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To all of you "Fans" that are blindly following and taking
Nov 20, 2014, 8:29 AM
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up for people just because....
Riddle me this...we have the top paid coordinator in ALL of college football and with the talent we have on offense we are currently ranked 61st in total offense and 59th in scoring offense. And we haven't scored an offensive TD in 2 games so far.
Is that acceptable? Top paid coordinator Period. Offensive "guru". etc.
Is it acceptable that we have a head coach that is calling out fans(who by and large fund his paycheck)even though he himself hasn't met the standard he set and is following an allegiance to a player that has played horribly this year?
It is ridiculous, especially considering how well certain members of this team have played that Dabo shoves Cole down our throats every chance he gets.
I love our football program, I have NEVER boo'd a player, coach, or any other Clemson person(and I do not agree with that at all). I like Dabo and CM, however, I am highly disappointed in how this year is going and the things they are saying to the media.
TD me if you wish, I'm just telling you like it is.
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what part of "good enough" do you not understand?
Nov 20, 2014, 8:33 AM
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oddly enough, losing every game to teams ranked in the Top 25 is somehow "good enough."
We are good enough, so just sit back and enjoy the wins against unranked teams. It could be worse.
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Can we talk about how awesome your banner is for a sec?
Nov 20, 2014, 8:43 AM
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#Bringthemtojustice
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Re: what part of "good enough" do you not understand?
Nov 20, 2014, 9:44 AM
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I haven't read all the replies in this thread yet, nor do I need to in order to understand that "good enough" is just a silly statement. We have the talent to be a NC title winner this year. Our HIGHLY paid coordinators and head coach are failing us (except Venables, that guy is amazing). In all honesty though, why should we as fans have to sit back and be happy with "good enough" when none of us are blind. We all see the potential. We all see the WRONG players on the field (mostly meaning Cole). We all see how awful the play calling on offense has been because of lack of adjusting to personnel.
To ask your fans to be silent while all of this silliness going on is like a Commander in Chief asking his people to support and follow him while he continually makes life worse for said followers. I could see this being "good enough" if our motto under our head coach was "Meh is what we strive for?" instead of "BEST is what we strive for!". We are accustomed to winning at least some of the big games in a season and rightfully so. We deserve, as paying fans, to see the best players on the field, not the guy that has the best hair or the one CDS wants to shape into a good player "cuz he likes him da best!".
TL;DR = OP is right. Best or Nothing. Always root for team, Never Boo, but speak your mind and maybe someone is reading. Go Tigers!!!
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Please name talent?******
Nov 20, 2014, 8:34 AM
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Re: Please name talent?******
Nov 20, 2014, 8:37 AM
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I agree. Some of Dabos fans are too blind to see the truth. I wish I knew why he defends Stoudt.
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Re: Please name talent?******
Nov 20, 2014, 9:14 AM
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Because who else is there for GA STATE? Repeat GA State.
Nick has been 3rd string for a reason. He will play vs GA STATE. Cole will start and play against GA State.
The reasons - I assume - are: 1. need to build Stoudt up in case he is needed against USC 2. help Stoudt regain some degrees of confidence can he can/must play better 3. give Stoudt one last chance because if he flails against GA State - then he is 3rd string 4. give the player, a SR, a little bit of decency and love - knocking him down will not help him or this team because Dabo is not the A$$clown 90 miles south of Clemson.
So the issue will be if Stoudt struggles against GA STATE and stays in there too long (subjective) then reporters should question Dabo.
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You can't be serious?
Nov 20, 2014, 8:38 AM
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Let's see: Tyshon Dye (who they refuse to use now that he's finally healthy) Mike Williams Artavis Scott Charone Peake Wayne Gallman Damarre Kit Germone Hopper Jordan Legette (TE have been painfully misused) Stanton Seckinger
There's plenty of talent on this team to score points with Stoudt at QB. We just can't seem to do so because we run the same #### plays over and over that don't work.
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Now, there you go again...***
Nov 20, 2014, 8:43 AM
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Re: Now, there you go again...***
Nov 20, 2014, 9:13 AM
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Laying down the facts? You got it buddy.
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Re: You can't be serious?
Nov 20, 2014, 9:25 AM
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> Let's see: > Tyshon Dye (who they refuse to use now that he's > finally healthy) > Mike Williams > Artavis Scott > Charone Peake > Wayne Gallman > Damarre Kit > Germone Hopper > Jordan Legette (TE have been painfully misused) > Stanton Seckinger > > > There's plenty of talent on this team to score points > with Stoudt at QB. We just can't seem to do so > because we run the same #### plays over and over that > don't work.
I agree with all the above.
And that is all on Morris, he only has about 4 plays in his arsenal the rest is window dressing.
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This is the greatest thread -
Nov 20, 2014, 9:32 AM
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Agree that we DO have talent around us, and lots of it. i don't understand how people sit around here on signing day and jizz their pants about 4 / 5 stars guys then say we don't have talent. Also, the weakness in QB is accentuated by the Chad Kelly dismissal, imagine if we could pluck him off the bench...
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Re: Shirley, you can't be Sirius***
Nov 20, 2014, 9:25 AM
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Rumack: Well, I don't have anything to say, you've done the best you could. You really have, the best you could. You can't expect to win em all. But, I want to tell you something I've kept to myself through these years. I was in the war myself, medical corps. I was on late duty one night when they brought in a badly wounded pilot from one of the raids. He could barely talk. He looked at me and said, "The odds were against us up there, but we went in anyway, I'm glad the Captain made the right decision." The pilot's name was George Zip.
Ted Striker: George Zip said that?
Rumack: The last thing he said to me, "Doc," he said, "some time when the crew is up against it, and the breaks are beating the boys, tell them to get out there and give it all they got and win just one for the Zipper. I don't know where I'll be then, Doc," he said, "but I won't smell too good, that's for sure."
Ted Striker: Excuse me doc, I got a plane to land.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080339/quotes?item=qt0484140
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Yea...it's completely rational.....
Nov 20, 2014, 8:35 AM
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to expect the same level of performance and success even with the litany of injuries the offense has sustained so far this season.
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Every team battles through injuries, You act as if we've
Nov 20, 2014, 8:38 AM
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been playing playoff teams all year.
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This is more than a case of battling through injuries
Nov 20, 2014, 8:46 AM
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We're talking about the two starting runningbacks, several on the offensive line, two widereceivers, and a quarterback.
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Zac Brooks may have hurt, however, based on previous years
Nov 20, 2014, 8:52 AM
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I don't think we can definitively say he was a much better option than the guys playing.
The OL injuries have hurt some, however, if you look at the depth chart from the uga game and the gt games, you'll notice that 4/5 starters are playing and the 5th is back(joe gore).
Who is the 2nd wide receiver? I also think this is our deepest position and injuries have had the least impact.
And to address the qb injury...you mean the guy that wasn't our starter to begin the year? The guy that didn't give us the best chance to win according to our coaches?
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Hasn't Dabo acknowledged that it's on the coaches?***
Nov 20, 2014, 9:23 AM
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So once I lay that out you go from injuries to coaches....
Nov 20, 2014, 9:25 AM
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got it....
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My point is, Dabo has taken responsibility for it.***
Nov 20, 2014, 9:48 AM
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You do realize that's his job right?***
Nov 20, 2014, 9:50 AM
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All coaches certainly don't take ownership of team problems***
Nov 20, 2014, 10:03 AM
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Re: Hasn't Dabo acknowledged that it's on the coaches?***
Nov 20, 2014, 9:33 AM
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Yes he does but talk is cheap. He's been blaming turnover problems on coaching for years now. We always seem to have a problem with it in big games. They are the very reason we have lost the big games every year.
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So Auburn, LSU, Georgia and Ohio State weren't big games?***
Nov 20, 2014, 9:50 AM
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The awbarn team that if I'm not mistaken went 3-9? are you
Nov 20, 2014, 9:51 AM
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really going to brag on that?
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They weren't 3 - 9 when we played them....
Nov 20, 2014, 10:01 AM
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and would you rather we lost.
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Re: They weren't 3 - 9 when we played them....
Nov 20, 2014, 10:03 AM
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of course we wouldn't rather lose but what's your point? That team sucked that year. They beat 1 FBS school lol
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So Georgia wasn't a big game last year either...
Nov 20, 2014, 10:21 AM
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since that team failed to live up to expectations too.
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Really dude? an 8 win team to a 3 win team...
Nov 20, 2014, 10:26 AM
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your "rebuttals" are getting absolutely ridiculous.
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Re: So Auburn, LSU, Georgia and Ohio State weren't big games?***
Nov 20, 2014, 10:02 AM
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Sure they were big games, but so was SC 2009, SC 2010, SC 2011, SC 2012, SC 2013, FSU 2013, FSU 2014, GT 2014
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Let's not forget the WVU debacle....***
Nov 20, 2014, 10:08 AM
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Re: Let's not forget the WVU debacle....***
Nov 20, 2014, 10:25 AM
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forgot about that one.
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Re: So in other words....
Nov 20, 2014, 10:23 AM
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His original post:
"Yes he does but talk is cheap. He's been blaming turnover problems on coaching for years now. We always seem to have a problem with it in big games. They are the very reason we have lost the big games every year. "
Then you proceed to point out 4 games that prove what you see as a point...even though 1 was against a TURRIBLE team.
He then points out the litany of other games that prove his point.
Now, you come back with that rebuttal?
What it tells me is that we've lost many more big games(usually with a good bit or turnovers) than we've won.....Which I'm pretty sure proves his original point that you took exception to.
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Re: So in other words....
Nov 20, 2014, 10:38 AM
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The LSU game is about the only game Dabo has won. Where the Tigers were truly a underdog. We should have beat UGA at home last year and OSU with the talent we had. As far as big game record Dabo is behind the 8 ball with that stat. The only 2 times we have beat Auburn lately were down years for them. The bottom line is our 2 biggest games every year we are 2-10 with Dabo.
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Re: So in other words....
Nov 20, 2014, 10:26 AM
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No, you have a problem with keeping up with conversations or you just purposely change the subject when you're getting your @$$ handed to you in them.
It's unacceptable to continue to be plagued by turnovers in big games.
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He's obviously an apologist.***
Nov 20, 2014, 10:41 AM
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You guys seem to be under the impression....
Nov 20, 2014, 11:22 AM
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that I am somehow defending Dabo's record against good teams or ranked opponents.
I'm not.
In fact, I completely agree that it needs to improve.
However, you make it seem as if Dabo's tems have underperformed in all big games and that's simply not the case.
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Re: You guys seem to be under the impression....
Nov 20, 2014, 12:27 PM
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Ok Let's list the big games. Let's do a list. Definition of big game: Ranked when we play them, FSU, SC or bowl game.
FSU | 2008 | L | 2 turnovers |
SC | 2008 | W | 2 turnovers |
Nebraska | 2008 | L | 2 turnovers |
GT | 2009 | L | 2 turnovers |
TCU | 2009 | L | 0 turnovers |
Miami | 2009 | W | 3 turnovers |
FSU | 2009 | W | 2 turnovers |
SC | 2009 | L | 3 turnovers |
GT | 2009 | L | 2 turnovers |
Kentucky | 2009 | W | 0 turnovers |
Auburn | 2010 | L | 0 turnovers |
Miami | 2010 | L | 6 turnovers |
NC State | 2010 | W | 3 turnovers |
FSU | 2010 | L | 2 turnovers |
SC | 2010 | L | 3 turnovers |
S. Florida | 2010 | L | 2 turnovers |
Auburn | 2011 | W | 1 turnover |
FSU | 2011 | W | 1 turnover |
VT | 2011 | W | 1 turnover |
SC | 2011 | L | 1 turnover |
VT | 2011 | W | 0 turnovers |
WVU | 2011 | L | 4 turnovers |
FSU | 2012 | L | 1 turnover |
SC | 2012 | L | 2 turnovers |
LSU | 2012 | W | 2 turnovers |
UGA | 2013 | W | 1 turnover |
FSU | 2013 | L | 4 turnovers |
SC | 2013 | L | 6 turnovers |
Ohio St. | 2013 | W | 2 turnovers |
UGA | 2014 | L | 1 turnover |
FSU | 2014 | L | 1 turnover |
GT | 2014 | L | 3 turnovers |
Now lets do some math
big game record 12-20
of the 20 losses, 14 had more than 1 turnover.
of the 20 losses, 18 had at least 1 turnover
of the 32 total games, 20 had more than 1 turnover.
of the 32 total games, 28 had at least 1 turnover
2008 (half a season/not applicable) 2009 - 24 total turnovers - 12 came in big games (7) 2010 - 23 total turnovers - 16 came in big games (6) 2011 - 24 total turnovers - 8 came in big games (6) 2012 - 21 total turnovers - 5 came in big games (3) 2013 - 24 total turnovers - 13 came in big games (4) 2014 - 15 total turnovers - 5 came in big games (3)
we average about 2 turnovers per game under Dabo. Average turnovers per game under Dabo: 1.5 Average turnovers in big games: 2.0
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CUATFL droppin' dem bombs***
Nov 20, 2014, 12:30 PM
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Re: Yea...it's completely rational.....
Nov 20, 2014, 8:41 AM
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Good offensive minds are able to produce regardless of players on the field.
Example Connor Halladay just broke his leg and his top WR was already hurt. His backup came in mid 1st quarter and threw for over 346 and 2 TD's. The next week he threw 471 and 5 TD's.
Is he that great? Probably not, WaSt recruiting isn't that great. Mike Leach is just a great offensive mind.
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I don't think rational folks are expecting the same
Nov 20, 2014, 8:55 AM
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level of performance, but 65 passing yards against the 97th ranked pass defense in the nation? Going 12 quarters against Louisville, BC, and Syracuse with 3 offensive TDs? Doesn't seem irrational to me to expect a little more than that given we are in year four of Chad's offense. Just my 2 cents.
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Exactly!!!***
Nov 20, 2014, 8:56 AM
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Re: To all of you "Fans" that are blindly following and taking
Nov 20, 2014, 8:35 AM
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That's what bitter beer will do to you!
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Add Caldwell to that list. He's not been as good as billed.***
Nov 20, 2014, 8:36 AM
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I can be displeased with the offense without demanding
Nov 20, 2014, 8:40 AM
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coaches be fired or getting furious at Dabo because he won't publicly throw Cole Stoudt under the bus to the media.
The only person who's seat should be warm right now is Robbie Caldwell. If Morris' offense has another season like this next year come talk to me. A few months ago it was a popular opinion here that Tajh's struggles to land on an NFL team were evidence of what a great coach Morris was. That he could take this "undraftable" QB and turn him into an All ACC caliber player and Clemson great. Now he doesn't know how to coach.
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I have not demanded anyone be fired, nor have I said Dabo
Nov 20, 2014, 8:43 AM
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should throw stoudt under the bus....however, I am beyond tired of hearing how he was a game MVP and has given his all to this university, blah blah blah mwah mwah mwah. Same crap every week. When the fact of the matter is he isn't and hasn't been getting it done as our QB.
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I TD'd you for the principle of the matter,
Nov 20, 2014, 8:42 AM
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not because of what you said.
HTH
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Re: To all of you "Fans" that are blindly following and taking
Nov 20, 2014, 8:55 AM
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You do realize our starting QB has been hurt and has missed 5 games? Our backup QB is playing hurt? Our 3rd team QB was kicked off the team? Our 4th team QB is a former walkon? Our starting TB got hurt in fall camp and is out for the season? Our most talented TB has been hurt all season and is just now healthy enough to play, but hasn't played in two years. One of our most talented freshman TB is out for the season. Because of injuries we haven't played the same starting OL but two games this year. TE Sam Cooper missed 6 games with a broken leg, Leggett missed several games with a knee injury, Stanton missed several games with an injury. One out starting WR Peake has missed at least 7 games.
I don't understand why anyone wouldn't think this would effect the offense. If we really had another option at QB besides Cole I'm sure they would play him. We're lucky it hasn't been worse with all the injuries we've had this year.
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You are mistaking effect with crippling....
Nov 20, 2014, 9:00 AM
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You can't tell me our backups at most positions on offense are not more talented than a lot of the teams starters we've played this year....
Also, you all keep referring to our starting QB missing games....Stoudt hasn't missed a game...he started the season as our starter....
As for RB injuries, as I said above based on previous years, you can't definitively tell me that he would make that big of a difference. Heck he was in a battle with DJ howard and we've all seen what he's done this year....
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the bigger question...
Nov 20, 2014, 8:55 AM
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Do you like the apples in your Happy Meal?
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Re: the bigger question...
Nov 20, 2014, 8:56 AM
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Wouldn't that be a better kweshun for Cole?
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Ring of Honor [22922]
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Obviously, if you read my OP you'd know I don't do "happy"***
Nov 20, 2014, 9:07 AM
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I'm not blind.
Nov 20, 2014, 9:03 AM
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I question every move and word our coaches make.
I've read every perspective that I've found here in Tnet and most of the other Clemson websites along with many other sources. There are many different views. Most of those complaining about Clemson's football program change their tunes about once ever few months.
First, the main dumping line was 'S&C program needed to be scraped and rebuilt from the ground up.' The entire time this was happening our offense was running HUNH (no substituting) for 80+ plays per game. Few now concern themselves with our S&C program. From the same crowd 'Morris was our only salvation.' 'Morris is a waste of money because he can't select and manage an offensive line.'
Now Brent is our only salvation. Next year he'll be the one sucking hind teat. He's going to suffer losses of players on defense comparable to those we lost on offense last season.
I can handle everybody biching. What really bothers me is that I'm fully aware that you guys never learn. You were wrong before and you're wrong now. You can't see past the end of your noses. You bich about something and blame those who are in charge wanting to see them fired until they fix the problem then think you're the only ones who saw a problem in the first place.
You never backup and say I was wrong you just jump to the next problem and have an emotional breakdown over it.
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Ring of Honor [22922]
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Care to reference any of my posts? since you seem to want to
Nov 20, 2014, 9:05 AM
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"attack" me....
Or care to explain how I'm wrong?
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [103133]
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Yeah, here's the link:
Nov 20, 2014, 9:48 AM
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...Riddle me this...we have the top paid coordinator in ALL of college football and with the talent we have on offense we are currently ranked 61st in total offense and 59th in scoring offense. And we haven't scored an offensive TD in 2 games so far..."
http://www.tigernet.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=1411346&tstart=0
Do you even read what you post?
Our starting QB is out, our backup has had a shoulder injury and was called on to play after taking no reps in practice that week due to the injury and all of a sudden our OC isn't earning his money?
Did you just now discover a flaw in Morris' scheme? No!
Did you point out poor playcalling? NO!
Problem in training or players not knowing system? NO?
Were you complaining about Morris last year? NO!
Did you point out what Morris is doing or has done wrong? NO, just bich and whine.
Sorry, the dumping has just about run me off the board for the last few days. You got the blunt end of my resentment.
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Ring of Honor [22922]
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Again, how is that wrong? You didn't prove your point.....
Nov 20, 2014, 9:56 AM
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you said "You were wrong before and you're wrong now. You can't see past the end of your noses. You bich about something and blame those who are in charge wanting to see them fired until they fix the problem then think you're the only ones who saw a problem in the first place.
You never backup and say I was wrong you just jump to the next problem and have an emotional breakdown over it. "
Please point out a post or posts that prove what you've said about me....
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [103133]
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OK, you're right.
Nov 20, 2014, 10:03 AM
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I ain't playin.
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Ring of Honor [22922]
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To further elaborate....
Nov 20, 2014, 10:00 AM
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to answer your questions:
Obviously I read my posts...what kind of question is that?
When did I specify a particular week? I actually referenced season stats.
No, and that's not my job.
please see above.
again see previous answer.
Comparing last year to this year is apples and oranges.
Not my job to critique CM, however, based on how our offense has played and where we stand nationally I feel as though I've made an extremely valid point...
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Dabo has acknowledged it's on the coaches.***
Nov 20, 2014, 9:11 AM
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Then don't accept it. Go away.***
Nov 20, 2014, 9:27 AM
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Thank you for that nugget of pure wisdom....
Nov 20, 2014, 9:31 AM
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smdh.
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I totally agree that more time should be...
Nov 20, 2014, 9:35 AM
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spent praising those who are truly playing well, e.g. Jarrett and the defense. They are the reason we didn't lose more games and should be recognized. Yet, all we hear about is the non-performing offense and how "good" they really are...even though it doesn't show up on the field.
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here's your answers........
Nov 20, 2014, 9:39 AM
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This is NOT on Morris...
with watson at QB we're a top notch offense with the following: -true freshman QB (HAND PICKED BY OUR HIGHLY PAID OC) -mostly freshman/sophomore WRs -pedestrian/below average Oline (This has been the case for probably 15-20 years, i THINK it's changing) -pedestrian/below average Running Backs (mostly due to injuries and BIG, BIG "close misses" on the recruiting front)
with Cole stoudt (who was NOT recruited by our highly paid QB) at QB we're on par with the wakes/syracuses/UNCs/etc...
Blame goes on Dabo for having put us in this horrendous QB situation (not injury wise) but the lack of talent is pathetic............and don't even get me started on the way he shoved stoudt down our throats and belittled the fans as if they don't know what talented QB play looks like.
this is NOT morris' problem
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Ring of Honor [22922]
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Please explain how the offenses performance is not on Morris
Nov 20, 2014, 9:46 AM
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The guy who sets our offensive game plan each week? the same guy that named stoudt the starter? the guy that thought he gave us the best chance to win? Has spent 4 years as Stoudt's qb coach and OC? That guy? He deserves more of the blame for Cole's bad play. He has set the kid up to fail.
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Re: Please explain how the offenses performance is not on Morris
Nov 20, 2014, 10:42 AM
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If I read that right, he might have been insinuating that Dabo has more say in the QB situation than the Chad does.
Which isn't unreasonable because Dabo is the HC. But it's possible that Morris wanted to start Watson all along. He may want to start Schess now. We don't know.
I don't disagree with anything you've really said, that's just how I read the other post.
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Ring of Honor [22922]
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Dabo may have overruled CM, but at the end of the day CM is
Nov 20, 2014, 10:48 AM
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responsible for the offense. That's his job.
I truly don't think that has happened, but it's possible.
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Athletic Dir [1151]
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Re: To all of you "Fans" that are blindly following and taking
Nov 20, 2014, 9:49 AM
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Georgia held the most potent offense I've seen in auburn to 7. Eli threw 5 picks this weekend.
Ish happens
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Re: To all of you "Fans" that are blindly following and taking
Nov 20, 2014, 9:52 AM
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Spot on I have to agree with everything you say
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What Talent On Offense?
Nov 20, 2014, 10:48 AM
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The only top flight talent we currently have on offense is Deshaun Watson. Everyone else is, at best, just a guy.
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Ring of Honor [22922]
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If you really believe that then you obviously don't keep up
Nov 20, 2014, 10:49 AM
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with Clemson Football.
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Re: To all of you "Fans" that are blindly following and taking
Nov 20, 2014, 11:41 AM
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your name is Anonymous! Really? You are unacceptable. I will stick With Dabo, Chad and Brett. I hope you leave
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Ring of Honor [22922]
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And yours is 1965tiger...wtph does that have to do with
Nov 20, 2014, 11:42 AM
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anything?
Also, where did I say I wasn't "with" Dabo, Chad, or BV?
Think before you type. Jeez.
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You can always count on 1965tiger for some in-depth
Nov 20, 2014, 11:50 AM
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football discussion
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CU Guru [1513]
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Re: To all of you "Fans" that are blindly following and taking
Nov 20, 2014, 12:01 PM
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Anon: I liked your post. Guess the truth hurts many on this site!
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Lord forbid we have a coach who shows allegiance to players
Nov 20, 2014, 12:07 PM
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Fire Dabo!
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Ring of Honor [22922]
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C'mon man, seriously?
Nov 20, 2014, 12:13 PM
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Cole is the ONLY player he has done this for in his time at Clemson. PERIOD.
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