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Contingency plan for ACC: what’s the next move if ND won’t join?
Jul 24, 2021, 7:06 PM
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They either need to lead, follow, or get outta the way.
A refusal from ND *should* mean no more of this pussyfoot, pseudo-conference partnership garbage from the Domers. It will require more than loose partnership to recruit against a 16-team SEC in our own back yards. What is the best scenario contingency given their refusal to officially join ACC?
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Re: Contingency plan for ACC: what’s the next move if ND won’t join?
Jul 24, 2021, 7:08 PM
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Realistically, if ND won't join they either decide to stay at 14+ND or go to 16 with West Virginia and Cincinnati.
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You think it signals resignation to mediocrity to invite WVU and Cincy
Jul 24, 2021, 7:16 PM
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instead of holding steady with the current arrangement?
If SEC can successfully woo UT and OU, I would not want the reciprocal play from the ACC commish to be some two-bit, paltry apology of a strategy undertaken simply in response to a power play…
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Re: You think it signals resignation to mediocrity to invite WVU and Cincy
Jul 24, 2021, 7:18 PM
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That's probably right. The SEC adding OK and UT adds value to the conference. The ACC adding WVU and Cincy just gets it to 16.
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Re: You think it signals resignation to mediocrity to invite WVU and Cincy
Jul 25, 2021, 1:57 PM
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Adding WVU and Cincinnati would actually DECREASE payouts per team in the ACC. It’s a stupid idea and the ACC will not do it.
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If Notre Dame doesn't join the ACC...then
Jul 24, 2021, 7:20 PM
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the ACC will dissolve. Frankly, in the current climate, ACC expansion isn't realistic. Then again...neither are conferences. The 'powers' of college football are consolidating into a fraternity...or two.
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Re: Contingency plan for ACC: what’s the next move if ND won’t join?
Jul 24, 2021, 8:08 PM
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May be the best thing would be to invite OSU, and Penn St to the ACC, or get FSU or Miami to come with us, and ask to join the Big 10. After the SEC brings in Texass, and Oklahoma, the ACC will become even a smaller little sister when being compared with a stronger SEC with Texass, and Oklahoma joining the SEC....
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Re: Contingency plan for ACC: what’s the next move if ND won’t join?
Jul 25, 2021, 1:45 PM
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if notre dame joins they "have" to join the acc. it is written. if all this stuff actually happens they will have to join.
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Re: Contingency plan for ACC: what’s the next move if ND won’t join?
Jul 24, 2021, 7:21 PM
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ACC should telling Notre Dame to be all in and let's go get Texas.
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Re: Contingency plan for ACC: what’s the next move if ND won’t join?
Jul 24, 2021, 7:55 PM
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Not sure you would want Texas in the league as Texas would know they have a ton of leverage as the ACC would need Texas to hold off the B1G and SEC
And Texas has shown, when they know they have leverage over a league, they will be huge #####.
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Re: Contingency plan for ACC: what’s the next move if ND won’t join?
Jul 24, 2021, 8:24 PM
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Maybe they think that. But with Notre Dame in, Texas doesn't have leverage over the ACC.
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Punt...
Jul 24, 2021, 8:01 PM
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Just sayin
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Don’t know. But ACC had the leverage last year and Swofford blew it.
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Jul 24, 2021, 8:11 PM
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Now ND has the leverage. We need them.
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Agreed. The entire spectacle that unfolded was basically Swofford drooling over ND’s coffers.
Jul 24, 2021, 8:50 PM
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Now they have the entire conference by the cojones.
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Re: Contingency plan for ACC: what’s the next move if ND won’t join?
Jul 24, 2021, 8:34 PM
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they wont join. so drop them now
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Re: Contingency plan for ACC: what’s the next move if ND won’t join?
Jul 24, 2021, 8:44 PM
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I’m really serious about this:
What about kicking out Wake Forest and giving their entire share to Penn State on top of whatever Penn State would make as a member?
The effects of this would be two-fold. It would greatly strengthen the ACC but it would also leave the ACC’s biggest competitor- the Big10 with an enormous problem. They’ll have Rutgers and Maryland just floating on an island completely disconnected from the rest of the league. Adding Rutgers and Maryland didn’t make much sense before but without Penn State it would be absolutely ridiculous.
So I think getting Penn State is actually more important than getting ND for the future of the ACC.
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Wake is a good move for AAC
Jul 24, 2021, 9:20 PM
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They ought to be hanging with East Carolina, Cincinnati, Charlotte and the like...
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Re: Contingency plan for ACC: what’s the next move if ND won’t join?
Jul 24, 2021, 10:01 PM
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would be great to get Penn State but I don't think that will happen. I would look at Baylor, opens Texas up to the ACC with good basketball and the football program has had it moments. Every laughs at Cinci but I think they could be a good addition. ND will have to do something, can't stay independent. I don't think West Virginia offers any benefit in anyway other than a pulse.
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Re: Contingency plan for ACC: what’s the next move if ND won’t join?
Jul 25, 2021, 2:32 PM
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The Big Ten adding Maryland and Rutgers made a ton of sense. It got the Big Ten into the big East coast markets of D.C, Baltimore, and NJ-New York City. Not sure why this is so hard to understand. In fact, that conference now has the TV markets of Jersey-NYC, Baltimore, D.C. Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Minneapolis-St Paul, Milwaukee, and Columbus - those are some huge markets. And before anyone laughs at the Columbus market, consider that the population inside the city limits of Columbus has exploded to around 950,000 with the suburbs adding up to 2.2 million.
I also saw a projection by 2024 - with the SEC adding OK and Texas - that they'll pay out approximately $90 million to each member while the Big Ten - staying put without any expansion - is projected to pay its members around $80 to 85 million. Both are double what the other conferences would pay,
Now with that said, why would any Big Ten member (like PSU) jump to the ACC ? It all boils down to TV sets and payouts - period !
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Re: It’s a blunt statement,
Jul 24, 2021, 10:04 PM
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ND is ND, and they will never join a football conference, regardless of money, or playoff potential. They get all the money the need, and they just ride history like a surf board....
Go Tigers!!!
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Re: It’s a blunt statement,
Jul 25, 2021, 2:42 PM
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ND is sort of like Texas - a spoiled brat that has to have everything their way. Will be interesting to see the relationship between Texas and other SEC members if the merger actually does take place.
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That won’t affect our recruiting at all IMO
Jul 25, 2021, 2:05 PM
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I can’t remember losing anyone in recent years because they wanted to play in the SEC. we lose players to big time programs but not conferences
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