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Tiger Titan [50654]
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If Tommy Bowden were coaching our 2024 football team
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Mar 4, 2025, 11:30 AM
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would we have lost to the Coots?
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Yes.***
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Mar 4, 2025, 11:31 AM
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Math checks out***
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Mar 4, 2025, 11:32 AM
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Thanks for checking behind me.***
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Mar 4, 2025, 11:35 AM
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Re: If Tommy Bowden were coaching our 2024 football team
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Mar 4, 2025, 11:34 AM
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If Cliff Ellis were coaching our basketball team, would we have lost to the coots?
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [100882]
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Forget Ellis, imagine what Shyatt could have done if he had been given
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a 16 year plan and all of these facility upgrades.
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Mocking. Trolling. He's a scab that won't heal on this site.***
Mar 5, 2025, 4:01 PM
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Orange Blooded [2303]
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Re: If Tommy Bowden were coaching our 2024 football team
Mar 4, 2025, 11:45 AM
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We’d beat the coots, but lose to VT
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Pointless speculation***
Mar 4, 2025, 11:50 AM
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Oculus Spirit [44289]
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Re: If Tommy Bowden were coaching our 2024 football team
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Mar 4, 2025, 11:57 AM
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Only team he could consistently beat…😂😂. He wouldn’t have after Spurrier built them into a solid program for 4-5 years.
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"I love that song (2001 A Space Odyssey).....
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Mar 4, 2025, 12:17 PM
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Every time I hear it, I win". - Tommy Bowden.
No matter what you may think of Coach Bowden, you have to give the man credit for that classic zinger!
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If Tommy Bowden was still coaching our football team...
Mar 4, 2025, 12:13 PM
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we'd be mired in inconsistency and mediocrity (i.e., no conference championships, CFP appearances, and certainly no national championships).
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Tiger Titan [50654]
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That wasn't the question, but thanks for weighing in.***
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Mar 4, 2025, 12:31 PM
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The point is...
Mar 4, 2025, 3:09 PM
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Bowden was hired as Clemson's head coach in 1999. He was entirely too inconsistent, prideful, and stubborn to survive at Clemson 26 years. He was lucky he lasted 10 years. For many, that was 5 years too long.
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Tiger Titan [50654]
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I dont disagree.***
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Mar 4, 2025, 3:11 PM
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Re: If Tommy Bowden were coaching our 2024 football team
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Mar 4, 2025, 12:15 PM
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Don't know about the Coots but bet we would have lost at WF.
Too soon??
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Tiger Spirit [9208]
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Re: If Tommy Bowden were coaching our 2024 football team
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Mar 4, 2025, 12:19 PM
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Only if someone other than Lou Holtz was coaching them.
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Re: If Tommy Bowden were coaching our 2024 football team
Mar 4, 2025, 12:20 PM
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Can someone who speaks "judge keller" explain the question to me?
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Got ya covered.
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Mar 4, 2025, 12:28 PM
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See JK loves to post derogatory posts about Dabo. Then he/she gets all offended like when anyone posts anything that could be remotely construed as negative toward BB. Today raider12® posted asking the question, "If Cliff Ellis were coaching this year's basketball team, would we have lost to the coots? The rest is a chain reaction.
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Tiger Titan [50654]
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I am not at all offended by raider12's post asking about Cliff Ellis
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Mar 4, 2025, 12:32 PM
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and the Coots.
This is fun, at least it is supposed to be.
Some of you take this way too seriously.
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Re: Got ya covered.
Mar 4, 2025, 2:59 PM
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But why would someone post something derogatory about a multiple natty winning HC like Dabo? I mean if you are a Clemson fan you wouldn't.
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Multiple choice answers:
Mar 4, 2025, 3:35 PM
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a. He/she thinks it is "fun".
b. He/she likes stirring up controversy.
c. He/she is delusional.
d. He/she is in fact not a Clemson fan.
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Tiger Titan [50654]
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LOL so it is okay to post derogatory comments about some Clemson coaches
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Mar 4, 2025, 3:36 PM
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just not Dabo?
TNet Mange Bored summed up in one post, boys and girls!
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Re: LOL so it is okay to post derogatory comments about some Clemson coaches
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Mar 4, 2025, 5:00 PM
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Thanks for making your intention of this thread apparent for everyone. It was to trap and then whine about it. Just like your threads last week.
Trolling is against forum rules
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Re: Got ya covered.
Mar 4, 2025, 6:23 PM
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I posted that question.
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Your troll game is weak.***
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Re: If Tommy Bowden were coaching our 2024 football team
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Mar 4, 2025, 12:30 PM
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Yep and the future would have looked weak. Luckily we have Dabo. What he has done for football and basketball is one of the most amazing things in sports history. They will be talking what Dabo did for football and basketball for decades. It will be nice for Brad's great great grandchildren to learn about Dabo's role in both football in hoops.
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Tiger Titan [50654]
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Dabo is going to do even bigger things by learning from Brownell.
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Mar 4, 2025, 12:33 PM
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For example, how to use the transfer portal, how to use NIL in recruiting, etc.
With Brad's help, I am confident that Dabo can make us an elite football program.
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To you making stupid comments is fun?
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Mar 4, 2025, 12:38 PM
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Dabo did make us an elite program. He did so without BB's help. That comment is beyond ludicrous.
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Tiger Titan [50654]
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Dabo also allowed us to decline from our perch atop college football.
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Mar 4, 2025, 2:05 PM
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While our accomplishments under Dabo are nothing short of extraordinary, the bottom line is that Dabo has not had nearly the same level of success in this current era of college football.
Brad has, and Dabo can learn a lot from him. It seems that he already has.
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You love the term "current era" because it fits your goofy narrative.
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Mar 4, 2025, 3:33 PM
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Second, you have no clue as to the interaction between Dabo and BB except what you see on TV and speculate.
But keep singing your BB is superior to Dabo song. It makes you happy. Just spare the rest of of us the bulk of your lyrical nonsense.
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Tiger Titan [50654]
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I use the term current era because the new portal rules and NIL changed things.
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Mar 4, 2025, 3:46 PM
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Some coaches adapted better than others. A select few didn’t seem to adapt at all.
Unfortunately, Dabo falls in the latter category.
Not surprisingly, we saw our program decline from being top 2 for several years in a row to not even top 10 the last few years.
I don’t think this current era is solely to blame. Dabo also messed up by hiring unproven coaches for multiple key positions in a row.
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Re: I use the term current era because the new portal rules and NIL changed things.
Mar 4, 2025, 6:44 PM
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Dabo also hired some unknowns at OC. Elliott and Scott both had no OC experience. That worked out pretty well. Dabo tried the same thing and it didn't work out. But he made corrections. Every one makes mistakes. Dabo, Brownell, Noonan, Poppie, Bakich and every other coach at Clemson. Why try to divide the fan base? Are we not fans of Clemson first in all sports? I like Dabo, I like Brownell, I like Noonan, etc. I don't understand the need to put one down to support the other.
If Brownell doesn't get us back to the Elite 8 is this year, in your view, a disappointment and Clemson basketball irrelevant? It isn't to me. Brad has had a solid few years lately. I love it. I would like to see a first ACCT championship under Brownell this year. Won't be too disappointed if we play well and lose.
If you are truly a Clemson fan, then support the coaches until they don't warrant your support. Most of our athetic programs are doing well, and the coaches deserve credit for that.
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All-In [11030]
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So let's take your "current era" term, purely made up though it may be.
Mar 5, 2025, 8:41 AM
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In that ERA: (2021 - present)
Dabo: ACC championships: 2 (2022, 2024), Playoff appearances: 1
BB: ACC championships: 0, Elite 8: 1
By what metric has BB been more successful than Dabo?
Conference championships and playing for a national championship are the ONLY metric. By that count, Dabo is up 3-1.
Here's the thing. I like BB. He may well be the best coach ever at Clemson. I hope he wins the ACC this year and goes further than the elite 8. But even if he does, there is no comparison that any non partial person would make where your silly arguments for BB over Dabo holds water.
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Re: Dabo is going to do even bigger things by learning from Brownell.
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Dabo definitely made Brad feel like he he did something. I think Brad knows he wouldn't have a job unless Dabo did all that convincing he had to keep Brad's job. Dabo had work two jobs, football and basketball,.to turn the hoops program around, but he did it. Pretty soon he will take the training wheels off and see if Brad can handle things on his own.
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Dabo is an incredible guy.
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Mar 4, 2025, 2:06 PM
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We should make him AD, especially since he has basically made all the department-wide decisions that Neff seems to be getting credit for.
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Re: Dabo is an incredible guy.
Mar 4, 2025, 6:47 PM
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After he retires from coaching
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [100882]
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Tiger Titan [50654]
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Brad has won a world championship, something Dabo knows nothing about.***
Mar 4, 2025, 2:06 PM
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Again nonsense.
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Mar 4, 2025, 3:41 PM
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There is now "world championship" recognized by the NCAA in college basketball. But, I can't wait to hear your embarrassing explanation for this one.
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Tiger Titan [50654]
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Dont play dumb.
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Mar 4, 2025, 3:47 PM
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You know we won the World University Games.
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Your world must be so cool for you to live in.
Mar 5, 2025, 9:25 AM
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Whatever idea you have about your BB cult you find obscure or non universally accepted terms to support it.
The world university games is hardly a championship that most basketball fans are even aware of. And I will grant your well made and solid argument (again made in a way as derogatory toward Dabo) that he knows nothing about it, due to the fact that nothing similar exists in the college football world.
Again good job on your part of showing yourself to be what you criticize about Dabo supporters. You think BB is above any critique.
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Dont care. I am winning at life.***
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Re: Dabo is going to do even bigger things by learning from Brownell.
Mar 5, 2025, 4:33 PM
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What's ironic is that Brad Brownell would lambast you for all the negativity you speak about Dabo.
He would also point out that Dabo's been extremely supportive of the basketball program as well, and then lambast you yet again.
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This is why people dont like you. What is odd is it actually
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Spills over to causing people not to like Brad. It’s not his fault you’re an idiot.
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Re: This is why people dont like you. What is odd is it actually
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This is the heart of most basketball thinking on TNET.
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Re: If Tommy Bowden were coaching our 2024 football team
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Probably not.
But I still believe Dabo called the trick play that derailed all of our momentum and allowed them to comeback to beat us. Just horrible timing. Could have gone up 21-7 and sealed the game.
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Re: If Tommy Bowden were coaching our 2024 football team
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By double digits.
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Yes and we would have lost two or three other games as well.
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Re: If Tommy Bowden were coaching our 2024 football team
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Yes, as would Ford, Howard, etc.
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Paw Master [17008]
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Re: If Tommy Bowden were coaching our 2024 football team
Mar 4, 2025, 4:22 PM
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By three scores
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We would have gone 8-5!***
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Kudos to JK for
Mar 5, 2025, 9:04 AM
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Keeping a thread alive and keeping everyone involved …..last I looked this thread is soon to be 5 pages long.
Job well done JK 👍🏼…..”keep’m hooked””….land um later”….😀🤣
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