we offer and you commit, Clemson does not back out of that committment. Clemson then will target other recruits for other positions and start to pass on others.
Before a player commits to Clemson, he is told what that means.

If Clemson wants to continue to look at his person, they will. However, as my grandfather taught me, about the only thing the government cannot steal is your word.

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Re: Football Recruiting Update: "Decision was mutual" between Briscoe and Clemson


Nov 21, 2014, 9:40 PM

Very smart man!!!!

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Thats a freakin lie..... The kid didn't tell anyone he was..


Nov 21, 2014, 2:49 PM

....going to take an official visit anywhere. Going to visit and taking an official are 2 different things. So someone from Clemson gave the kid a call and let him know they were taking him off the commitment board and gave him 24 hours to let everyone know whether social media or whatever way he wants to let people know before Clemson would report it. So now people think he decommitted when in reality Clemson relieved him of his commitment. All Dabo ask from his kids is that you talk with them before you go and take officials....

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Like Dabo says, I think an early signing period would fix


Nov 21, 2014, 6:22 PM

this...

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Re: Like Dabo says, I think an early signing period would fix


Nov 21, 2014, 7:22 PM

Departure is for the best. If he was all that we wouldn't give up on him.

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Re: Football Recruiting Update: "Decision was mutual" between Briscoe and Clemson


Nov 21, 2014, 7:41 PM

Not a Tiger so I don't care

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Re: Football Recruiting Update: "Decision was mutual" between Briscoe and Clemson


Nov 21, 2014, 8:13 PM

That didn't sound mutual to me b/c, it sounded like Clemson just cut him lose, period, and it really didn't leave him much of a choice did it!!! He was doing the exact opposite of what we ask of them, and if you caught cheating on us, you're done!!!

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Yeah I Told My Finance A Month Before The Wedding I Want to


Nov 24, 2014, 8:55 AM

Bang Some Other Chicks.....It Was Mutual.

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