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All-TigerNet [13156]
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LOL @ CBS morning show
Jul 21, 2021, 7:29 AM
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“Unvaccinated people taking their cues from right-winged commentators”
Must be a lot of blacks and Hispanics listening to right-winged media.
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Heisman Winner [119748]
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If that doesn’t tell you the MSM is co-opted
Jul 21, 2021, 7:31 AM
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Nothing will…
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Oculus Spirit [97746]
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One day we will learn that our differences are education
Jul 21, 2021, 8:00 AM
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More than anything. A college degree puts you 45% more likely to be vaccinated. Ignorance is really our biggest enemy. Politicians of all stripes take advantage of that too.
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All-In [26514]
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plus you get to learn that you were born a racist***
Jul 21, 2021, 8:14 AM
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Oculus Spirit [97746]
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I missed that class. The purpose of an education is not to
Jul 21, 2021, 8:47 AM
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learn stuff. Clarification - A liberal arts education. It's to learn HOW to learn stuff. For example. You don't learn you're born a racist. You learn how to make a professor happy who thinks you were born a racist. You make her think you've "learned" what they think and you get your A and carry on. Go to the philosophy professor and make him think you've learned what they like to hear. Then on to the next. Rinse and repeat until you get a degree, meaning you have learned how to blow sunshine up any type of ###. Then off to the real world to figure out how to help people.
And for the record, you don't have to go to college to get this type of education...but it helps. Now science is very different. You need to show your biology professor you know everything about XX and XY sex chromosomes, then go over to your history class and show the professor you really think genders are fluid and are whatever people think they are is what they are. Then you go to history and make some professor think you've learned our founding fathers were racists. Then you go to chemistry and show you know chemistry. In the end, what you really learn is how to get what you need, good grades.
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Re: I missed that class. The purpose of an education is not to
Jul 21, 2021, 12:30 PM
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Agree with the above and in general the post by Tropical below, but in terms of the line "In many historical cases, survival was dependent upon strong affiliation with those that are “similar”." How about I went to my biology class and learned the black folk are genetically 99.9% the same as this white boy. Should we let the 0.1% be such a big deal? I even saw a show on the history channel that explained that all humans came from Africa in the beginning. And then I read the Bible and it says all are defended from Adam. Therefore, that's right, the garden of eden was in Africa.
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CU Guru [1515]
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Re: I missed that class. The purpose of an education is not to
Jul 21, 2021, 12:31 PM
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Perhaps everyone is born a racist. Humans are disposed …
Jul 21, 2021, 9:53 AM
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to trust and to be attached to family, clan, tribe, race and nation. There’s an inclination to distrust those that are different. In many historical cases, survival was dependent upon strong affiliation with those that are “similar”.
So racism may be somewhat instinctive or natural. After 9/11, I was uncomfortable boarding planes with people who looked Middle Eastern. In downtown city environments, I have higher safety concerns around groups of young Hispanics or Blacks. Yet I’m fully relaxed drinking a beer on the 19th hole after a round of golf. I offer no apologies, just self awareness.
Education and higher human thought allows additional perspectives _ maybe an affiliation with all mankind? That concept is embedded in Christianity and other religions. Certainly my success and safety is not dependent upon others being disadvantaged by laws, business practices or cultural norms.
Maybe I am a racist, maybe not. I’m not offended by the term or discussion.
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Re: Perhaps everyone is born a racist. Humans are disposed …
Jul 21, 2021, 9:59 AM
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Well said!
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I don’t think any of what you said is incorrect, but I also
Jul 21, 2021, 10:03 AM
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Think those textbook examples of profiling only meet the definition of racism as it’s come to be bastardized in modern parlance.
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All-TigerNet [11640]
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Didn't know the SEC and NFL were right wing groups....
Jul 21, 2021, 8:10 AM
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Only 6 of 14 SEC teams over 80% vaccination threshold.
Only 13 of 32 NFL teams over the threshold. 2 NFL teams are less than 50% vaccinated.
Must be a bunch of closet Trumpers.
LOL.
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Re: Look at Figure 2 in this link....
Jul 21, 2021, 8:19 AM
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Tiggity is correct though that vaccination rates track more closely with education than race.
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Re: LOL @ CBS morning show
Jul 21, 2021, 8:17 AM
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Most of us whether we chose to be vaccinated or not, are like the children we once were. We don't like to be told to do something. I still have great disdain for Brussel sprouts for that reason. Humans are weird critters.
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Re: LOL @ CBS morning show
Jul 21, 2021, 9:44 AM
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i just want my experimental juice FDA approved
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Dude - didn't you hear that white supremists are spreading
Jul 21, 2021, 10:16 AM
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anti-vaccine misinformation with the specific purpose of duping blacks into not getting the vaccine?
Try to keep up.
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Oculus Spirit [83131]
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Are you saying that some white people who aren't vaccinated
Jul 21, 2021, 11:59 AM
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aren't taking their cues from right-wing commentators, and that no blacks or hispanics listen/watch right-wing commentators?
Sounds like a true statement from CBS to me.
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Legend [15749]
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We would have to hear the whole quote to truly judge but
Jul 21, 2021, 1:07 PM
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your response is significantly more skewed than his mockery of the quote. Unless you think that the person on the show took pains to say that it is only a portion of people who are not getting vaccinated because of right-wing fear-mongering.
According to this site, 48% of white Americans are vaccinated and 36% of black Americans. Clearly the 64% of black Americans who haven't been vaccinated are not the same 12% that voted for Trump in 2020.
https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/percent-of-total-population-that-has-received-a-covid-19-vaccine-by-race-ethnicity/?currentTimeframe=0&sortModel=%7B%22colId%22:%22Location%22,%22sort%22:%22asc%22%7D
It is interesting...pundits want to paint people who choose not to get vaccinated as ignorant and brainwashed by right-wing nut jobs. But the data suggests that black Americans are avoiding the vaccine at a much higher clip than white Americans, and no one would put black Americans into the Trump supporting, right-wing embracing bucket. On the other hand, they certainly can't call them ignorant. So, they just kind of, don't look at it.
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Oculus Spirit [83131]
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How about this?
Jul 21, 2021, 2:47 PM
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All white, black, and hispanic people who are against being vaccinated, are ignorant and brainwashed by something, unless they have a legitimate health issue for not doing so, or are just lazy.
Now, as to the quote keowee posted, if indeed the person meant ALL non-vaccinated, it was stupid to say that, but that's not what he posted. He posted this:
"Unvaccinated people taking their cues from right-winged commentators”
I only address what people post. Not what they don't post.
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Legend [15749]
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Hmm. I wonder if we are reading the quote differently.
Jul 21, 2021, 2:57 PM
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I read "Unvaccinated people taking their cues from right-winged commentators” as saying that Unvaccinated people are taking their cues from right-winged commentators. But you might read it as referring to a specific subset of unvaccinated people. As in "There are some unvaccinated people that have health concerns, but unvaccinated people taking their cues from right-winged commentators are very frustrating blah blah blah-d-blah..." Like I said originally, we'd have to hear the whole discussion to really assess.
I would not call all people against the vaccine to be ignorant or brainwashed. To be sure, some are. However, I think a reasonable person could look at the rapid nature of the vaccine, the political pressures, the past failures and the relative risk for their particular demographic (young? No comorbidities?) and adopt a wait-and-see approach that is, in my opinion, in no way ignorant. I might disagree with it, but the reasoning is sound and fair.
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