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Ostrich Update:
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Ostrich Update:


Feb 13, 2013, 11:46 AM

Ostrich Update:

• There are currently 124 Voting D-1 programs in the NCAA.

•Approximately 65 of those institutions have a legitimate way to play in the BCS bowl series.

•59 of these voting members have zero motivation to,
o Streamline Recruiting Rules and processes
o Provide Spending money to athletes that can’t work outside jobs due to program demands
o Distribute revenue based on institutions contribution to the PIE

1. The 65 schools have need for rules, scheduling flexibility, and revenue sharing that are very different than the other 59.
2. There are schools in the (bottom 59) that believe and are committed to being in the top 65. (BYU, UConn, UCF, USF, even east Carolina for example)
3. There are schools in the top 65, that are not committed to competing at the top level in football (Wake, for example)
4. The current organizations voting methods, grants an inordinate amount of power to schools that are not even affected by the outcome of their votes.
5. The vast majority of those 65-70 teams that share the bigger vision currently reside in
a. ACC
b. Big12
c. Big 10
d. Pac !2
e. SEC
6. Scattered as independents , big east left overs , and shunned up and comers are the rest.
7. Those 60-70 schools have a strong common need to control their own destiny.
8. The most practical way for this to happen is through a 4-step process
a. Conference Realignment ( eliminating the dead weight that exists in the existing 5 BCS conferences, again use Wake Forest as an example…sorry deacs)
b. Filling the vacated dead weight space with the deserving outliers (example BYU)
c. Creating 4 separate divisions (conferences), under one “alliance” comprised of the 60-70 committed schools.
d. Breaking away from the NCAA and negotiating deals in a model similar to the NFL, complete with revenue sharing.
The most important thing for any school, that wants to compete at the highest level in College Football , is to be in one of the conferences that break from the NCAA after the dust settles.
As the Big10 is showing, playing schools outside of the “break away” schools will be a thing of the past. Once the breakaway occurs, this “super league” will only play amongst itself.

Division I conferences
Note: Conferences with automatic entry to the Bowl Championship Series are denoted with an asterisk (*).
Note: Conferences within the Football Bowl Subdivision but not the BCS are denoted with a pound sign (#).

• America East Conference
• Atlantic Coast Conference (ACC)*
• Atlantic Sun Conference
• Atlantic 10 Conference (A-10)
• Big East Conference*
• Big Sky Conference
• Big South Conference
• Big Ten Conference (Big Ten) *
• Big 12 Conference (Big 12) *
• Big West Conference
• Colonial Athletic Association (CAA)
• Conference USA (C-USA) #
• Great West Conference
• Horizon League
• NCAA Independents
• Ivy League
• Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference (MAAC)
• Mid-American Conference (MAC) #
• Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference (MEAC)
• Missouri Valley Conference (MVC or The Valley)
• Mountain Pacific Sports Federation (MPSF)
• Mountain West Conference (MW or MWC) #
• Northeast Conference (NEC)
• Ohio Valley Conference (OVC)
• Pacific-12 Conference (Pac-12)*
• Patriot League
• Southeastern Conference (SEC)*
• Southern Conference (SoCon)
• Southland Conference
• Southwestern Athletic Conference (SWAC)
• The Summit League (The Summit)
• Sun Belt Conference (SBC) #
• West Coast Conference (WCC)
• Western Athletic Conference (WAC) #
• Missouri Valley Football Conference
• Pioneer Football League


• Mid-American Conference (MAC) #
• Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference (MEAC)
• Missouri Valley Conference (MVC or The Valley)
• Mountain Pacific Sports Federation (MPSF)
• Mountain West Conference (MW or MWC) #
• Northeast Conference (NEC)
• Ohio Valley Conference (OVC)
• Pacific-12 Conference (Pac-12)*
• Patriot League
• Southeastern Conference (SEC)*
• Southern Conference (SoCon)
• Southland Conference
• Southwestern Athletic Conference (SWAC)
• The Summit League (The Summit)
• Sun Belt Conference (SBC) #
• West Coast Conference (WCC)
• Western Athletic Conference (WAC) #

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Very good analysis...


Feb 13, 2013, 12:41 PM

Also, pretty much what Nick Saban was proposing back during the season, if you recall. It kinda sounds like the College Football Association, Part II.

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Re: Very good analysis...


Feb 13, 2013, 12:54 PM

> Also, pretty much what Nick Saban was proposing back
> during the season, if you recall. It kinda sounds
> like the College Football Association, Part II.

Thanks, I wish that I had pointed out that all the concern about who goes to the Big 12, Who goes to the SEC, Big 10 and etc is not the big concern. All this realignment is just an interim step. Schools that want to compete just need to be sure that they are not left in the shambles when the 4 super conferences emerge.

The new super League will have a common interest in balancing power and money after the break from the NCAA.

Being in any one of the four super conferences is a ticket to the league. The only real question is will the 4th conference be the ACC or the Big12. Big 10 and SEC are a lock.

Many believe that the the Big 10 holds the cards to "make or break" the ACC.

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A couple errors


Feb 13, 2013, 2:26 PM

1. NCAA voting is done by conference, not school.

2. As of the end of this past football season the WAC ceased to be a member of the FBS as it no longer sponsors football.

3. At the end of the 2013-14 season the BCS ends, and with it the Big East's automatic bid. At that point they become part of a shared bid pool with the MWC, Conf USA, MAC, and Sun Belt, commonly known as the "Gang of Five".

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Re: A couple errors


Feb 13, 2013, 4:56 PM

comments in line.
> 1. NCAA voting is done by conference, not school.
****My understanding is that the SEC has 14 votes at this time, Big12 has 10 , and etc.
>
> 2. As of the end of this past football season the
> e WAC ceased to be a member of the FBS as it no
> longer sponsors football. ****correct those schools that went elswhere took their vote with them is my understanding
>
> 3. At the end of the 2013-14 season the BCS ends,
> , and with it the Big East's automatic bid. At that
> point they become part of a shared bid pool with the
> MWC, Conf USA, MAC, and Sun Belt, commonly known as
> the "Gang of Five".
*****The shared pool is not going to happen. Those guys will find homes in the big 4 conferences, or they will stay in the NCAA.

The top 60-70 schools will break from the NCAA completely. Those "gang of 5, and other left out schools" will be on the outside looking in.

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Re: A couple errors


Feb 13, 2013, 6:38 PM

"****My understanding is that the SEC has 14 votes at this time, Big12 has 10 , and etc. "

No. The SEC has one vote just like the Big XII, B1G, PAC12, ACC, etc. The vote is not by school, but by conference.

"****correct those schools that went elswhere took their vote with them is my understanding "

No. As stated above NCAA governance is by conference, not school, so they "didn't take their vote" anywhere.

"*****The shared pool is not going to happen. Those guys will find homes in the big 4 conferences, or they will stay in the NCAA.

The top 60-70 schools will break from the NCAA completely. Those "gang of 5, and other left out schools" will be on the outside looking in.
"
If that happens then they will be left outside, but at this point there most assuredly is a shared pool among the "Gang of Five" (Big East, CUSA, MWC, MAC, and Sun Belt) that shares a bid for the highest rated champion in one of the access bowls.

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Feb 13, 2013, 3:21 PM

Im pretty sure a bunch of those "Conferences" are basketball only.

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Re: Ostrich Update:


Feb 13, 2013, 3:22 PM

Here are all the D1 conferences...

http://imgur.com/a/Q7UPn

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kaploney, if i am reading your comments correctly,


Feb 13, 2013, 7:54 PM

So the sec and the sunbelt get one vote each....and you do not see the issue?

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It actually benefits the SEC (and others) that way.


Feb 13, 2013, 8:11 PM

Because if each school got a vote we would be held hostage by the decisions of schools like USC-Upstate, Mercer, and Utah Valley State. Remember, the power conferences only hold the numerical advantage in football. In every other sport we are the minority by a large margin.

Men's Basketball - 347 schools
Women's Basketball - 345 schools
Baseball - 297 schools

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Re: It actually benefits the SEC (and others) that way.


Feb 13, 2013, 9:35 PM

You are making my point. You can not be "held hostage" if you are not in the same "voting league".

I don't pretend to have sources, and I certainly don't think that I have a crystal ball...but would you want the families that live in the neighborhood without paying their mortgage to control your budget and activities?

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