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Comparison of CFP top 10 by game by QBR...
Dec 2, 2022, 4:27 PM
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I hesitated to post this because I'm not fully confident that the ESPN QBR metric is an exact science. But after digging into this a little I made the following chart where I highlighted all games played by the CFP top 10 teams and a few extras (UNC, LSU, and FSU). The yellow highlighted games are the ones where a QB had a QBR of less than 55. From what I've seen a QBR rating of 55 to 59 is "average", 60 - 65 is "good" and anything above 66 is "very good".
Ultimately the QBR metric seems to confirm what we already know - DJ has had way too many games (half of our games - 6) below average to terrible. Most of the rated teams only have one or two games where their QB's dipped into the below average QBR category. Some like UGA, USC, and Ohio State have no games with below average QBR ratings.
Another tidbit that could be affecting DJ's QBR rankings is the play of our receivers. Qualkenbush rattled of an interesting catch rate statistic (ratio of catches to targets) today for anyone who has been targeted 10 or more times:
RB's: Mafah - 73% Shipley - 86%
TE's: Allen - 70% Briningstool - 66%
WR's: Ngata - 52% EJ Williams - 32% B. Collins - 56% Spector - 48% Randall - 30% A. Williams - 82%
Catch rate doesn't necessarily mean all the targets were catchable balls but it does paint a grim picture for our WR group and our passing game overall. With the exception of Antonio Williams, about half the time a ball is thrown to our starting receivers we can expect they aren't going to catch it.
So I'm starting to believe our passing game has become a self licking ice cream cone of "bad". Meaning - both DJ's and the WR groups inconsistencies are feeding into worse and worse performance. In other words - when DJ manages to throw a catchable ball to a receiver they don't catch it or when a receiver is open DJ doesn't get the ball anywhere near them.
One thing is for sure - Dabo and crew have got to fix our passing game if we hope to once again compete at the highest level.
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not surprising
Dec 2, 2022, 4:36 PM
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We have two RBs, two TEs, 1 WR.... that's it.
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Re: not surprising
Dec 2, 2022, 4:46 PM
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Geez, and a rating of 14 in one game? The chart shows what most have been saying .. at least he practices well, by what we’ve been told. Amazing we’re 10-2 with those numbers, and explains the many nail biters.
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Re: not surprising
Dec 3, 2022, 9:28 AM
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If only there was a football formation that incorporated our strengths of two RBs and two TEs….sigh
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I am sure many people here are SHOCKED... SHOCKED I say
Dec 2, 2022, 4:40 PM
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Re: Comparison of CFP top 10 by game by QBR...
Dec 2, 2022, 4:44 PM
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That's a lot of yellow on Clemson's section.
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Re: Comparison of CFP top 10 by game by QBR...
Dec 3, 2022, 2:31 PM
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Looks like the underwear on an aggie!
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Re: Comparison of CFP top 10 by game by QBR...
Dec 3, 2022, 8:48 AM
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Interesting stuff here. Thanks for compiling.
Not much to add for DJ.
As far as catch % goes, I feel like drop % would get to who's at “fault”.
Randall for example has only caught a ball or 2 and most of the stuff thrown his way is 1000% uncatchable.
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Re: Comparison of CFP top 10 by game by QBR...
Dec 3, 2022, 9:00 AM
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It would be nice to know the catch rate for Antonio Williams and the RB's if screens were removed from the equation. Several of the TE's catches are shallow crosses that are easy completions as well.
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Re: Comparison of CFP top 10 by game by QBR...
Dec 3, 2022, 9:11 AM
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DJ isn’t very good. We know that. He has played better this year, especially with added running element to his game.
But, if I’m being honest, our WRs are the worst aspect of the offense. I truly believe that we have the worst WR core in the ACC, if not one of the worst in all of P5.
And the sad part is, I’m not sure it’s any better next year. Beaux, Antonio, and Randall will be the starters. But then it drastically falls off after them. Unless Noble, Hanafin, and Tyler Brown come in ready, we’re going to be awful at WR again next year. The portal is a must. Not using it would be a mistake.
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Re: Comparison of CFP top 10 by game by QBR...
Dec 3, 2022, 2:33 PM
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I want to know who called that piccolo player a QB?
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Re: Comparison of CFP top 10 by game by QBR...
Dec 3, 2022, 2:36 PM
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Interesting comparison info. Thanks for posting.
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maybe when dabo starts him next year
Dec 3, 2022, 3:14 PM
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he might become just average.
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