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Dynasty Maker [3406]
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Trump's role in the Kerrville flooding disaster...
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Jul 5, 2025, 8:52 PM
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Criticism has been directed at the Trump administration due to significant budget and staff cuts to the National Weather Service (NWS) and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). Trump cut funding to the NWS by 30%, and cut staffing by 20%. These cuts, implemented as part of the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) initiative, reduced NWS staffing by approximately 600 employees, leading to concerns about degraded forecasting capabilities.
Texas officials, including the Texas Division of Emergency Management Chief W. Nim Kidd, noted that the NWS forecast predicted only 3-6 inches of rain, significantly underestimating the actual rainfall, which contributed to the lack of advance warning and evacuation orders.
https://www.kxan.com/investigations/federal-forecast-concerns-surface-in-texas-deadly-flooding-debate/
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Orange Blooded [2568]
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Re: Trump's role in the Kerrville flooding disaster...
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Jul 5, 2025, 8:57 PM
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Seems like a stretch.
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Dynasty Maker [3406]
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Trump defunded weather forecasting...
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Jul 5, 2025, 10:01 PM
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he gutted NWS and NOAA.
Do you know how much the past weather budget costed taxpayers???
$4 per American per year. Trump attacked that.
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Orange Blooded [2568]
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Re: Trump defunded weather forecasting...
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Jul 5, 2025, 10:12 PM
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I didn't support hum gutting it. I am questioning putting some blame on him for this scenario.
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Dynasty Maker [3406]
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Re: Trump defunded weather forecasting...
Jul 5, 2025, 10:21 PM
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I know Trumps reductions did have an impact on that situation. Most of the NWS offices were understaffed before the cuts. The NWS is not collecting the same amount of atmospheric data that they have in the past. This data directly affects forecasting ability.
Tropical's comment on the emergency management communication issue was an even bigger problem.
Its an example of how cuts to state and federal funding have long reaching impacts.
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Orange Blooded [2568]
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Re: Trump defunded weather forecasting...
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Jul 5, 2025, 10:22 PM
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We would have to know more about this exact situation. I can see it being a problem, but hopefully it wasn't in this case.
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Rival Killer [2688]
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Re: Trump defunded weather forecasting...
Jul 5, 2025, 11:00 PM
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Who’s going to investigate?
Somebody in the trump administration or under the thumb of the Trump administration.
Welcome to the third world …… we are here.
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Orange Blooded [2568]
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Re: Trump defunded weather forecasting...
Jul 5, 2025, 11:06 PM
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Maybe people that work in those organizations. There is an article I posted at the end of this thread.
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Paw Master [16633]
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Re: Trump's role in the Kerrville flooding disaster...
Jul 5, 2025, 10:57 PM
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CNN has an excellent online article on the situation.
While the NWS is being significantly downsized and weather research likewise being defunded, something I don’t agree with, it is way premature to say this had a major or even significant role in this tragedy occurring.
We don’t know nearly enough to be casting blame at this point.
I can’t post the link on my phone tonight, but this is a measured and very informative article.
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National Champion [7453]
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Re: Trump's role in the Kerrville flooding disaster...
Jul 6, 2025, 12:03 AM
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If Biden gets blamed for Laken Riley, then Trump gets the blame for all these children. Can't have it both ways. 😆
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Hall of Famer [8416]
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Re: Trump's role in the Kerrville flooding disaster...
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Jul 5, 2025, 9:16 PM
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Bidens open borders killed a lot more Americans than whatever nonsense this is ever will. When will left wing kooks start whining about that? Oh thats right never. Dead Americans are just fine when it comes to electoral politics aren't they?
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Orange Blooded [2568]
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Re: Trump's role in the Kerrville flooding disaster...
Jul 5, 2025, 9:17 PM
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Biden isn't president and he isn't talking about the border anyway. That has nothing to do with the thread.
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Re: Trump's role in the Kerrville flooding disaster...
Jul 5, 2025, 9:29 PM
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2 dozen girls at a Christian summer camp are missing and presumed dead. What is God trying to tell Texas?
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Orange Blooded [2568]
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Re: Trump's role in the Kerrville flooding disaster...
Jul 5, 2025, 9:37 PM
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They are in a better place now.
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Ring of Honor [22758]
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Gov Abbotts role in the Kerrville flooding disaster is shameful.
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Jul 5, 2025, 9:39 PM
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Similar to Uvalde, there’s significant evidence that Texas is governed by incompetent clowns. The Pub excuse machine will be spinning. Mostly this is an inadequate State response but linkage to Federal funding reductions in future hurricane seasons and severe weather events like tornadoes will become evident. Like always, it’s time for Pubs to break out the Ts and Ps.
I have posted numerous links that show the history and weather information was sufficient to “predict and mitigate the consequences” of this event if competent emergency management professionals had been at the wheel. State post incident response has also been insufficient.
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Offensive Star [333]
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Jesus Christ. It happened today.***
Jul 5, 2025, 10:06 PM
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Orange Blooded [2568]
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Re: Jesus Christ. It happened today.***
Jul 5, 2025, 10:13 PM
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And?
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Offensive Star [333]
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Yall are blaming trump and Abbott for the weather*
Jul 5, 2025, 10:23 PM
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And a response that started hours ago. TDS is at an all time high.
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Orange Blooded [2568]
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Re: Yall are blaming trump and Abbott for the weather*
Jul 5, 2025, 10:25 PM
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I am not blaming anyone shytforbrains. Learn to read.
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Dynasty Maker [3406]
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Offensive Star [333]
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Trump's role in the Kerrville flooding disaster. - TD Tigers***
Jul 5, 2025, 10:53 PM
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All-American [564]
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Re: Uvalde was nothing but cowards being cowards
Jul 6, 2025, 5:35 AM
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Kinda does when Texas politicians make some pretty bold statements on being tough on crime then tuck tail and run when the lead starts flying.
Each of those pansy cops should be tried, jailed and fired with lost pensions. Talk tough but when the dookie hit the fan they were just flat out cowards.
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Ring of Honor [22758]
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Politics played a big role in after incident analysis at Uvalde
Jul 6, 2025, 10:01 AM
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IMO those investigation skirted accountability questions regarding Incident Command and roles and responsibilities of State and Federal LE agencies when mobilized to an incident.
The “blame” was placed on the lowest guy on the totem pole which failed to adequately address the actions of other LE agencies that responded.
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Athletic Dir [1133]
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Re: Trump's role in the Kerrville flooding disaster...
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Jul 5, 2025, 10:26 PM
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Who's gonna offer "thoughts and prayers" first? Come on Trumpublicans.....that's always your mantra after an AK47 shooting. Who will be first?
Or is this just "God's will"?
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Always know a clown when you see AK47
Jul 5, 2025, 10:29 PM
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Athletic Dir [1133]
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Re: Always know a clown when you see AK47
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Jul 5, 2025, 11:09 PM
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Just wanted to see which trumplican would get riled up first.
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All-American [564]
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Re: Always know a clown when you see AK47
Jul 6, 2025, 5:53 AM
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My scary black rifles have never once jumped up, ran out the house and indiscriminately started shooting. As a test I inserted a mag, left it on the bed only to come back later to find it right where it was put.
Either mine are well trained or the reason lies elsewhere for why we have these type events.
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Orange Blooded [2568]
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Re: Always know a clown when you see AK47
Jul 6, 2025, 6:23 AM
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Exactly. Guns don't make killing easier. If they didn't use a gun the would use a spoon or a pillow. We'll said.
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All-American [564]
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Re: Always know a clown when you see AK47
Jul 6, 2025, 6:58 AM
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A gun is an inanimate object, nothing more than a tool. It is how one chooses to operate said tool that determines outcomes.
The nutbag with a scary black rifle gets sensationalized but the drive by, shoot’em ups in cities kill far more yearly with nary a peep.
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Orange Blooded [2568]
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Re: Always know a clown when you see AK47
Jul 6, 2025, 7:08 AM
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Exactly. You're a genius. We should get every man woman and child a nuke too. It's the same as tissue paper. As a matter of fact, we shouldn't give our military guns. There are cheaper options such as tissue paper and pillows. As far as all of the deaths with gang violence, its expected. Its more shocking when people drop their kids off at school or people are in church and they are massacred. There's a reason for the disparity in lack of shock and shock between those and gang violence. I am not anti-gun, because its too late. We're a violent gun society. It's too late to do much, other than stricter background checks and waiting periods, if that would even help.
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All-American [564]
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Re: Always know a clown when you see AK47
Jul 6, 2025, 7:31 AM
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Every gun I have purchased since 94 has included a background check , a few had waiting periods. Even at gun shows background checks were done. So what exactly will more checks do to prevent the shootings you deem bad and unexpected? I do take exception as you seem to imply those inner city cretins do not matter and we expect nothing but violence from them so no big deal. Your outrage should include them too.
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All-American [564]
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Re: Always know a clown when you see AK47
Jul 6, 2025, 7:35 AM
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Orange Blooded [2568]
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Re: Always know a clown when you see AK47
Jul 6, 2025, 7:48 AM
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Because every gun purchase in this country doesn't have a background check and there isn't a waiting period. You don't seem like a very intelligent person. As far as people in more violent areas. They do matter, but we expect violence from gangs, drug dealers, and people living certain lifestyles. This is something that might shock you, but people expect more violence at Rikers Island than the do at church or kindergarten. Its shocking. They expect more violence with gun carrying gangs than they do at kindergarten or Walmart.
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All-American [564]
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Re: Always know a clown when you see AK47
Jul 6, 2025, 8:24 AM
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Lester, your default when losing is name calling and projecting your own lack of intelligence on others. Sad to see because you could be and do better.
A small fraction of gun sales are done by private sellers which do not require checks. Interestingly though most guns used in the shooting you deem unexpected and worthy of outrage were in fact purchased through FFL dealers requiring checks.
We have like 5k firearm laws currently on the books, so more is gonna fix it? Sure thing! Criminals and the ill do not care about Laws, only law abiding citizens do that.
I have no answers as to a 100% method to prevent it. Mental health checks? Somebody can be sane day of purchase and months/years later who knows. I would advocate that the use of a gun in commission of a crime be a death penalty upon conviction. May not slow down the insane but common criminals may think twice.
As soon as they change the Laws or get a different ruling on the 2nd I will turn mine in . Good luck with that though, as currently configured the SCOTUS is very unlikely to rend that ruling.
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Orange Blooded [2568]
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Re: Always know a clown when you see AK47
Jul 6, 2025, 8:44 AM
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Believe me I am calling you unintelligent because your posts have been idiotic. Losing was never a thought with posts as idiotic as you are pumping out. Anyway, yes guns make killing easier. As far as some new laws fixing everything, as it was stated earlier that ship has sailed. Gun violence will always be here. There are responsible things thay can be done and maybe they stop a couple of mass shootings r shootings in general over time, but there is no fix. There is more we can do, but nothing will solve the problem. We can be more responsible though. Thats about all we can do.
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Rival Killer [2688]
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Re: Trump's role in the Kerrville flooding disaster...
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Jul 5, 2025, 10:59 PM
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Tom Fahy, the legislative director for the NWS employees’ union, told CNN that while he believes the offices had “adequate staffing and resources,” the Austin-San Antonio office is missing a warning coordination meteorologist — a role that serves as a crucial, direct link between forecasters and emergency managers.
But the good news is ……. Trump was able to provide some billionaires with some really nice tax cuts.
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Offensive Star [333]
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Is like office space?..
Jul 5, 2025, 11:20 PM
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1. So, you tell people that bad weather is coming?
2. No, the coordinator does that.
3. So, you tell the coordinator and they tell emergency management?
4. Well no. The coordinator just forwards our messages.
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Orange Blooded [2568]
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Paw Master [16633]
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Re: Trump's role in the Kerrville flooding disaster...
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Jul 6, 2025, 8:14 AM
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Thanks for putting up the link. This is the article I referred to.
The facts are Trump is cutting back on the NWS, there was an incredibly unusual flash flood and people died.
Warnings and alerts were issued. Many of them. Perhaps the early retirement of the person tasked with coordinating the dissemination of this information led to some of the deaths, but we do not know that.
In 1987, 10 deaths occurred during another flash flood on the Guadeloupe River. Trump and DOGE or Reagan were not responsible then,I suspect.
The point is, we do not have the facts to assign the blame of this tragedy on Trump, DOGE, state and local officials, the camp director or camp staffers. Was there warning fatigue?
Instead of jumping to conclusions and immediately bringing politics into the mix, it would be reasonable to wait as the facts will come in.
At this point, no one knows if Trump has any role in this tragedy. He may, but no one knows. To reflexively assign blame to anyone at this point is not responsible just as cutting the NWS wasn’t, but it’s too early to try to connect the dots.
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