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National Champion [7361]
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All of you upset about BB penalty
Nov 6, 2016, 3:46 PM
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It is a penalty if you pick a player off their feet and slam them to the ground. Do you guys not know the rules of football or what? What are yall mad about?
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Re: Why do the Gamecocks get away without a penalty here?
Nov 6, 2016, 3:52 PM
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Clearly should have been a yellow flag on the field. They let em play in the SEC.
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Re: Why do the Gamecocks get away without a penalty here?
Nov 6, 2016, 4:13 PM
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Every weekend something good. Maybe a little relations between a big girl and skinny bow tie wearing future low country congressman. Sometimes a little big girl on girl fighting. Love that place.
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Re: Cool. Point to the rule?
Nov 6, 2016, 4:26 PM
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Obviously, same as when u catch a ball, 2 feet in bounds in NFL so im sure its the same in college too.
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Re: Cool. Point to the rule?
Nov 6, 2016, 4:35 PM
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If they threw a flag and gave Cuse 15 yards it must have been a penalty. How can all of you criticize Jimbo and now do the same thing.
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Re: Cool. Point to the rule?
Nov 6, 2016, 4:42 PM
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> If they threw a flag and gave Cuse 15 yards it must
> have been a penalty. How can all of you criticize
> Jimbo and now do the same thing.
Sigh. Because a rule is a regulation that exists in a book.
It really did seem they sorta chucked a flag out there because, well, it looked kinda like Ric Flair hitting somebody with a folding chair, but it actually, according to the letter of the rules, very probably wasn't a foul.
Refs err. Nobody's claiming the refs cost us the game; we are wondering what rule exactly Boulware broke.
If you can find it, please direct us. Otherwise you are spouting your uninformed opinion...and portraying it as fact, which unless proven it is not.
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Re: Cool. Point to the rule?
Nov 6, 2016, 5:22 PM
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It is a rule i have seen it be called plenty of times. Idk where it is in the rule book but I am sure the refs know a little more about the rules than you or I.
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Re: Cool. Point to the rule?
Nov 6, 2016, 5:29 PM
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If that's the case then why did they call personal foul? Its not a personal foul by the rules. It was just a rough looking tackle and the refs felt obligated to throw a foul. Until you can pinpoint a rule saying it's illegal to pick a player up and tackle them, your point is moot. I dont care what someone fDOC says, show me the rulebook.
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Re: Cool. Point to the rule?
Nov 6, 2016, 5:30 PM
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Someone on FOX*
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Re: Cool. Point to the rule?
Nov 6, 2016, 5:34 PM
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Okay well I think the ref made it obvious it is a rule but live in denial idc.
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Totally.***
Nov 6, 2016, 6:20 PM
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Officials make mistakes, and personally, I like to
Nov 6, 2016, 4:44 PM
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understand the rules of the game. Officials have an incredibly tough job, but the integrity of the game depends in large part on them, and they should be held accountable and subject to scrutiny. Jimbo was whining because he lost, and he was wrong; replay cleary shows that the ref made the correct call. Me, I'm just trying to understand.
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Re: Cool. Point to the rule?
Nov 6, 2016, 4:57 PM
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They threw the flag because the whistle had blown and his foward progress had stopped. After that was when BB slammed him down. That's why they threw the flag, not because there's a rule saying you can't tackle like that. I've seen people tackled like that many times without a flag being thrown. So what are you talking about?
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Re: Cool. Point to the rule?
Nov 6, 2016, 5:23 PM
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I have seen it happen and a flag be thrown plenty of times. Maybe it is just a rule in the nfl but I would think it is all football.
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Orange Beast [6338]
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that is only on the nfl...
Nov 6, 2016, 8:48 PM
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the rule for college per NCAA
Use of Hands or Arms by Defense
ARTICLE 4. a. Defensive players may use hands and arms to push, pull,
ward off or lift offensive players when attempting to reach the runner and tackle the runner.
b.
Defensive players may not use hands and arms to tackle, hold or
otherwise illegally obstruct an opponent other than a ball carrier
The "tackling too hard" is a judgement call. You say you have seen it called, but I will say I have seen it plenty of times with no flag.
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Orange Beast [6338]
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the whistle had NOT blown...
Nov 6, 2016, 8:51 PM
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and his forward motion only stopped when Ben lifted him up. The runner was still trying to break free and actually turned himself around to go forward. Both legs were still grinding to go forward.
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Re: Cool. Point to the rule?
Nov 6, 2016, 9:13 PM
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"They threw the flag because the whistle had blown and his foward progress had stopped. After that was when BB slammed him down."
This is 100% false. Watched it several times today. The announcer said that the whistle had blown, but he was wrong too. 'Cuse player was in mid air when the whistle blew.
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It's funny that no one yet can point to the rule.
Nov 6, 2016, 4:33 PM
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It's "obvious" that it's illegal and every body "knows" that it's illegal, but nobody yet can show me the rule that prohibits it.
To be clear, I'm not saying it's not illegal, I'd just like to see the rule. I've scoured NCAA rules, particularly Rule 9 which covers persoanl fouls (which was the call) which includes all kinds of illegal tackles, as well as unsportsmanlike conduct, and I don't see it.
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Re: It's funny that no one yet can point to the rule.
Nov 6, 2016, 8:59 PM
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I personally think that it was a clean tackle and should not have been penalized. If a ref is going to call this, it would have to fall under the subjective umbrella of "un-necessary roughness." That call is a completely subjective call on the part of the official.
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Re: Cool. Point to the rule?
Nov 6, 2016, 4:34 PM
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Moneyman - Why do you care so much about trying to prove your point of a penalty being called on that play? You have gone above and beyond to try and prove your point.
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Re: Cool. Point to the rule?
Nov 6, 2016, 4:38 PM
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Because look at all the people complaining about it. It is illegal and Ben shouldnt have done it. Our boys need to know that it is illegal and BV acts like he didnt know. I am just tired of us critizing teams that complain about the refs and now look at us doing the same.
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Re: Cool. Point to the rule?
Nov 6, 2016, 4:42 PM
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Did you watch the game? Did you hear when the whistle was blown and where Ben and the Syracuse guy were when the whistle blew? Did you see that the guy would not go down? It may have looked rough - but thats football! I for one love the way Boulware plays the game.
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Re: How do you know it was illegal?***
Nov 6, 2016, 4:53 PM
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He doesn't
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Re: How do you know it was illegal?***
Nov 6, 2016, 5:26 PM
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I have seen it called before. You cannot body slam a guy like that. Idk where it is in the rule book but I have always heard it was illegal. Idk when they made the rule or if it is in the rule book but I have seen it called before. We need to talk to the NCAA and get this sorted out
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NOT A SPECIFIC RULE IN COLLEGE
Nov 6, 2016, 5:36 PM
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Please don't lie here on Tigernet. Official can call for excessive use of force. You should recant your incorrect post.
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Re: NOT A SPECIFIC RULE IN COLLEGE
Nov 6, 2016, 5:38 PM
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Lie about what. It may not be a written rule but you cant do it or u get a flag thrown. So call it what you want. Not a rule just gets a penalty flag thrown. Idk what to call it if not a rule.
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They didn't throw a flag on UGA when their
Nov 6, 2016, 9:03 PM
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LB did it to Hot Rod McDowell in our place a few years ago. Bottom line it is not a rule, the officials threw the flag b/c it happened on the Syracuse sideline and they were all begging for it.
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Um... so here's a lesson in reality....
Nov 7, 2016, 12:15 AM
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in college football, the rules are all written down. If it's not written down... it's not a rule.
Hope this helps.
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Orange Immortal [67936]
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Please point me to the rule regarding excessive force,
Nov 6, 2016, 5:46 PM
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or the rule which otherwise prohibited what Boulware did. The ref just can't make up rules and throw flags based on that.
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Re: Please point me to the rule regarding excessive force,
Nov 6, 2016, 5:48 PM
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Idk where you would find it I just know from watching football my whole life that it was illegal. I knew before they threw the flag. Maybe he can help you.
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I've been watching football a long time too, and I've seen
Nov 6, 2016, 5:56 PM
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it not called. I'm not trying to be argumentative, but would just like to see the rule and an explanation.
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Re: I've been watching football a long time too, and I've seen
Nov 6, 2016, 6:09 PM
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Oh I agree I have even seen Ben do it before. He didnt lift the player as high but iI was scared it would be called. I believe it was this year I dont remember what game. I have seen it both ways but I have heard it is illegal from a commentator during a game before.
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Unwritten rule?
Nov 6, 2016, 7:47 PM
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Can't imagine why we wouldn't want to write down an excellent rule such as this. I don't want to suggest something too radical here, but wouldn't it be very helpful if there were a list of these unwritten rules somewhere, perhaps compiled into a book?
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Should it be an unwritten book?
Nov 6, 2016, 7:50 PM
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Love to get that autographed by BB
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Re: Unwritten rule?
Nov 6, 2016, 8:18 PM
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> Can't imagine why we wouldn't want to write down an
> excellent rule such as this. I don't want to suggest
> something too radical here, but wouldn't it be very
> helpful if there were a list of these unwritten rules
> somewhere, perhaps compiled into a book?
You mean like an Unwritten Rule Book? Awesome idea.
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Because we did the same thing against USF in the bowl game
Nov 6, 2016, 10:04 PM
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and it was not flagged...
Was on a kickoff or punt return if I remember.
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That was a deep dig ... good find!***
Nov 7, 2016, 10:18 AM
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