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A reality check for Clemson Football
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Today, our overly-passionate fan base has shown it's usual divisions. While a vocal minority continues to don the orange-colored glasses, a growing majority on TNET is coming to a stark realization: our beloved Clemson football program is at a crossroads.
Last night's game was not just an isolated event but indicative of deeper issues that some of us have been observing and voicing. Does acknowledging this reality make us any less loyal to Clemson? Far from it. It's perhaps because we're deeply invested in its success that we can't ignore the red flags.
For two years, concerns about our RB recruits went unheeded by the pumpers. And while a 10-win season and an ACC championship are commendable achievements, they don't necessarily guarantee a promising future. The concerns many of us shared about the management of our DE, WR, LB, and RB rosters and the apparent lapses in WR and OL development and recruiting weren't pulled out of thin air. They were based on observations, stats, and patterns.
Yet, whenever these concerns were voiced, a certain segment of TNET dismissed them (you know who you are). To those who felt silenced or ridiculed for expressing genuine concerns—what you experienced was a classic case of gaslighting, a tactic to undermine someone's perspective, making them doubt their own observations.
It's time for an observation in reality. It's time to set aside the "sunshine pumping" and face the facts. By acknowledging the challenges head-on, we stand a better chance of navigating them and supporting our team.
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Orange Blooded [4821]
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Were just fanswe have no power to sway or make decisions
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Sep 5, 2023, 10:18 PM
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I realize that, so I’m just here to vent and hear other opinions.
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A++***
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Re: A reality check for Clemson Football
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Sep 5, 2023, 10:18 PM
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Well said!!!
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Legend [19159]
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Thank you!***
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Sep 5, 2023, 10:27 PM
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Re: A reality check for Clemson Football
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Sep 5, 2023, 10:19 PM
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Is this an Alcoholic Recovery program?
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Legend [19159]
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Yes. Would you like to join?***
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Sep 5, 2023, 10:20 PM
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All-In [25518]
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LOL.......
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Sep 6, 2023, 3:39 AM
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After Monday's game there might be a whole lot of people who might need to join.
Either that or they're too far gone for help!
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Re: A reality check for Clemson Football
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Sep 5, 2023, 10:29 PM
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I think we all sobered up pretty quickly by the third quarter..
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Legend [19159]
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sure that.***
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Sep 5, 2023, 10:31 PM
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Re: A reality check for Clemson Football
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Sep 5, 2023, 10:40 PM
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Thanks!***
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Re: A reality check for Clemson Football
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Sep 5, 2023, 11:15 PM
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Re: A reality check for Clemson Football
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Sep 5, 2023, 11:26 PM
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I wholeheartedly think you voice the majority of Clemson fans. I've spoken to a small segment of Clemson fans that share your exact thoughts.
For perspective, 99% of them do Not have a T-Net account. Maybe have read an article from T-Net if it pops up on Google, but have no clue about the comments/forum. Therefore, this small but vocal minority is a very small and limited group of Clemson supporters.
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Legend [19159]
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Being a Clemson grad, myself. I have heard the same from
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my Clemson friends who are not on TNET.
This small bunch of posters are increasing losing their credibility I might add.
I've always called it like I see it, good or bad. I may not be right but I am not going to "take a side" either.
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Re: A reality check for Clemson Football
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Sep 6, 2023, 12:47 AM
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Debating the State of Our Beloved Clemson Football Program: Crossroads Ahead
Clemson Football information https://www.hsfootballnews.com/
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Re: A reality check for Clemson Football
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Sep 6, 2023, 3:48 AM
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I agree. But what happened? Was the loss of Jeff Scott greater than we thought?
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That's the huge debate. It's more than one thing.***
Sep 6, 2023, 6:40 AM
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My junior year at Clemson included serving as
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Sep 6, 2023, 3:50 AM
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the Editor-in-Chief of "The Tiger."
In those days in the late 60's we never hesitated to take on any or all, meaning no one nor anything was beyond scrutiny. LBB was a sports columnist for the paper my freshman year, a job that required his observations, pro or con. That's one reason why Bill remains a Devil's Advocate even today.
My basic attitude is that our program is bigger than any one person, and we can thank Dabo for that. However, even he is subject to reality checks. Most of our great friends here on TNet are still huge Dabo supporters. The same folks want our success to continue and know Dabo has to lead the way. Hence, most of the comments are more like pleas than condemnations...something I suspect Dabo would understand.
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TRUEDAT.
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Sep 6, 2023, 4:51 AM
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Dabo sees the problems more than any or all of us.
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Oculus Spirit [94534]
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You talk as if we have any influence over the direction...
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Sep 6, 2023, 4:49 AM
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of our program or the outcome.
This persecution complex you have is beneath you. We're all equals here, none better than another. Just fans discussing our opinions with little, if any, influence on any of the decisions our coaches, AD or any Clemson officer makes.
You are welcome to doom and gloom your way through another season if that's what makes you happy but not being happy is no way to be happy.
I usually stay off the football bored during games and for at least a day or two after a loss. Emotions are high and I feel the pain as much as anyone. Lashing out isn't how I get relief from the pain of a loss.
I don't feel I need to punish anyone to relieve my discomfort from a loss. I don't look for someone to blame because I understand the emotions of losing a game and know that all I'm going to do if I lash out and point an accusatory finger at someone I'm just making a fool of myself.
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Thank you, OP has an inflated view of himself.
Sep 6, 2023, 6:34 AM
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His thought process or opinions aren’t as novel as he would like to think.
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Legend [19159]
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Dude, you're one pumpers who is the MOST annoying
Sep 6, 2023, 6:53 AM
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Who go around posting your attack garbage all over TNET because you don't agree with people.
At least Dead Marion are somewhat hospitable or even downright humorous at times. They might be pumpers but they go about it the right way.
So don't link yourself with the above poster. He's seems to be an ok guy and what he said wasn't an attack but just an opinion.
You, on the other hand, seem to be a one miserable chap.
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Legend [19159]
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I think you miss the point.
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I am not saying anyone is above anyone.
I am very happy, thank you. I have a place on the beach and can go out on my patio watch the sunset every night. I mean, I love Clemson anything but I do have a life outside of TNET though at times it seems that I don't...hahaha.
Doom and gloom? I am just calling it like I see it. You call it anyway you want to, even though I live on the beach, prefer to live life with my head not in the sand.
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My criticism of anything to do with Clemson football
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in no way changes my love and support/fandom of all things Clemson. I love the football team, the basketball teams, the baseball team, the softball team, the soccer teams, the volleyball team, the track and field teams, all of the others too.
TNET is a place to engage others in conversations about whatever floats your fancy. Some silly, some sad, some uplifting, some educational, some dumb, but all are here to express themselves in an open forum.
Monday night was bad, but there is another game coming up that we can all cheer this team to victory. Go Tigers!!
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agreed....this program is at a crossroads
Sep 6, 2023, 10:22 AM
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the team that played on Monday was woefully unprepared. either players were severely out of position or the calls were wrong. poor conditioning, arm tackling etc. offensively we would call 5 good plays then 2 dumb ones that set us back tremendously. no one could hold onto the ball, the receivers were uninspired and wearing oven mittens. this ALL goes back to coaching ......can we overcome...don;t know, doesn;t sound like the coaches thought we lost. tired of all the rah rah stuff
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