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Anyone noticed, or am I wrong - our play calling has
Nov 28, 2022, 9:05 AM
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gone downhill since Dabo put his hand in it?
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Re: Anyone noticed, or am I wrong - our play calling has
Nov 28, 2022, 9:07 AM
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Finally someone else sees theelephant in the room! We need a new OC and Dabo needs to let him run it!
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Re: Anyone noticed, or am I wrong - our play calling has
Nov 28, 2022, 9:10 AM
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I wonder if this explains some of Streeter's attitude in post game pressers. He's taking heat for decisions he's not making, and can't call out Dabo in public.
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Re: Anyone noticed, or am I wrong - our play calling has
Nov 28, 2022, 10:21 AM
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that would also mean that in addition to klubnik that johnson, wiles and helms are ALL also worse than ol' 8/29. I ain't buying it.
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I firmly believe...
Nov 28, 2022, 9:11 AM
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the play calling is a product of the limitations at QB.
I'm still scratching my head over that mind-numbing three stooges kick return after the safety. Score on that possession, rather than giving it right back to them, and the game is likely over.
That and the decision to put the game on DJ's shoulders when it was abundantly clear that he couldn't consistently hit the ground with his hat.
The Dirt Peckers ranked 110th nationally in rush defense. Yet the decision was made to throw the ball on 44% of the total plays run, completing only 8 of them (just 3 in the second half).
There was no need to throw it at all, because they clearly couldn't stop the friggin' run, yet we threw it nearly half of the total plays called. THAT is totally incomprehensible !!!
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Re: I firmly believe...
Nov 28, 2022, 9:13 AM
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I think you have a point, the play calling shows that while they publicly say they believe in him, the play calling shows that theydon't trust him to execute.
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Re: I firmly believe...
Nov 28, 2022, 9:13 AM
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Agree. Play calling is limited by our limited QB ability to make quick decisions and execute the plays. We’re dumbed down on offense.
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Re: I firmly believe...
Nov 28, 2022, 9:21 AM
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The fact that Mafah fumbled on the "three stooges" kick-off return has nothing to do whether the trick play was the problem. It would be like criticizing a 20 yard pass completion because the receiver fumbled the ball. That is just silly.
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Re: I firmly believe...
Nov 28, 2022, 10:17 AM
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The play itself was a good play. The timing of calling said is what has most up in arms. No need for that call at point in the game.
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Re: I firmly believe...
Nov 28, 2022, 10:19 AM
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Of calling said play. Sorry,too early on a Monday
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Re: I firmly believe...
Nov 28, 2022, 9:33 AM
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The kick return trick play was a good call. It gained more yardage. It was only the fumble and that wasn't caused by the play. That wasn't like Sammy Watkins throwing play.
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Orange Blooded [4062]
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and....
Nov 28, 2022, 10:04 AM
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severe limitations at WR
...and at times just piss-poor playcalling. Very predictable at times
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It's the same crap plays we ran with Trevor...
Nov 28, 2022, 10:14 AM
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The difference is we had exceptional talent at QB, RB and WR to make this vanilla offense look good.
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Re: I firmly believe...
Nov 28, 2022, 10:23 AM
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I agree with most of your points. I have a couple of things to add to it.
The playcalling is also limited by the receivers as well.
I disagree a little bit about tunjing the ball. In the second half, they were starting to do a better job against the run. Some of those openings from the first half weren't there in the second half.
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Re: Anyone noticed, or am I wrong - our play calling has
Nov 28, 2022, 9:16 AM
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I see this argument a lot, but it doesn't strike me as valid.
If Dabo is intimately involved in offense NOW, which he's all but admitted he is regarding planning and has final sign off on any play (though that's not necessarily calling every play and more like 'I want to go for it on this 4th down, Coach you okay with that?') then we also have to allow that he was likely acting the same in the PAST when we had world beating offensive numbers and performance.
We can't say 'Well, Dabo wasn't involved when we were good but now that we suck it's clearly his influence'. If Dabo 'meddles' in the offense it stands to reason he's been doing it consistently during his tenure here.
And for most of that time? We've been pretty good on offense.
Listen, the last two years we've been a dumpster fire on offense no doubt. But the 'Dabo is meddling with the offense' seem a whole lot less plausible to me than a) poor QB play b) WR fall off or c) stale scheme.
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Re: Anyone noticed, or am I wrong - our play calling has
Nov 28, 2022, 9:21 AM
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I'd suggest it's at least a), b) AND c).
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Re: Anyone noticed, or am I wrong - our play calling has
Nov 28, 2022, 9:28 AM
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I think the problem is that Clemson does not have Watson or Lawrence anymore. The play calling was bad then too.
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^^^^Bingo
Nov 28, 2022, 9:58 AM
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The elite talent masked a very pedestrian scheme and play calling.
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Re: ^^^^Bingo
Nov 28, 2022, 4:23 PM
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Dabo made the difficult decision at the time when he benched K. Bryant for Trevor. He also canned Billy Napier right out of the box when he became head coach.....Oh if we only had Billy as OC now. If the change at OC needs to come, I suspect Dabo will make the change.
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ThT wasn’t a difficult decision at all KB can’t even make
Nov 28, 2022, 4:40 PM
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All the throws. His arm wasn’t strong enough to be a big time qb
We had an outrageously good defense that took us to the playoffs
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Since 2008?***
Nov 28, 2022, 10:04 AM
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Re: Anyone noticed, or am I wrong - our play calling has
Nov 28, 2022, 10:06 AM
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All those runs on first down up the A-gap for no gain............just stupidity. Then the 3 stooges punt return........I think you have your answer.
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Pretty obvious. People have been complaining about it
Nov 28, 2022, 4:39 PM
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Since Jeff Scott was here
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YES!!!!!!!
Nov 28, 2022, 4:41 PM
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That is the major problem!
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Re: Anyone noticed, or am I wrong - our play calling has
Nov 28, 2022, 6:04 PM
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Our offense is pretty dated.
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Re: Anyone noticed, or am I wrong - our play calling has
Nov 28, 2022, 8:27 PM
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Gotten a little stale...or is that just that poor execution has become rampant!
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