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Transfer Portal Woes
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Transfer Portal Woes

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Sep 23, 2024, 3:40 PM

The other side of the coin... And don't shoot the messenger... https://www.technicianonline.com/sports/column-nc-state-football-is-proving-how-dangerous-it-is-to-build-through-the-transfer/article_1dc116c6-786c-11ef-9248-23e3767e3852.html

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95% ± of your roster should be .....

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Sep 23, 2024, 3:46 PM

from the HS ranks. Only use portal to sprinkle in for unavoidable needs in today's environment. Only schools that are a total shit-show should rely on portal more than that. And then, only temporarily. Russian roulette to depend on the portal year after year for the majority of your talent acquisition. fsu is learning that the hard way.....

You can find stories from both sides. Just like HS recruiting, you better assess well so they "hit" as CDS likes to say.

A way better comparable to CLEM would be how BAMA, UGA and OSU have used it. NCSU isn't a comp.

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correct....

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Sep 23, 2024, 4:06 PM

BUILDING through the portal will fail in the long run.

SUPPLEMENTING with ~4-6/year is a must to compensate for positional deficiencies and/or defections.........which EVERYONE has EVERY year.

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Re: correct....

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Sep 23, 2024, 4:31 PM

I believe to get the best players from the portal, a huge NIL bank is absolutely necessary, or you'll be wasting time and money!!!

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Re: correct....

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Sep 23, 2024, 4:31 PM

And is true to get most of best kids from HS now......

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Re: correct....

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Sep 23, 2024, 4:49 PM

Tampering plus a bag of money …oh also you need to basically guarantee a starting position…

That’s the formula for UGA and their ilk..

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There is no such thing as tampering.


Sep 24, 2024, 1:30 PM

Obsolete term that the NCAA uses to defend another aspect of their illegal sports model.

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Re: correct.... Exactly, right!

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Sep 24, 2024, 6:41 PM [ in reply to Re: correct.... ]

CU51996 said:

Tampering plus a bag of money …oh also you need to basically guarantee a starting position…

That’s the formula for UGA and their ilk..




The aim is still to get good players on your campus to stay as long as possible. With any luck, and likely NIL $$ you keep good players around. And, of course, you bring in new good players yearly as well.

As you said here, "plug in any unforeseen gaps with portal players" only if needed!

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That 95% is too arbitrary and unscientific.


Sep 24, 2024, 1:29 PM [ in reply to 95% ± of your roster should be ..... ]

It assumes that every team's needs are the same. They aren't.

It assumes steady graduation rates and transfer rates across the board. Those things don't happen.

It assumes every HC has the same philosophy and the same methodology. They don't.

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For teams that consistently recruit well, that percentage seems appropriate***


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Apples to apples

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Sep 23, 2024, 8:16 PM

Tennessee, a heavy portal user, blew them out, too.

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Re: Apples to apples. . . . Not!

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Sep 24, 2024, 6:38 PM

I wouldn't call them heavy portal users.

They certainly are heavy portal "losers"! As they lost a bunch in the portal as well.

https://www.on3.com/college/tennessee-volunteers/transfer-portal/wire/football/2024/

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If losing players to the portal is "use"


Sep 24, 2024, 6:42 PM

then Dabo is the portal king.

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Re: If losing players to the portal is "use"

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Sep 24, 2024, 7:56 PM

Dabo has proven that he can field a top 20 team every season by just recruiting HS talent!!!

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Re: If losing players to the portal is "use"


Sep 24, 2024, 8:25 PM


Dabo has proven that he can field a top 20 team every season by just recruiting HS talent!!!




Exactly right!

Honestly, if we had even a Kelly Bryant level of QB play the last few seasons, I think we make it to the playoffs. And, a bunch of the nonsense goes away. I don't ever think KB would have beaten really good defenses, but he would have beaten the teams we should beat.

I think, with our defense last year, if we had a Tajh Boyd level QB - we likely challenge for a NC. My opinion, not law.

All the folks acting as if, Georgia was all portal or Michigan was nothing but portal are fooling themselves. They were not. They did fill some valuable spots at times; i'll give someone that - but the portal hasn't been the end all be all. Joe Burrow transferred before it was called the portal- doesn't count.
And, he went to a place with what would become 4 NFL WR's and a RB and TE destined for the league. Two of those WR's All Pro. Count that one player on a team full of players LSU recruited. Clemson could easily have been the same way - with a better offense the last few years.
5-star by recruiting ranking! So, can't say we fell off like that. 5-star players aren't going to schools that "aren't relavant" in today's world - get real!

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