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Ring of Honor [22922]
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Every sports website I go to has a link to Dabo's
Oct 23, 2013, 12:40 PM
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"we'd probably win 5"
Let me preface this by saying I am a Dabo fan.
However, I hope he realizes how stupid that statement is. The Tigers just suffered a historic loss at home nonetheless at the hands of FSU, and he has that to say?
It makes him look delusional and it makes Clemson look bad as well.
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kinda comes off as playing off the loss as not
Oct 23, 2013, 12:45 PM
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that big a deal. Which is what Philpot was trying to do yesterday with his "a win over maryland will erase a lot of the FSU game"
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Game Day Hero [4125]
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Re: Every sports website I go to has a link to Dabo's
Oct 23, 2013, 12:46 PM
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It's because the original article was put out by the AP. Most of the major news sites feed off the AP and most of the smaller sites feed off the major news sites so...there you go.
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Orange Blooded [2929]
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Re: Every sports website I go to has a link to Dabo's
Oct 23, 2013, 12:47 PM
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Yeah the coots will have a field day with this.
Although they lost to Rocky Top, so they can't really say that much.
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CU Guru [1346]
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You'd prefer he throw team and coaches under the bus
Oct 23, 2013, 12:48 PM
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in public?
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Ring of Honor [22922]
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You dont have to throw someone under the bus to keep from
Oct 23, 2013, 12:49 PM
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saying something as idiotic as that.
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Ring of Honor [22922]
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He should take the blame and say we didnt play our game
Oct 23, 2013, 12:53 PM
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and leave it at that. No making stupid statements and no throwing anyone under the bus.
It's simple and it bothers me that he went out of his way to say this nonsense.
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CU Guru [1346]
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Words mean a lot less than outcome and performance
Oct 23, 2013, 1:13 PM
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I see that his words get under your skin. For me, I expect coaches to make nearly meaningless or overly optimistic statements in public. I'd rather he make statements people see as "silly" or "egotistical" or whatever, as long as it helps build the team's confidence. Who knows, maybe if he just said he got beat and left it at that some players might feel a little dissed.
And as far as I recall, Dabo did say the team didn't play the way they are capable. He just didn't put it in the words so many of us have been using in the forums (me included)!!!
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Ring of Honor [22922]
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The one part of your response that irks me is....
Oct 23, 2013, 1:19 PM
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"Who knows, maybe if he just said he got beat and left it at that some players might feel a little dissed."
After this game the players ought to be a little butthurt/dissed.
Take responsibility, keep your mouth shut, and go to work. That's what leaders do.
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Re: The one part of your response that irks me is....
Oct 23, 2013, 1:24 PM
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He should speak to the players in the locker room, not on the national media.
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CU Guru [1346]
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I have little doubt his words in practice are different
Oct 23, 2013, 1:27 PM
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from his words in public.
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CU Guru [1346]
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Can you point to any player you think or see isn't
Oct 23, 2013, 1:26 PM
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feeling butthurt/dissed as you say?
We just disagree about Dabo. I was a lot more irritated when he stepped in front of a microphone year 1 and 2. Back when he used to jump all over the sidelines like a kid. He has 'matured' a little and most of his public statements don't strike me as that outrageous or out of line. A little egotistical? Maybe. Just not the same noise that we used to hear. In two years, he might sound even MORE composed and professional. It's not like he's Saban's age. Heck, he's even a wee bit younger than Jimbo Fisher. He'll grow. At least that's my opinion....
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Ring of Honor [22922]
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you made the point that maybe if he says we just got beat
Oct 23, 2013, 1:35 PM
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it'll hurt the players feelings....
My response to that is that after the way they played Saturday night they deserve to have their feelings hurt.
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Re: you made the point that maybe if he says we just got beat
Oct 23, 2013, 1:44 PM
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You have NO clue what Dabo told the team!!!
You really can't be this dumb
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Ring of Honor [22922]
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reading comprehension is lacking in this one***
Oct 23, 2013, 1:45 PM
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CU Guru [1346]
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My point is this: criticizing in public versus one-on-one
Oct 23, 2013, 2:10 PM
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is the difference. We can't know for sure, but I have to think the players that underperformed consistently (most??) are getting an "adjustment" from ALL the coaches this week. In private. In practice.
It just looks to me that it is Dabo's style to make over-positive statements for the benefit of his team (in his eyes) and not for himself or the fans. It's possible that if he just let it go with a negative statement, he might lose a little of whatever he is trying to get out of the team and each player. Respect. Dedication. Pick your poster-word.
You may disagree but I doubt any player is feeling 'coddled' this week. Could be wrong, but I doubt it.
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All-In [27366]
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Is "dichotomy" latin for "#######"
Oct 23, 2013, 9:29 PM
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'Cause that's how they 'argue.'
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Clemson Icon [24245]
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Could someone fluent in partisan nonsense please
Oct 24, 2013, 10:28 AM
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translate this for me.
Use it or lose it, as they say.
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All-In [27366]
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Translation: You are correct, it is a 'false dichotomy',
Oct 24, 2013, 10:55 AM
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which is a favorite method of rhetoric for 'libtards.'
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Re: Every sports website I go to has a link to Dabo's
Oct 23, 2013, 1:43 PM
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Why don't you ask Dabo but before you do give all about 2 hrs to draw a crowd.
So we can watch him curb stomp your a$$
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Ring of Honor [22922]
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LOL***
Oct 23, 2013, 1:46 PM
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I suffer when I say TiGERs win 2 of 10...or 3 of 10 at best
Oct 23, 2013, 1:52 PM
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GoTiGERS...bring the Terp Soup back home to TigerTown!
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Paw Master [17606]
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Agree it would be a ridiculous statement for you or me to
Oct 23, 2013, 2:01 PM
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Make, but what SHOULD he say as coach of the team?
"If we played them 10 times, this would probably be the closest game of the 10. However bad we looked on Saturday, we are even worse. And however good they looked, they are even better. Can we go ahead and forfeit the game in Tally next season?"
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Ring of Honor [22922]
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Why bring up "if we played 10 times"?? that's the point.***
Oct 23, 2013, 2:04 PM
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Paw Master [17606]
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How's this, then?
Oct 23, 2013, 2:12 PM
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"I am not sure why these idiot players ever came to school here. We are clearly an afterthought in the ACC Atlantic. Hopefully any committed recruits will reconsider coming here, and any considering us will wake up and realize that all hope is lost. Boo hoo. Woe is me!"
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Clemson Icon [24245]
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Maybe something closer to this....
Oct 23, 2013, 2:18 PM
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____________.
See what I did there?
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Paw Master [17606]
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Because so many coaches just refuse to talk to the media
Oct 23, 2013, 2:21 PM
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Maybe he could just lip quiver, take his ball, and go home
We both know that saying nothing is not an option. As coach, what would YOU say?
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Clemson Icon [24245]
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Re: Because so many coaches just refuse to talk to the media
Oct 23, 2013, 2:25 PM
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My dear fellow Clemson fan, what I mean to say is NOT that Dabo should refuse to talk to the media. What I mean to say is that Dabo SHOULD talk to the media, and be optimistic, and defend his players, and point out the positive. That's fine and great. Here is the confusing part for a lot of people (for whatever reason)...
Dabo should say a little less. In this case, to be more specific, Dabo should have not said the idiot comment we are referring to. So, before you asked "what else should he have said".... I pray that you will understand what I mean when I say...nothing. That doesn't mean don't give a press conference, it means, leave out the stupid comments. I refuse to believe that any T-Netter can't understand that.
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Paw Master [17606]
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Maybe he can be a patronizing, self important blowhard
Oct 23, 2013, 8:28 PM
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See what I did there?
I am a Clemson fan and a Clemson alumnus, and I resent your arrogant tone. Maybe Dabo wishes he could have that comment back. Clearly you do, and so do I.
But he is a grown man capable of making his own decisions...and press statements...and accepting their consequences.
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Clemson Icon [24245]
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I don't think my patronizing tone is any worse than your
Oct 23, 2013, 8:52 PM
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earlier hyperbole and false dichotomy. Two different shades of annoying.
And I pretty much agree with everything you said excluding the blowhard part and the insinuation that the consequences of Dabo's words are his alone. We all pay, albeit in minor fashion, when Clemson's reputation is damaged.
Him accepting consequences A. probably won't happen because he never backs off of his statements and B. doesn't erase him associating dumb statements with Clemson football.
And I wasn't directing all of that sarcasm at you. It was directed at the mass of people who keep going back to that d@mn false dichotomy.
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Paw Master [17606]
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So you are saying
Oct 23, 2013, 9:36 PM
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We would win three out of 10?
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Clemson Icon [24245]
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I'm taking my meter and going home.***
Oct 24, 2013, 10:25 AM
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Personally I would have said...
Oct 23, 2013, 3:30 PM
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We got our butts kicked by a very good football team. I think that we are a very good football team too but we certainly didn't show it. Give credit to FSU for taking advantage of our poor play and putting us away early. We will work on our mistakes and get ready for Maryland.
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That sounds about right. Nobody thrown under the bus,
Oct 23, 2013, 3:39 PM
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not negative, and no outlandish statement made.
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Ring of Honor [22922]
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I love how all of you guys go to opposite extreme when
Oct 23, 2013, 2:23 PM
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there is a happy medium. I love how you assume he has to replace this statement with something overly negative. He doesn't.
You don't have to tear the team or coaches down in the media.
But you also don't belittle a team that just let loose a historic beatdown on you. It makes you look like an idiot.
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Big if
Oct 23, 2013, 4:22 PM
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Odds on Dabo playing FSU ten
more times?
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Re: Big if
Oct 23, 2013, 6:22 PM
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slim and none and slim just left town.
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Tip for living life: Stop going to all of those websites...
Oct 23, 2013, 6:53 PM
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Then, stop worrying so much about what someone else said.
You'll live longer, and happier.
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Orange Blooded [2609]
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not stupid at all...but you are***
Oct 23, 2013, 8:39 PM
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Re: not stupid at all...but you are***
Oct 24, 2013, 8:51 AM
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Re: Every sports website I go to has a link to Dabo's
Oct 23, 2013, 8:57 PM
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Norther Tiger
I like your train of thought. I thought Dabo was a joke 3 years ago with his antics, lack of Xs and Os, and jumping up and down on the sidelines (Many of you liked that but I am not a bad guy for thinking it was Busch League)
However, he has matured and come into his own. I could do without the clichés and the ridiculous statement about 5 out of 10 but he is really turning into what seems to be a good CEO. He is not a play caller, he is not a defensive or offensive genius. He is a great recruiter and knows he can get good players and turn them over to good Coordinators. That sounds like someone who knows his limitations and capabilities and that is what makes a good leader.
I thought he took a step back to his old ways with the ridiculous statement when he could simply say hey, they beat us and we will go back to work hard and get better and get them next time
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Re: Every sports website I go to has a link to Dabo's
Oct 23, 2013, 9:17 PM
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It is what it is Ron!
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Dabo's proved everyone wrong before
Oct 23, 2013, 9:18 PM
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I doubt he cares too much.
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forfeit?
Oct 23, 2013, 9:53 PM
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Heck after reading mcply's BS about it all being recruiting, maybe that's what he thinks we should do.
I truly am dreading work tomorrow more than I was on Monday.
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At least he didn't say, "we had them right where we wanted."
Oct 23, 2013, 10:43 PM
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That would have been Dabo-epic.
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Orange Blooded [4506]
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Love how you preface by saying you're a Dabo FAN.
Oct 24, 2013, 9:53 AM
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Then why start this thread???????????? As if nobody but you had heard the statement before .
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Ring of Honor [22922]
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Because I disagree with what he said. that's why.
Oct 24, 2013, 10:17 AM
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I'm also a Clemson Athletics fan but if I disagree with how something is done I will voice my opinion.
I'm a fan of my dad but he says something stupid I'll call him out for it.
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Orange Blooded [4506]
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You've voiced your opinion like over and over and over.
Oct 24, 2013, 11:38 AM
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We GET IT. You didn't like the statement. WE GET IT. Move on. The statement can never be taken back. NEVER. Do you keep calling your Dad out over and over and over. Hopefully not.
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Ring of Honor [22922]
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LOL
Oct 24, 2013, 11:39 AM
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You guys are the ones responding to me and I need to drop it.
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Orange Blooded [2425]
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Re: Every sports website I go to has a link to Dabo's
Oct 24, 2013, 10:03 AM
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our coach believes in his team. Still dont see the big deal here.
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Re: Every sports website I go to has a link to Dabo's
Oct 24, 2013, 10:06 AM
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Exactly. I guess most would rather him say man we got our a$$es handed to us and I'm sure glad we don't have to play them again! Because that would make our players feel really confident moving on to finish out the rest of the season.
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Ring of Honor [22922]
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He didnt have to make the statement he made.
Oct 24, 2013, 10:20 AM
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How hard is that to understand?
Are you guys really so dense to believe that had he not made this statement he was just rolling over and taking it?
You don't make this statement about a team that just laid a historic whipping on you at your house on the biggest stage possible. It's stupid and deluded.
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Re: Every sports website I go to has a link to Dabo's
Oct 24, 2013, 10:10 AM
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It's true though
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