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TNET: Brian Kelly reacts to Swinney game grades: "He might not have wanted to see the 2nd half"
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The truth hurts. Other teams make adjustments, we do the definition of insanity.
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Re: The truth hurts. Other teams make adjustments, we do the definition of insanity.
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Our offense did zilch ..whatever grade he gave us was on D and Special Teams. He should have taken away points because of the offense. No excuse for the lack of scheme, playing calling and coaching.
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Re: The truth hurts. Other teams make adjustments, we do the definition of insanity.
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Sep 2, 2025, 7:39 PM
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G Riley is in the last year of his contract, correct?
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Re: The truth hurts. Other teams make adjustments, we do the definition of insanity.
Sep 2, 2025, 9:18 PM
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I really hope it is the last year of his contract. It should be, and I’d say we’re due a reimbursement for the other years.
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Re: The truth hurts. Other teams make adjustments, we do the definition of insanity.
Sep 3, 2025, 2:07 PM
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And, while I agree with your post, we still came pretty close to winning anyway. I was very disappointed with how we played, but maybe we are closer to turning a corner than it seemed. That’s assuming LSU really is good. That’s a big reach considering the bias shown to the sec by their darlings in the media.
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Re: The truth hurts. Other teams make adjustments, we do the definition of insanity.
Sep 4, 2025, 7:35 AM
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Idk, i agree that Garrett hasn't exactly shown total promise in his air raid type offense, however I disagree that he didnt call plays that gave us a chance to win. Lack of execution on offense by the players caused this loss. There were multiple times Cade had open receivers and just didnt see them or on some plays, just threw the ball into the ground five yards behind. He also looked flustered and tried to escape the pocket when he didnt have to. That being said, the abandonment of the run really cost us. LSU knew we were throwing and pinned their ears back. We can't become one dimensional.
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Re: The truth hurts. Other teams make adjustments, we do the definition of insanity.
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Sep 2, 2025, 4:16 PM
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The truth is the score was 17-10 and it came down to the last play. Not exactly a "truth hurts" game. Did we make the adjustments? not enough to change the outcome.
the PI was at a critical time and no way that was a PI, in any sane person's mind. The PI does not happen the touchdown controversy does not happen so it's not like they even out... that aside we still should have done a whole lot better.
Game 1.
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Was this the Hampton PI? that was a PI no question....
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Sep 2, 2025, 4:32 PM
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not sure how it could be argued otherwise?
If we are be straight up, our DBs have battled the jersey tug issue for years...its clear Reed coaches them to do this as a technique/fundamental of the position and hope they don't call it continuously.
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Please go read a rule book. It was NOT a TD
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Sep 2, 2025, 6:50 PM
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Always such a pleasant guy you are, Charmin.
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Should have been. If you had an objectivity at all you'd see that.
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But if you're a pumper, by nature, objectivity isn't your thang.
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Re: Please go read a rule book. It was NOT a TD
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Sep 3, 2025, 12:40 AM
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From the NCAA handbook
Section 4 Catch, Recovery, Possession
b.If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent) he must maintain complete and continuous control of the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground, whether in the field of play or in the end zone. This is also required for a player attempting to make a catch at the sideline and going to the ground out of bounds.
If he loses control of the ball which then touches the ground before he regains control, it is not a catch. If he regains control inbounds prior to the ball touching the ground it is a catch
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Re: The TRUTH is it was 24-10. Get real***
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Sep 2, 2025, 6:06 PM
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Y’all please stop with that. I luvs ya, but that was a textbook incomplete pass. Correctly overturned.
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Re: The TRUTH is it was 24-10. Get real***
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Are you speaking of the player falling out of bounds in the end zone? Fundament statement of Football “Possesion of a a live ball in the opponents end zone is always a touchdown” whatever happens after that doesn’t matter. They ruled it that way later when receiver landed on his backside and hit the ground worth his arm and lost the ball.
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Re: The TRUTH is it was 24-10. Get real***
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This is incorrect. He was ruled as still being in the act of the catch and you have to control the ball as you go to the ground. If you catch a diving catch in the end zone. Then go to the ground and bobble it. It is not a touchdown because you got 2 feet in bounds. Same justification of the overturned catch.
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Re: The TRUTH is it was 24-10. Get real***
Sep 3, 2025, 1:26 PM
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Are you speaking of the player falling out of bounds in the end zone? Fundament statement of Football “Possesion of a a live ball in the opponents end zone is always a touchdown” whatever happens after that doesn’t matter. They ruled it that way later when receiver landed on his backside and hit the ground worth his arm and lost the ball.
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You might want to check the official final score.
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Yes, many feel that the refs blew the call by ruling it incomplete, but it was the correct call according to the rule book for requirements of a TD catch. Maybe the rule needs to be changed, but it was an incomplete pass and LSU only scored 17 points in the game.
IMHO, Clemson should have been able to score more than 17 or even 24.
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One game bro.
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Sep 2, 2025, 6:43 PM
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We did the definition of insanity. Whether we continue with the definition of insanity is yet to be seen.
It was Cades worst game since his sophomore year. It was Riley’s worst called game of his career.
It hasn’t been a constant theme, so we’ll see. Currently it’s past tense
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Re: The truth hurts. Other teams make adjustments, we do the definition of insanity.
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Sep 2, 2025, 8:10 PM
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Lets all be clear here, Cade did not have a bad game, his OL did not protect him in any way shape or form whatsoever, nor did they create a hole to run thru for the backs, Cade ran for his fu$#ing life all nite long.. He didn't even have time to make a 1st read let alone a 2nd on a pass. Until the OL gets their little boy ar$es straight and grow some man gonads it will be the same ole same ole.
They cant compete outside of the ACC.. A true and proven fact!!
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I wish Tyler from Spartanburg could call into Dabos radio show.
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But alas, they don’t allow callers anymore.
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Re: TNET: Brian Kelly reacts to Swinney game grades: "He might not have wanted to see the 2nd half"
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Sep 2, 2025, 2:48 PM
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I want a rematch in the post season!
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I dont think we will face LSU again this year.
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They aren’t likely to be in a mid-tier bowl.
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Re: I dont think we will face LSU again this year.
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Sep 2, 2025, 5:35 PM
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Go back in your baskethole
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McNeese St, Oakland, More head.
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Dabo had more accomplishments in his first 5 years than Brownell has in his career.
Does any of this cross your mind before you put on the POS schtick?
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Re: TNET: Brian Kelly reacts to Swinney game grades: "He might not have wanted to see the 2nd half"
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Sep 2, 2025, 2:49 PM
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Okay. Enough of the jawing back n worth. LSU won. Let’s move on.
GO TIGERS!!!!
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Re: TNET: Brian Kelly reacts to Swinney game grades: "He might not have wanted to see the 2nd half"
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He knew we could only last a half against the SEC. Crumbled just like UGA and the Coots last year. Sorry if the truth hurts.
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Re: TNET: Brian Kelly reacts to Swinney game grades: "He might not have wanted to see the 2nd half"
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Sep 2, 2025, 3:38 PM
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I don't know if you actually watched that Georgia game or not, but what happened Saturday was not anywhere near the equivalent to that.
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Where are the people saying Cade played ok ?
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Sep 2, 2025, 6:57 PM
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You sure about that?
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Re: TNET: Brian Kelly reacts to Swinney game grades: "He might not have wanted to see the 2nd half"
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I’m not sure why Dabo continues to fall into these kinds of statements. Not a good response in my opinion. Just like Ohio State a few years ago. When it comes to your opponents, always stay positive.
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Re: TNET: Brian Kelly reacts to Swinney game grades: "He might not have wanted to see the 2nd half"
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Yeah I see what youre saying.
I listened to him last night and he said was complimentary of both defenses and said by the end of the year both offenses will have scored a bunch of points. So I kinda took it as their offense didnt play up to the level even Dabo thinks they are capable of. I dont think it was a kock on LSU
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Wooow. *Dabo embarrassed me a couple times.
Sep 2, 2025, 7:04 PM
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Unreal
He’s a man. Not infallible, but it hasn’t been any major issue at all. You mentioned two occasions yet act like he embarrassed you so many times.
Maybe a little perspective over 18 years is a more appropriate way to examine the pros and cons?
How many times have you been “embarrassed” exactly? Poor guy.
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basically a 21-0 second half
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Re: basically a 21-0 second half
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Sep 2, 2025, 3:39 PM
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If you just ignore the rules of football
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Re: basically a 21-0 second half
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Sep 2, 2025, 4:22 PM
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Not really. It was 14-0 by definition, and they had something most think was a TD taken back by refs. Basically 21-0 is totally fair.
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Haha, that is so stupid. You can't just give or take away points as
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Sep 2, 2025, 5:03 PM
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you deem necessary to make your point. Make your argument how you must, but the scoreboard says what the scoreboard says.
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Re: Haha, that is so stupid. You can't just give or take away points as
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They beat us just about every statistic too.
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Facts. Not facts: they outscored us 21-0 in 2nd half.***
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If you're going to hang your hat on the score without taking anything else...
Sep 2, 2025, 6:40 PM
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..into consideration, fine, you do you.
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My comments on this thread segment have nothing to do with my thoughts
Sep 2, 2025, 8:28 PM
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on Clemson or the game. It’s solely about the idiocy of adding an extra 7 points into a summation if the game of a score that didn’t happen.
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Rules. Please learn them.
Sep 2, 2025, 7:07 PM
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That’s unless you want to keep embarrassing yourself with dumb posts. No sweat off my back.
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Re: basically a 21-0 second half
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The plane of the goal line does not have a magical ability to make an incomplete pass complete. I know this has been been beaten to death, but I am surprised how many people refuse to accept the rule.
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Re: TNET: Brian Kelly reacts to Swinney game grades: "He might not have wanted to see the 2nd half"
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They did dominate us in the 2nd half.
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Re: TNET: Brian Kelly reacts to Swinney game grades: "He might not have wanted to see the 2nd half"
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Situations and comments like this are one reason Dabo is often looked down upon by the national media. There was absolutely no reason for him to make a comment like that. I don't like Brian Kelly but his response was perfect.
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Re: TNET: Brian Kelly reacts to Swinney game grades: "He might not have wanted to see the 2nd half"
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Sep 2, 2025, 2:58 PM
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Dabo’s always rainbows and roses no mater what…the tape tells the truth …
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Re: TNET: Brian Kelly reacts to Swinney game grades: "He might not have wanted to see the 2nd half"
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Sep 2, 2025, 3:17 PM
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I guess he thinks everyone either watched a different game or did so, blind.
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Re: TNET: Brian Kelly reacts to Swinney game grades: "He might not have wanted to see the 2nd half"
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Dabo has made Clemson a joke.
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Re: TNET: Brian Kelly reacts to Swinney game grades: "He might not have wanted to see the 2nd half"
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No, the joke was Clemson before Dabo.
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FishFace is a low IQ coot.***
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Re: TNET: Brian Kelly reacts to Swinney game grades: "He might not have wanted to see the 2nd half"
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Guess he could have said " his teacher skills are as bad as his coaching skills"
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i never saw Nussmeier get pushed around much at all. But I saw Cade running
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backwards and flailing out passes off his backfoot pretty much the whole game.
We have a really hard time of being fluid offensively. Because we have no running game threat, other than Cade getting yards on a busted play, it will be a reoccurring theme against teams with sound defenses.
I'll tell you this.... GT is looking to get their statement win in the conference in two weeks. We want to act like our circled games are few but GT is under the radar and licking their chops. You want to see meltdown mode on Tigernet just wait till that game goes down and we put up the same inefficient game plan. They don't have the defensive backfield that LSU has so there will be more opportunities to get more points throwing the ball but if we still run the ball ineptly then it will be a nail biter or worse.
On bright side I thought Clemson was better at tackling. Not many squeezed out of easy tackles like last year. But we still overpursue and we still don't counter the opposing teams game plan. We fell for the misdirection every time. No one was back side in case they cut back (which was pretty much all they did all game.) It was like watching the WVU game again with the jet sweep.. They just kept doing it until we could adjust. I mean you could see it happening but nothing changed. Frustrating to watch.
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Re: TNET: Brian Kelly reacts to Swinney game grades: "He might not have wanted to see the 2nd half"
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Is there a more dislikeable guy in college football than Brian Kelly? The guy has never won a meaningful postseason game in his life and everywhere he's been as a head coach gets better after he leaves. Do any LSU fans actually like the guy because Notre Dame people hated him.
But also, what are you doing Dabo? A 65 grade for LSU and a 58 second half grade for Clemson? They outgained us by like 50 yards in the second half and held us scoreless. Why does he continue to fall in to trap questions like this?
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Re: TNET: Brian Kelly reacts to Swinney game grades: "He might not have wanted to see the 2nd half"
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Clemson kept Clemson off the scoreboard, plenty of opportunities for Clemson.
Would be awesome to get them again in the playoff....
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Re: TNET: Brian Kelly reacts to Swinney game grades: "He might not have wanted to see the 2nd half"
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Sep 2, 2025, 4:12 PM
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If you don’t won’t him to say then beat him, it’s simple. LSU outcoached the CU offensive staff, end of story. I can’t fathom the fact that CU literally had an entire offseason to scheme and prepare, came out in that environment and peed their pants the way they did. Completely baffling. With a senior QB at that.
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Re: TNET: Brian Kelly reacts to Swinney game grades: "He might not have wanted to see the 2nd half"
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Sep 2, 2025, 4:25 PM
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Dabo Swinney has a god complex and needs to come down to earth and keep his mouth shut.
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Orange Elite [5598]
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Starting to believe this. His ego with the transfer portal was bad enough***
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Sep 2, 2025, 7:09 PM
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Gridiron Giant [15608]
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You folks imagine some crazy things.
Sep 2, 2025, 7:19 PM
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Please don’t come back when we have success, which we will.
Dabo has recruited the portal for 4 years. Didn’t sign anyone until this year. Thing is, we have very little spots every year because we have the best retention in the country. Most every other team hemorrhages guys in the offseason and have to use the portal. We do not.
Just because we don’t lose 20 guys every year and fill a roster with portal guys, it doesn’t mean we’re doing it wrong. It has nothing to do with ego.
Please listen to others when they talk about Dabo. He’s a genuine down to earth person who is the same humble person to everyone who meets him. Those that get to know him long term continue with that appraisal
Some of you just have bizarre thought patterns and simply try too hard to find negative angles.
We lost a football game. Let’s leave the baseless judgment of the best coach in our history to ourselves until there’s something actually tangible to gripe about. Your forced take isn’t one of them.
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Re: Idiots are gonna idiot***
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Sep 2, 2025, 8:20 PM
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Cultists are gonna cult
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Re: TNET: Brian Kelly reacts to Swinney game grades: "He might not have wanted to see the 2nd half"
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Sep 2, 2025, 5:11 PM
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They won fair and square but pretty #### comment from a guy down 2-0 in National titles to Dabo.
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Orange Beast [6559]
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I often wonder what our coaches do at halftime
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Sep 2, 2025, 5:22 PM
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NEVER do they seem to make any positive adjustments… if anything, they put the brakes on and play not to lose.
Sounds like Dabo was doing hallucinogenics at halftime if he REALLY thinks that there were any good things going on for his team in the 2nd half.
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Brian Kelly is petty and just wanted to gloat
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Sep 2, 2025, 5:26 PM
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he's at the right school.
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Re: TNET: Brian Kelly reacts to Swinney game grades: "He might not have wanted to see the 2nd half"
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Sep 2, 2025, 5:52 PM
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Brian Kelly is a nasty, miserable person. I wish we had demolished them but doubt it would have made any impact on him. His awfulness is innate.
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Re: TNET: Brian Kelly reacts to Swinney game grades: "He might not have wanted to see the 2nd half"
Sep 2, 2025, 6:37 PM
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BK has never been known for his grace or magnanimity.
This is a little cringe, though.
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Re: TNET: Brian Kelly reacts to Swinney game grades: "He might not have wanted to see the 2nd half"
Sep 2, 2025, 6:52 PM
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More reasons not to like Brian Kelly. We could have and should have kicked his team's ####. LSU DBs could have and should have been called for PI several times. Hard to believe an LSU team that plays such tight/dirty coverage had ZERO PI calls. Rewatch the tape.
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Re: TNET: Brian Kelly reacts to Swinney game grades: "He might not have wanted to see the 2nd half"
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Sep 2, 2025, 6:57 PM
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That guy has been a jerk all of his professional career. I will be pulling against them all year.
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Why is this so hard to understand?????
Sep 3, 2025, 12:24 AM
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A pass play is not completed if the ball touches the ground and moves. If the guy was standing in the middle of the endzone and just fell over and the ball hit the ground and moved, it would be an incomplete pass. Props to the receiver getting to it and making the catch but he did not complete the catch. Did we get lucky-yes! Did the refs make the wrong call-No! I saw it the first replay-he was sliding and rolling and the ball moved-not a bunch but enough. I'll grant you it felt like we deserved to be scored on but the fact is that it was not a complete catch. ...and that was a SEC crew
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Re: Why is this so hard to understand?????
Sep 3, 2025, 9:13 AM
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i think we all know it was a catch. if it were the touchdown for us we'd all be screaming it was a catch. he caught it and made a football move. it was about as #### as this call in years past:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63VVS-Iqmmk
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Well maybe we can take all his arrogance and meet
Sep 2, 2025, 9:56 PM
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Them again in the playoff. Just like we did ND that year they beat us by 3 I believe and spanked them in the ACC Championship. I’d love if we get the chance and take him to the woodshed then.
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Re: TNET: Brian Kelly reacts to Swinney game grades: "He might not have wanted to see the 2nd half"
Sep 2, 2025, 10:36 PM
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I wouldn’t say we were “dominated”. We contributed to those drives as well with dumb penalties.
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Re: TNET: Brian Kelly reacts to Swinney game grades: "He might not have wanted to see the 2nd half"
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Sep 2, 2025, 11:20 PM
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Punked. By Brian Kelly…
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Re: TNET: Brian Kelly reacts to Swinney game grades: "He might not have wanted to see the 2nd half"
Sep 3, 2025, 7:14 AM
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maybe we will see you down the road again mr kelly.
you have a team of hired guns some of the best money can buy and thats sad the only folks to
play for you have to be paid.
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And that's putting it as nicely as he could.***
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