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CU Guru [1446]
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Clemson and the panthers
Apr 29, 2019, 11:17 PM
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Why has panther ownership had such disdain for Clemson for all these years ? I don’t mean just this or last years draft. They’ve been a franchise since 1995 and not one player. I don’t believe its just coincidence
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Why do you assume that they have disdain for Clemson?
Apr 29, 2019, 11:50 PM
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Do you honestly believe that the Panthers are going out of their way to not draft Clemson players?!?
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Re: Why do you assume that they have disdain for Clemson?
Apr 30, 2019, 12:25 AM
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History certainly has something to say about that !!
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Tiger Titan [50785]
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So because they haven't drafted Clemson players
Apr 30, 2019, 10:30 PM
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it's reasonable to assume that it's because they have some problem with Clemson players and are purposely avoiding them?
Rather than the fact that they've happened to feel that players from other schools better fit their needs?
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Clemson Conqueror [11203]
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CU Medallion [18901]
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blind wont see what's clearly there***
Apr 30, 2019, 9:39 AM
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Re: Why do you assume that they have disdain for Clemson?
Apr 30, 2019, 8:16 AM
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Judge, dude, are you serious? Please update your logic module as it is broken. It is blatantly obvious to the entire planet if that helps. Do a logic module reboot and see if that helps.
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Tiger Titan [50785]
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I realize it might be hard for you to understand
Apr 30, 2019, 10:31 PM
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but the Panthers aren't going out of their way to avoid drafting Clemson players.
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Clemson Conqueror [11405]
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I tend to agree with you, Judge, but how would you explain
May 1, 2019, 2:08 AM
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them drafting that nondescript Usuc OL, instead of Hyatt. No way should that have happened!
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Ultimate Tiger [34824]
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If you go through the Panthers draft history
Apr 30, 2019, 3:05 AM
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and put it against the Clemson players that were available at the time of their picks, there are very few cases where a need by the Panthers matched up to the Clemson guys that were available. The only instance I saw where something matched up was in 2015 when the Panthers drafted LB Shaq Thompson from Washington in Rd 1 Pick 25 when Stephon Anthony was available. The Saints drafted him 6 picks later.
In 2016, the Panthers drafted 3 cornerbacks at pick 62, 77 and 141. During that draft Mackensie Alexander went at #54.
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Re: If you go through the Panthers draft history
Apr 30, 2019, 5:28 PM
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and put it against the Clemson players that were available at the time of their picks, there are very few cases where a need by the Panthers matched up to the Clemson guys that were available. The only instance I saw where something matched up was in 2015 when the Panthers drafted LB Shaq Thompson from Washington in Rd 1 Pick 25 when Stephon Anthony was available. The Saints drafted him 6 picks later.
In 2016, the Panthers drafted 3 cornerbacks at pick 62, 77 and 141. During that draft Mackensie Alexander went at #54.
I was a Panthers fan before I was a Clemson fan. My parents didn't care about football, so I had to self-start my fandom and Carolina was on every Sunday. I can confirm as a guy who has frequently hoped for Carolina to get a Clemson guy that this is almost always the case. I really think they would've picked Ferrell this year, but Oakland REALLY wanted him, so that couldn't happen. And I believe they would've picked Alexander if he'd made it to their 2nd round pick in 2016. The former GM instead took a massive reach on Vernon Butler in the 1st round.
Some other notable drafts with high Clemson picks:
2010-Panthers didn't have a 1st round pick and CJ Spiller goes #9 to Buffalo. Regardless of draft position, they'd just had 2 RBs go for 1100+ yds the season before.
2013-Panthers picked Star Lotulelei at #14 and Hopkins goes to Houston at #27. Carolina had been getting abused in the middle of the defense for years and were desperate for DT help to put in front of Kuechly. WR wasn't even a consideration.
2014-Watkins goes #4 well before Carolina picks at #28.
2017-Panthers pick McCaffrey at #8, 4 picks before Watson goes to Houston. Newton's last injury free season was his MVP 2015 season. Carolina was not remotely in the market for a QB.
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Re: Clemson and the panthers
Apr 30, 2019, 7:04 AM
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Could care less about the Panthers.I'm actually a Cowboy Fan(lifelong since day #1) but having been born in Atlanta, have more interest in what the Falcons do than that team North of here.
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They obviously aren't in to character
Apr 30, 2019, 8:18 AM
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or winning?
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [105932]
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I'm so tired of hearing this bullshyatt. It's the NFL
Apr 30, 2019, 9:13 AM
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Do you really think that an NFL franchise in Charlotte, NC would skip drafting a player from Clemson if they thought that player would help them win? Do you think when Gettleman was in Carolina he hated Clemson players but magically started to draft them in NY? Or do you think Jerry Richardson hated Clemson players and when he sold the team he included a clause in the agreement that David Tepper is not allowed to draft Clemson players?
Yes, I think it's odd that they've never drafted a Clemson player, but as Dabo keeps sending talent to the NFL it will happen. They would've drafted Cle this year if he had fallen that far, which many people expected. They signed Ben Boulware as an undrafted free agent, he just didn't make the team.
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Game Day Hero [4456]
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Agreed.
Apr 30, 2019, 2:45 PM
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It’s a business. They aren’t avoiding Clemson players. If they thought the available Clemson player was better than the same position player they drafted, they’d have drafted the Clemson player. It’s not some freaking conspiracy.
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I blame Scam Newton, even before he got there.
Apr 30, 2019, 9:58 AM
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Makes as much sense as any other reason you can come up with.
Leroy Jethro Gibbs says again, "There are no coincidences. FIND THE ANSWER!"
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Re: Clemson and the panthers
Apr 30, 2019, 2:37 PM
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They're due to draft TLaw in 2022.
Don't believe me? Well look at his life so far. Born in Tennessee, went to school in Georgia, now at college in South Carolina.
Look at the map, he's clearly working his way anti-clockwise, and being drafted to a team in North Carolina is all that's left.
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Re: Clemson and the panthers
Apr 30, 2019, 2:48 PM
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I am stunned that after years of crappy left tackles the panthers would not even try to get Hyatt in camp! I’m sick of it! After looking at the tackle they chose from ole miss I find it hard to believe they didn’t try to sign him as a free agent! They make one disgusting move after another and bank it all every year on a spoiled premadonna 6-5 250 lb. baby who couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with a football! Kinda hard to put to much time in to caring about the panthers!
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Paw Warrior [5074]
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Re: Clemson and the panthers
Apr 30, 2019, 3:19 PM
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It would've been nice for them to draft Hyatt, but it's not as if they were the only team that wasn't high on him considering he went undrafted. Hopefully he proves them all wrong and has a long and successful career.
As far as Newton, I know I'm in the minority here, but I don't have a problem with the guy. People say he's a premadonna on here, but have no problems with Watson posing after plays(which I have zero issue with). He's not an elite QB IMO when compared to guys like Brady, Brees, Rogers, etc... but he's better than several other starting quarterbacks in the league, and far from the biggest problem with the Panthers.
They have consistently surrounded him with garbage talent on offense outside of Mccaffrey. Olson has been good, but he's starting to get old and injury prone. Who is the receiver he's had over the past few years? Kelvin Benjamin who has caught 41 passes over the past 2 years combined since he left? The closest he's had to an elite receiver during his time in the NFL was an aging Steve Smith.
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Clemson Conqueror [11405]
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Cam Newton has never shown the leadership a QB should
May 1, 2019, 2:03 AM
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possess, and "posing" has nothing to do with it. He isn't in the ballpark with Watson, when it comes to leadership!
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Re: Cam Newton has never shown the leadership a QB should
May 1, 2019, 8:35 AM
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His teammates don't share your opinion. But what do they know? They're just on the team practicing and playing games with him. You're a non-NFL fan who formed an opinion on the guy 8 years ago and has likely never met him. You probably know best.
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Re: Clemson and the panthers
Apr 30, 2019, 2:53 PM
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A little late
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Re: Clemson and the panthers
Apr 30, 2019, 5:04 PM
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With a few above mentioned exceptions I never liked them especially the Crybaby QB.
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Re: Clemson and the panthers
Apr 30, 2019, 5:21 PM
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I’m with you. Done with em. I think they should have drafted Hyatt, Bryant, or Renfrow rather than that USuC lineman or other SEC second rate talent. Just can’t figure out if I should hop on the Raiders or Texans wagon now. Adios Scam nooten.
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Game Changer [1813]
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Your paranoia knows no bounds*
Apr 30, 2019, 8:34 PM
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Paranoid
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Standout [237]
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Re: Clemson and the panthers
Apr 30, 2019, 9:49 PM
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A member of the Clemson BOT is Jerry Richardson’s son who I believe played at Clemson . I highly doubt they snub Clemson players. I am a non Panther fan.
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Standout [237]
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Re: Clemson and the panthers
Apr 30, 2019, 9:49 PM
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A member of the Clemson BOT is Jerry Richardson’s son who I believe played at Clemson . I highly doubt they snub Clemson players. I am a non Panther fan.
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I love threads like this for the comedy.
Apr 30, 2019, 10:09 PM
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Every NFL team except the Raiders and Texans hate Clemson.
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Tiger Titan [50785]
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Yes, and not only that...
Apr 30, 2019, 10:35 PM
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but also, when a Clemson players doesn't live up to expectations in the NFL, it is because he was drafted by a bad team and/or a coach that is clueless as to how to best utilize his talents.
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Top TigerNet [31975]
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As a Panther Fan I am frustrated and not Frustrated...
May 1, 2019, 4:08 AM
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I am frustrated because Clemson is the best College Football Program in the South and how to tap into a fanbase than to DRAFT former Clemson players and to kind of help grow the Carolina Panther fanbase(think of The Green Bay, Pittsburgh, and Dallas fans that travel to see their beloved teams)....
But I'm not Frustrated because, as some have pointed out it's a business... Some of the Clemson players may not have been on CRR's/ Marty hurney's draft board(It's been speculated that CF99 Was high on their draft board until OAK/LV drafted him) we didn't need a DT (Have Poe, Butler, K.K, Kendrick Norton on the Roster) at 13. Don't have a "pressing need" for a Strong side D End, especially going to a 3-4 multiple front. Didn't need a corner (have two good ones already wouldn't make any sense to draft TM1.. but not gonna lie it would have been sweet to have him in a Panther Uniform)... Can't draft HR13(Signed Chris Hogan)..
So I'm not switching my allegiance because of Carolina's inability to draft Clemson Players....
But if it'll make anybody feel better... I'll root for all Clemson Players.... When they not playing the Panthers...
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