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FB Update: Pagano says goodbye to Clemson
Feb 17, 2017, 2:07 PM
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Dang Confetti....
Feb 17, 2017, 2:16 PM
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Re: FB Update: Pagano says goodbye to Clemson
Feb 17, 2017, 2:18 PM
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I believe him when he writes all of this, but why would he leave this program for any other, if he truly believes what he just wrote? I don't get it. What am I missing?
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Re: FB Update: Pagano says goodbye to Clemson
Feb 17, 2017, 2:22 PM
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He wants to be closer to home. Probably going to play near the west coast. Also can probably start anywhere else
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Re: FB Update: Pagano says goodbye to Clemson
Feb 17, 2017, 2:22 PM
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He wants to be closer to home. Probably going to play near the west coast. Also can probably start anywhere else
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Re: FB Update: Pagano says goodbye to Clemson
Feb 17, 2017, 2:22 PM
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He wants to be closer to home. Probably going to play near the west coast. Also can probably start anywhere else
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Let me get this strait, you believe he wants to be closer to home
Feb 18, 2017, 9:19 PM
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And that he can start anywhere he wants...right? ??
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Re: FB Update: Pagano says goodbye to Clemson
Feb 17, 2017, 2:27 PM
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I'd imagine one of the things you're missing is the pressure these kids are under. What if you knew your next year could change your life by possibly tens of millions? What if you had pro scouts and agents and the like chatting in your ear?
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My take
Feb 17, 2017, 2:33 PM
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While I believe him 100% in what he said, we are only privy to one side of the debate he was having. Ultimately all of the things he said can be true, and still the other side (be it playing closer to home, guaranteed starting, more playing time, different exposure, different schemes, or even a different graduate studies program) ended up being more important to him.
Can't fault him for that (not saying you are).
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Re: My take
Feb 17, 2017, 3:53 PM
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Your take makes sense in a selfish way. But at Clemson it's always been a two way street; quid pro quo, if you will. If he really cared about the program, it seems he would have announced before the recruiting deadline. He didn't. Why not? Maybe he did and we don't know about it. Could we have gotten a suitable recruit to replace in time (2017)? Why are some leaving before their time? This one's puzzling.
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Re: My take
Feb 18, 2017, 8:07 AM
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This definition not before his time. He's been at clemson 4yrs and earned his degree. That alone makes me proud to call him a Tiger. I honestly believe this is a business move. He needs to be on the field to give scouts more film. Gonna be hard to do that with Wilkins most likely moving back inside and Dex on the other. I belive that players know that certain players are better than they are. It they stick around and are just being prideful, an opportunity may pass them by. A good buddy of mine ( Bama fan) said it best. When you get to where clemson is now, get used to stuff like this happening........ not gonna lie......wish they would stay....GO TIGERS!!!!
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Re: My take
Feb 19, 2017, 8:36 AM
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It always gripes my ### when a kid transfers. You have these cheerleaders patting them on the back :"once a tiger always a tiger"! Horses ###! You stopped being a Tiger when you QUIT on us! Like Germans Hopper. NOT a Tiger. The truth came out. He did it for exposure to make it in the NFL. He feels because of Lawrence & Wilkins he wouldn't get much exposure. Well, here's a dude awakening son: if you can't beat those two out, the NFL isn't for you. Thank you for what you have done. But, you're a former Tiger. Is Russell Wilson identified with Wisconsin or NC State? I think it's despicable when a kid uses a scholarship to get a degree, then transfers & uses the last year of eligibility else where. The answer is always the last school they played at. Good luck Hawaiian Punch. Former Tiger.
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Re: My take
Feb 18, 2017, 8:57 PM
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A lot of competition is at ClemsoN now. Them young boys want to play!! No more haft stepping
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Re: My take - good "take", thanks!***
Feb 17, 2017, 6:31 PM
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Is this is a suggestion?***
Feb 18, 2017, 11:33 AM
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These days if a player feels like they can have a better
Feb 17, 2017, 2:50 PM
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chance to play and attract pro attention and they are legal to transfer, they do it. He trying to give himself a better chance to get drafted. He should have just saved a lot of time and said that.
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Re: These days if a player feels like they can have a better
Feb 17, 2017, 3:35 PM
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You should just save everyone time and say you're not a Clemson fan. You wrote a similar farewell letter after all, minus the grace that Pagano showed of course.
Don't make me link a screenshot again.
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Re: Hey remember this?
Feb 17, 2017, 3:45 PM
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Apparently she has run out of polite warnings with you. Lol.
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Re: Hey remember this?
Feb 17, 2017, 10:17 PM
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Who the heck wrote this? Why isn't his name revealed?
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Re: These days if a player feels like they can have a better
Feb 17, 2017, 3:46 PM
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Says the guy who wrote a long winded post about not caring if Clemson shut its doors. Maybe you should just save the time and stop pretending that you're a Clemson fan.
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Some people like change, even when the place they're in...
Feb 17, 2017, 3:26 PM
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is a good one.
For him, he's spent 4 years here, and accomplished graduating and winning a Natty.
For him, to start a graduate degree elsewhere(?), moving closer to Hawaii (?), maybe being the starter, day one at just about any other program (?), could all be factors for his decision.
I'm not going to fault him for any of the above. He gave himself to the program as we are better b/c of it. I will follow him and cheer for him (unless he's playing for us).
In some ways, I kinda want to see him go Pac 12 and just terrorize the offensive lines out there. LOL!!
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Yeah that just seems odd
Feb 17, 2017, 3:28 PM
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If he loves Clemson so much (and I know he does) then you'd think he'd give anything to play one more year here. He has his reasons and I wish him luck but it just seems off to think that going to a new school/team/players/coaches/scheme for one year is going to advance his career better than him staying. Just my two cents.
Go Tigers
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Re: FB Update: Pagano says goodbye to Clemson
Feb 17, 2017, 6:14 PM
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He can go to a program that doesn't have a 8 man DL rotation. He will be able to get a lot more snaps at another school is what I'm thinking.
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maybe I missed an article but I have not seen
Feb 17, 2017, 7:42 PM
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where he has said, "I'm leaving because..." Other than assumptions do we know really why he is quitting?
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Pagano = #LEGENDARY
Feb 17, 2017, 3:30 PM
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Thank you for being a part of the Clemson family!
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Re: FB Update: Pagano says goodbye to Clemson
Feb 17, 2017, 3:46 PM
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There goes our Throwin' Samoan... QQ
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Re: FB Update: Pagano says goodbye to Clemson
Feb 17, 2017, 3:49 PM
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He has been a fine representative of the football team and they iversity for four years. For that i thank him and wish him well. As for his reasons for departing, as with anyone else it would just be speculation. I will ask tbis however. Is he gonna replace Big Dex next year? As most suppose Wilkins moves back inside to DT, does Pagano replace Christian as a starter? If your answer to both of those is no, you likely have the answer. Look, the dude is darn good. But those two cats mentioned are just special. He could transfer to a whole lot of places.. say maybe SMU, or as stated by others, closer to home, and feast on the competition, and likely get a lot more looks by NFL scouts. For all those who love to throw around the "afraid of competition" line that usually happens, I would ask, what would you do? I mean, it's only your life and financial future. Kudos to this young man, ad thanks for all he has done. Go Tigers!
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Re: FB Update: Pagano says goodbye to Clemson
Feb 17, 2017, 5:09 PM
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Ding ding ding somebody is paying attention. This is likely a good sign that we think we'll get better DE play next year so Wilkins is back up the middle with Dex. Pagano is a great football player and will make the NFL for sure but is not necessarily a first rounder. With ONE more season left and a natty in hand I would probably go to a place where I could get as many reps as possible too. He's literally competing against 2 younger first round players. Clemson is lucky to have had Pagano and I wish him the best at his next stop.
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Re: FB Update: Pagano says goodbye to Clemson
Feb 17, 2017, 4:31 PM
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Best wishes young man go out and live your Dream. You have got to do what's best for you and CLEMSON will not miss a beat without you. So leave knowing it's all good and CLEMSON nation will still be pulling for you.
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best of luck, young man....
Feb 17, 2017, 5:59 PM
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you've earned our support, admiration, and brotherhood.
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Hate seeing him leave. He's been one of my favorite since day 1***
Feb 17, 2017, 6:00 PM
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I wish Baker and Pagano the best, but!!!
Feb 17, 2017, 6:23 PM
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Their timing was auful....No, I don't know ALL the insides & out- but they should had made this public alot sooner.
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Re: I wish Baker and Pagano the best, but!!!
Feb 18, 2017, 4:17 PM
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Uea, does this badically mean 2 more scholarships available? Could have used them this year? Maybe we should start 'over recruiting'
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classy exit, scott..best wishes to a fellow alum!***
Feb 17, 2017, 6:38 PM
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Hope all your football dreams become reality and thanks for
Feb 17, 2017, 8:53 PM
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being a TIGER!
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Re: FB Update: Pagano says goodbye to Clemson
Feb 17, 2017, 10:32 PM
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Best wishes Scott! We'll be watching for you and cheering for you, wherever you end up! Thanks for all you have done! God bless you and your family!
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Thank you Scott! My kids appreciated always signing for them
Feb 18, 2017, 10:13 AM
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Nothing like seeing Big Pagano come down Tiger Walk with his leis draped over him preparing for battle! You were a huge part of our national championship and that stout line. Will always remember how you went about your work! Appreciate all your sacrifice and you and your mom and family coming all the way over here for Clemson! I wish you well and thanks again from Clemson Nation!
Wear the Paw always!
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Re: FB Update: Pagano says goodbye to Clemson
Feb 18, 2017, 10:46 AM
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You will be missed. Thanks for all of your hard work. The only part about these transfers that I don't understand is the timing. It would have been nice to know before NSD so that we could have used these spots to offer a couple more scholarships.
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Re: FB Update: Pagano says goodbye to Clemson
Feb 18, 2017, 11:06 AM
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Best of luck Scott with football and life's journeys. You made an impact on the BEST TEAM in the nation. Tigernation is grateful you chose Clemson. We will MISS YOU this upcoming season. P.S. Congrats on your degree.
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Mahalo and Aloha
Feb 18, 2017, 1:36 PM
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\m/
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who's cutting the onions!!! stop it***
Feb 20, 2017, 12:25 PM
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nm
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