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Re: Antifa fascist indicted!
Jun 22, 2022, 7:35 PM
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Nope. Quozzel said that only white suprematists can be fascists.
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Actual indictment from violent acts compared to a
Jun 22, 2022, 7:38 PM
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bunch of dudes in the back of a truck in kackies doing nothing plastered all over the main stream news
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You seem to be losing some of your grip on reality.
Jun 22, 2022, 8:35 PM
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Do you really not believe a likely very dangerous situation was avoided with the apprehension of those white nationalists? They explained exactly what they were planning to do, but because law enforcement actually did their job and prevented them from doing it, they’re mere babes in the woods, innocent as can be?
It’s pretty obvious at this point that your “guns don’t kill people, PEOPLE kill people” argument is disingenuous garbage if you don’t want law enforcement to be able to identify and prevent potential criminals from committing crimes, including murder.
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Re: You seem to be losing some of your grip on reality.
Jun 22, 2022, 8:56 PM
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“Some were charged with misdemeanors” lol
Maybe if they had committed more heinous crimes, Kamala would have bailed them out.
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Re: You seem to be losing some of your grip on reality.
Jun 22, 2022, 9:06 PM
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You told us she was going to bail the Wisconsin parade guy out. What happened?
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Billions in damage and many dead from riots
Jun 23, 2022, 6:04 AM
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led by blm and antifa.
How many have been killed by white nationalist and specifically Patriot Front? How much damage have they done? I don't know. Is it small in comparison like 100 million or 10 million?
And to be clear, I despise white nationalist groups and want them prosecuted to the full extent of the law if found guilty of crimes.
I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of the left.
Charged with misdemeanors is big news. Indicted on felonies not news at all, if fact very hard to find much about it. Google both and compare hits.
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Re: Billions in damage and many dead from riots
Jun 23, 2022, 10:56 AM
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There is a strong argument that the KKK has done way more damage in the score of US history than Antifa and people claiming to be affiliated with BLM. They would qualify as white nationalists, correct?
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Re: Actual indictment from violent acts compared to a
Jun 22, 2022, 9:20 PM
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This makes Jan 6th look like a 7 year old's birthday party
Prosecutors say 29 felony counts have been filed against the defendants, including conspiracy to commit a riot, use of tear gas and assault with a deadly weapon
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Re: Antifa fascist indicted!
Jun 22, 2022, 8:52 PM
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Words and definitions seem to confuse you.
Most members of Antifa are in fact Anarcho-Communists.
I don't know why this is so freaking hard. There are two main kinds of political extremist, the right-leaning Fascist Pig...and the left-leaning Commie Rat. Why can your dim simian brain not understand this?
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Re: Antifa fascist indicted!
Jun 22, 2022, 9:15 PM
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...could be because the lefty commie rats are also using strategies employed by fascists pigs.
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Re: Antifa fascist indicted!
Jun 22, 2022, 9:16 PM
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i will wait for jimma's response
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Re: Antifa fascist indicted!
Jun 22, 2022, 10:31 PM
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What you fail to realize with your advanced knowledge and bigly-type words, is that extremes aren’t on the ends of a linear plane. Ideologies are on a circle, in which the extreme right and extreme left are closer to each other than the middle. And as mentioned above, tactics, beliefs, and actions can overlap.
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Re: Antifa fascist indicted!
Jun 23, 2022, 12:54 AM
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...and we actually agree. They actually do. We like to phrase things "right versus left" but the real danger is authoritarianism...which is the polar opposite of democracy, which in its purist form is supposed to be the Will Of We The People.
You can make a real good argument modern-day China is probably more like Nazi Germany than any government since then. They have all the same elements in place: a virulent nationalistic ideology backed by complete State control of the media, a male-dominated (you doubt it, look at what happened to that tennis player who dared speak up that she'd been sexually abused by a Party bigwig, or those two poor chicks who literally got dragged out of a cafe and beaten on the sidewalk in full view of the public just the other day...it was, well, awful to watch.) Oh, and exactly like Nazi Germany, there's a virulent racist component - they're trying to make the entire country ethnically and culturally Han Chinese, and most Chinese wouldn't date members of another race, it's like listening to white people from 1950. And they've got that weird combo of utter state control...combined with oligarch industrialists who basically rule huge megacorps like fiefdoms. (See Schindler's List for the kind of absolute power industrialist owners had in Nazi Germany. They literally bought Jews like cattle right off the death camp trains.)
And Russia didn't go from Communist nation to the Fascist warmongers they are today by progressing all the way around the wheel from left to right...they just went the other way around the wheel, privatized those big public structures like Gazprom and Aeroflot, and became an oligarchy that is even now morphing into a full-on Fascist police state.
That said, Antifa is short for "antifascists". They are the mortal enemies of right-leaning Fascists. When you get to extremists, the thing they seem to hate most...is other extremists. It's worth remembering most of the point of the Nazis' big war was to capture Russia and its vast territory...and exterminate the Slavs, who they perceived as subhuman, and capture living space for the Master Race.
Commies and Nazis are not the same. Like I said...both bad guys, but Fascist Pigs...and Commie Rats.
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They are mostly the same thing. They differ mainly in
Jun 23, 2022, 1:19 AM
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vocabulary. China was as close to the communist ideal as any nation has been. They are today a totalitarian capitalist state. The former is far left, the latter is far right. They moved that distance in almost no time, with no consternation, because they had to take only one step over the line where the two meet.
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Re: They are mostly the same thing. They differ mainly in
Jun 23, 2022, 8:16 AM
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Well, they do differ in ideology. They both play to populism but the way they do it is different.
Left-leaning authoritarian states put an emphasis on the State over the individual. They basically want a classless society where there are no rich, no poor, but everybody's treated exactly the same...from income to ideology. Basically a hive. And they purge anybody who isn't 100% on board with that. Stalin's purges actually made him history's Gold-medal genocide, well ahead of Hitler, actually. Something like 30 million Russians are estimated to have died in Stalin's postwar purges and "Five Year Plans".
Right-leaning states are about elevating singular individuals. The Nazis believed in the Nietzschean philosophy of the uberman (superman), that the strong naturally rise to the top because they are just better than those around them and have the right to whatever they could take, and that it isn't just the right but the duty of the strong to prey upon the unworthy weak. The true ubermen, in this view, are Alpha predators, devoid of pity or weakness or anything but pure hunger, and there is no such thing as right or wrong...in Nietzsche's view those were false concepts invented by the weak slave class to protect themselves against the worthy strong. Basically...it's government by psychopathy. The Nazis threw in some socialist riffs to make the harsh medicine go down easier but they regard the masses as "rabble" - Nietzsche invented the term, things to be controlled and they do it with hyper-nationalism and the vilification of others, by always pointing the rage of the rabble at others...leading the mob around by the nose. You know, like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyIZz4KE8dg
If there's a reason people perceive Trump and MAGA as Fascism, that would be exactly why. That is literally the definition of what Fascism looks like.
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