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FB Update: ACC confirms no review or appeal of Smith's suspension
Nov 7, 2014, 12:36 PM
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What a shame. Disappointed the review official would have
Nov 7, 2014, 12:38 PM
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not reversed that, when everyone was saying that he should
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Re: What a shame. Disappointed the review official would have
Nov 7, 2014, 2:25 PM
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Wow no way for any kind of check and balances, I guess the NCAA people could never make a mistake. I think all of the colleges should protest that stupid rule.
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Ultimate Tiger [33710]
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how about a comment on accountability?***
Nov 7, 2014, 12:38 PM
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Re: how about a comment on accountability? OK
Nov 7, 2014, 12:39 PM
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Those at the league offices are no account. 
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Clemson Icon [24760]
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Paul Johnson is giddy over that one.
Nov 7, 2014, 12:40 PM
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That is huge going into the Tech game. One of the most important positions on the defense against these guys.
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TigerNet Elite [69946]
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The ACC Fix was in full-force last night and next Saturday.***
Nov 7, 2014, 12:41 PM
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All-In [26968]
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Yes, the ACC really wants GT to beat Clemson!!!!
Nov 7, 2014, 1:21 PM
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That makes so much sense!!! Then they wouldn't have a team in the Orange Bowl, and that is exactly what the ACC wants.
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Clemson Icon [27824]
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Duke, assuming they win out and lose the ACCCG, would be
Nov 7, 2014, 1:30 PM
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the highest ranked ACC team not in the playoff and would be in the Orange Bowl.
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All-In [26968]
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Ah, so the ACC really wants Duke in the Orange Bowl.
Nov 7, 2014, 1:31 PM
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I can see that.
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Tobacco Road Rigging.***
Nov 7, 2014, 1:32 PM
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All-In [26968]
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Yeah, they have been stacking the deck for Duke football
Nov 7, 2014, 1:34 PM
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for ages.
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Clemson Icon [27824]
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Actually, you just touched on our point. They haven't had
Nov 7, 2014, 1:36 PM
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many chances to in the past and don't want to miss out on this one...
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Clemson Icon [27824]
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Thanks, I didn't know that was a rule.***
Nov 7, 2014, 1:35 PM
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Rival Killer [2610]
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Not so fast
Nov 7, 2014, 1:45 PM
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Teams, teammates, and coaches have a way of rising up and compensating for injustices. Paul should be very afraid right now.
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Head Coach [939]
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Re: FB Update: ACC confirms no review or appeal of Smith's suspension
Nov 7, 2014, 12:41 PM
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Oh well that makes sense.
What a ridiculous policy. Can we appeal to the NCAA?
That official needs to be suspended at the very least. Inexcusable when you have replay.
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Standout [212]
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#FREESMITH***
Nov 7, 2014, 12:41 PM
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This should be a teachable moment and they can tell us
Nov 7, 2014, 12:42 PM
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exactly why it was targeting and why the play was upheld so that it can be avoided going forward.
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Re: This should be a teachable moment and they can tell us
Nov 9, 2014, 1:25 PM
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They would certainly have to stretch the intent to justify that it was a good call. Not sure, even they, the high and mighty ACC, NC homer, favoritism showing, demigods, could explain that travesty of justice away.
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Standout [303]
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#reinstatesmith
Nov 7, 2014, 12:43 PM
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Let's not get carried away like he's a wrongly accused criminal. It's a game, it's a bad call, and the ACC can do something about it.
#reinstatesmith Sent to @theACCFootball
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Re: #reinstatesmith
Nov 7, 2014, 12:45 PM
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Can someone #### this for me? I don't have tweeter
#reinstatesmith
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Clemson Icon [27824]
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+1.***
Nov 7, 2014, 12:47 PM
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Rock Defender [51]
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I'm like hillary, I wouldn't
Nov 7, 2014, 1:30 PM
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know a "twit from a ####". But I'll give it a try and #### old swoffie, he seems to be a twit, or vice versa.
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I beg to differ. Hillary knows a twit from a ####....***
Nov 7, 2014, 7:26 PM
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Paw Master [17004]
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Re: I beg to differ. Hillary knows a twit from a ####....***
Nov 9, 2014, 1:28 PM
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No, it's Bill who knows a #### from a twit.
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Re: #reinstatesmith
Nov 7, 2014, 1:54 PM
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It was one of many bad calls that gave them a first down that could have ended up winning the game for them and resulted in us losing a player. That one call could have resulted in us losing two games. Kinda a big deal when the refs have an easy job when replay can be used.
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Paw Master [17004]
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Re: #reinstatesmith
Nov 9, 2014, 1:33 PM
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It is hard for me to believe that somebody in the review booth could get that so wrong without malice and aforethought. It's just not really believable that the call could be sustained after a review by a "non-partisan" and "unbiased" party. I call for a BS 15 yard penalty flag to be thrown on that one.
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Orange Blooded [3194]
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Just wondering what would happen if we did
Nov 7, 2014, 12:46 PM
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Decide to play him the first half? What would be our penalty?
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Clemson Icon [24760]
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Playing an ineligable player likely results in a forfeit
Nov 7, 2014, 12:48 PM
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Would be my guess.
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North Carolin did it for 18 years. No problem......***
Nov 7, 2014, 7:27 PM
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Re: North Carolin did it for 18 years. No problem......***
Nov 9, 2014, 1:34 PM
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Kudos! Well played!!!
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The head official should take the blame then
Nov 7, 2014, 12:47 PM
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That was the worst officiated game ive watched all year and im talking all of college football! I saw wake hold and grab our face masks all night, not turn to find the ball in the air but hold our wr hands down, yet we were penalized for great plays! Our DBs are taught to lead with your front arm to knock the ball down and they did and were called for a great play! Those officials are a disgrace to the league and Swofford yet again gets away with giving us the business! I'm not a conspiracy guy just a realist
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Orange Phenom [14675]
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O.K. Well, in that case, whomever was in the replay booth
Nov 7, 2014, 12:54 PM
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should be suspended without pay for at least one week, if not just outright relieved of his/her duties. Their incompetence has led to a young man wrongly being suspended. There should be consequences.
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Re: O.K. Well, in that case, whomever was in the replay booth
Nov 9, 2014, 1:38 PM
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Severe consequences and repercussions for a flagrant abuse. I can excuse the ref on the field for the call, but not the one reviewing who had the chance to see what we all saw that proved it was BS.
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CU Guru [1047]
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The Big 10 reinstated Earnest Thomas after being ejected
Nov 7, 2014, 12:59 PM
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for targeting. Why can't the ACC do it?
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Re: The Big 10 reinstated Earnest Thomas after being ejected
Nov 7, 2014, 1:02 PM
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Because "the rule says that conferences can't review and overturn the decis..."
Because the ACC are a bunch of ####### and Swofford hates us.
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CU Guru [1047]
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The Big 10 commissioner is the one who reinstated the kid...***
Nov 7, 2014, 1:07 PM
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Game Changer [1816]
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I don't see why that matters--the point is that they
Nov 7, 2014, 2:33 PM
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overturned the suspension. The same thing should happen in Robert Smith's case.
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CU Guru [1599]
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Ok, but
Nov 7, 2014, 1:07 PM
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The in-game review needs to not go by the "indisputable evidence" rule. They should be able to confirm or deny the call on the field as if making it the first time. I don't know what the review rules are, but hopefully that is not one of them.
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I think all replay reviews would fall under
Nov 7, 2014, 1:14 PM
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"indisputable evidence" guidelines.
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CU Guru [1599]
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Do you see why that's garbage in a case like this though?
Nov 7, 2014, 3:55 PM
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Refs shouldn't be afraid to call targeting so that it can be accurately determined in the booth. Considering this call turns into a multi-game-effecting penalty, they have to get it right or allow appeals.
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Rival Killer [2609]
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So the NCAA passed a rule prohibiting conferences from
Nov 7, 2014, 1:19 PM
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righting an obvious wrong? Something is broken here, folks.
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All-In [26968]
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That is not really true. The conference is not prohibited
Nov 7, 2014, 1:27 PM
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from righting the wrong. It now is done by a replay official immediately after the play, not the league office the following week.
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Rival Killer [2609]
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Well, actually it is right. The conference is not allowed
Nov 7, 2014, 1:38 PM
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to correct the mistake. The mistake being that of the replay official. So, yeah, it's right.
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All-In [26968]
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True, they are not allowed two opportunities to correct it.***
Nov 7, 2014, 1:40 PM
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Rival Killer [2609]
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Or even one.
Nov 7, 2014, 1:43 PM
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Thanks so much for understanding!
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Partner. Argue with an idiot and he will beat you with
Nov 7, 2014, 7:30 PM
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experience every time.
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Standout [310]
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Can't admit they were wrong
Nov 7, 2014, 1:37 PM
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Nm
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Paw Warrior [4913]
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Who was in the replay booth and how will they be handled?
Nov 7, 2014, 1:52 PM
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There is no explanation for this other than incompetence or bias. Someone should be fired.
This led to 3 points by Wake, hurt a young man and will hurt us against GaTech. Maybe that's what the replay official wanted.
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Walk-On [141]
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SOCON overturned an ejection 2 weeks ago?
Nov 7, 2014, 4:02 PM
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I don't understand why we can't appeal. The Southern Conference overturned an ejection of Carson Smith after an ejection a few weeks ago. They admitted they made a mistake after The Citadel appealed. How is it that The Citadel can have an ejection overturned but we cannot?
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Re: SOCON overturned an ejection 2 weeks ago?
Nov 7, 2014, 7:22 PM
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the only way you can appeal a targeting hit is if the schools playing do not have a replay booth and can watch the play right then. If the target happens in 1st half, the coach has appeal before the 2nd half starts, and if it occurs during 2nd half, the appeal has to be made immediately after the game.
Not all SO Con teams have replay for home games.
Not sure if this is what happened, but I do know that how some conferences do it
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All-TigerNet [5919]
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1 minute and 45 seconds
Nov 7, 2014, 7:34 PM
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That's how long it took the replay official to make his ruling.
By the way, Keith Roden, the replay official, is a graduate of The Citadel.
Maybe he thought it could be overruled later.
That's an awful quick FINAL DECISION.
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CU Guru [1571]
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Since you know a little about said official how about a
Nov 7, 2014, 10:18 PM
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phone number so we can call him every minute and 45 seconds and hang up, to
just let him know how quick his decision was and annoying it can be to fans.
Some think that amount of time is an entirety but he should know how short that
amount of time he spent hurting a non paid players future. He is paid to make the
correct decision and has a wealth of technology at his finger tips and he chose to
make a quick decision and the wrong decision at that. In America no one accepts the
the blame for mistakes but rather try to explain it way or blame some one else. This
guy needs to come out and say I blew the call or he needs to get a new job. Now that I
have seen him in action he qualifies for a drive through fast food window operator.
They never get your order right and by the time you figure it out it is too late.
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All-American [582]
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Address to contact The ACC..
Nov 7, 2014, 4:23 PM
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Contact Us
Tell us how we are doing.
The ACC and Raycom Sports are always looking to engage with fans of our member institutions. Please provide us any feedback and helpful ideas.
Atlantic Coast Conference
4512 Weybridge Lane
Greensboro, NC 27407
feedback@theacc.org
336-854-8787 phone
336-854-8797 fax
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CU Guru [1899]
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Re: Address to contact The ACC.. Thank you...
Nov 8, 2014, 7:09 PM
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I just sent my epistle to the email address.
Thank you for posting it. I've never sent anything
before...but this was just too, too much.
GO TIGERS!!!
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Will the league be issuing a formal apology?
Nov 7, 2014, 4:42 PM
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That's the least they can do.
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Freshman [3]
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Re: FB Update: ACC confirms no review or appeal of Smith's suspension
Nov 7, 2014, 4:44 PM
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Call Mike Strickland With The ACC And Complain:
The ACC and Raycom Sports are always looking to engage with fans of our member institutions. Please provide us any feedback and helpful ideas.
Atlantic Coast Conference
4512 Weybridge Lane
Greensboro, NC 27407
feedback@theacc.org
336-854-8787 phone
336-854-8797 fax
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All-In [10883]
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I don't blame them for calling it on the field...
Nov 7, 2014, 7:02 PM
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But the replay clearly (no fan speak) showed it wasn't targeting. Heck, if it was a coot in place of Smith, I'd still defend him. That was just a dumb call and now no one will answer for it...it'll just get swept under the rug and that person in the booth will continue to be incompetent at their job.
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Associate AD [1060]
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That explanation is total crap. Last year there was a review
Nov 8, 2014, 8:12 AM
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of the play during the game. The 15 yard penalty was not reviewable, but the automatic ejection was reviewable. And, overturning the objection was not held to the "indisputable evidence" standard. Basically, in 2013 the on field official decided if there should be a 15 yard penalty and the booth official decided if there should be an ejection.
The change for 2014 was to "fix" the issue of if the player wasn't ejected, it can't be targeting, so the penalty shouldn't stand. The intent of the rule change was to further "right the wrong" of a bad call. The ACC/NCAA is now using it as an excuse to cover up complete incompetence or corruption on the part of the booth official.
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Paw Master [17004]
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Shameful!
Nov 8, 2014, 10:48 AM
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Shameful!!!!! That is all that needs to be said, and to try to convince all of us that we didn't see what we all saw is insanity. Glad I don't drink what they seem to be drinking.
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Paw Master [17004]
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Shameful!
Nov 8, 2014, 10:52 AM
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Shameful!!!!! That is all that needs to be said, and to try to convince all of us that we didn't see what we all saw is insanity. Glad I don't drink what they seem to be drinking.
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Someone MUST pay
Nov 8, 2014, 1:34 PM
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-Doc
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