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go lawyers, go lawyers, the trough is open! oink, oink, oink!***
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Jun 11, 2025, 4:38 PM
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Orange Blooded [2406]
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Re: First challenge to the House Settlement
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Jun 11, 2025, 4:49 PM
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Title IX should be scrapped. It's Unconstitutional and quite frankly un-American to force ANY segment of our population to support something that has ZERO profitability. If that's the case we as a population should force politicians to invest in unprofitable stocks bc there is no difference. I can't help that 99.9999% of women sports has zero money making ability. Not only do we force universities to throw money into a sink hole we then claim these same schools are taking advantage of student athletes that most have little chance for a full ride at a secondary education and force these schools to share what little profit they do make with them. It's nothing more than socialist idealogy creeping in to federally supported entities in the name of "fairness".
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Orange Blooded [2429]
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Re: First challenge to the House Settlement
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Jun 11, 2025, 5:11 PM
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Totally agree. Congress should exempt football and men's basketball from Title IX.
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Re: First challenge to the House Settlement
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Jun 11, 2025, 5:32 PM
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Then you would agree that our men's soccer program, baseball program, track program, golf program, and so on should also be scrapped.
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Dynasty Maker [3203]
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Re: First challenge to the House Settlement
Jun 11, 2025, 7:16 PM
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I agree with the OP that putting football (and maybe men's basketball) into its own category would make a lot more sense. However, I very much disagree with the rest. I don't want to see any of the other sports get scrapped, male or female. I just wish that those non-revenue men's programs you listed were given the same type of protection that the non-revenue women's programs receive.
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Head Coach [946]
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Re: First challenge to the House Settlement
Jun 11, 2025, 7:05 PM
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The purpose of inter collegiate athletics was never supposed to be in connection to a for profit enterprise..the vast majority of colleges in the NCAA are either non profit state institutions or non profit private (often religiously affiliated ) institutions.
NIL and this pay for play revenue deal are something very different than the scholarships and funding imagined job 1972.
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It didn't used to be.
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Jun 12, 2025, 12:25 PM
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But universities decided decades ago that making money was the primary reason college football (and hoops) was on campus. Everything else is secondary. Every action taken by univeristies (the NCAA) is focused on "how will this affect our revenue?"
Money, not academics, not "the educational experience," not the old college spirit, drives the train.
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Re: First challenge to the House Settlement
Jun 12, 2025, 11:54 AM
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So the only things with value in your world are those that make money? What a horrible way to see the world…
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Re: First challenge to the House Settlement
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Jun 11, 2025, 4:54 PM
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This was absolutely going to happen and the end result will be after court case after court case, the deal will be scrapped and athlete's pay will be on a more equal basis.
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Re: First challenge to the House Settlement
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Jun 11, 2025, 5:00 PM
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College football has been destroyed
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Top TigerNet [30182]
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"More equal basis" is the rub.
Jun 12, 2025, 12:31 PM
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I taught math at a community college. Should I have been paid the same as a person who taught math at Clemson? We both had the same title of "Professor of Mathematics." Does that mean we were doing the same job and deserved the same pay?
How do you determine what equal pay is for Caitlyn Clark (when at Iowa) and Cooper Flagg his freshman year at Duke?
How do you determine what is equal pay for a male swimmer who is all-conference vs a female tennis player who won the NCAA championships?
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Re: First challenge to the House Settlement
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Jun 11, 2025, 5:02 PM
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This specific lawsuit is about how backpay is being calculated. However it's only a matter of time before a lawsuit is filed because 99% of college athlete pay going forward is going to mens teams. We all know why that is but doesn't matter to the perpetually aggrieved crowd. They want theirs whether they deserve it or not.
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Re: First challenge to the House Settlement
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Jun 11, 2025, 5:28 PM
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And if the governing body determines they deserve it, will you be joining the perpetually aggrieved crowd?
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Re: First challenge to the House Settlement
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Jun 11, 2025, 5:30 PM
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EXACTLY WHAT I PREDICTED!
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Re: First challenge to the House Settlement
Jun 11, 2025, 5:39 PM
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Just so glad my son did not want to be a lawyer. Born with dollar signs in their eyes. Not all but many.
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Re: First challenge to the House Settlement
Jun 11, 2025, 5:44 PM
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I assume this is from Tennessee. Fighting for zero rules or structure again.
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Re: First challenge to the House Settlement
Jun 12, 2025, 9:09 AM
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SMH. Most schools have more women's sports than men's. If they truly want equity then they can start cutting women's sports. So scholarships, training, mentoring, networking etc. are meaningless? A true cynic can know the price of everything but the see the value in nothing. Knew the ceasefire wouldn't last but the insanity basically didn't even stop for a day.
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Top TigerNet [30182]
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First of many.
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Jun 12, 2025, 10:28 AM
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Will be in litigation for a decade.
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1st Rounder [664]
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Re: First of many.
Jun 12, 2025, 11:37 AM
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Which is probably the real goal. This very well could be a new cottage industry. Calling lawyers bloodsuckers is an insult to mosquitoes and other parasites.
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Top TigerNet [30182]
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Here is the major legal grounds...
Jun 12, 2025, 11:50 AM
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.... as it was explained to me by an attorney.
When you are paying people but do not consider them employees you are very limited on what the contracts can allow or prohibit concerning money from outside sources.
Example: PGA Tour cannot tell Nike what they can or cannot pay Scottie Scheffler.
Example: If a young tennis player has turned pro and is trying to work his way up the ladder but needs financial help the ATP cannot tell his rich friend, "You cannot pay him a stipend of $5000 a week while he's playing minor events."
That sort of stuff. Those restrictions have to be negotiated and approved by both parties. Hard to do when they aren't employees.
As for Title IX, since we don't even know what a woman is I have no idea how the courts can decide what equal compensation for women should be.
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Re: First challenge to the House Settlement
Jun 12, 2025, 12:28 PM
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Maybe it's time to scrap Title IX.
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Re: First challenge to the House Settlement
Jun 12, 2025, 3:15 PM
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I think you can cleanly remove NIL and these revenue payments from the Scholarships and other benefits addressed by the Title.
I also don’t really understand the point in having scholarships in sports where the schools are just going to pay kids directly.
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