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Associate AD [813]
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So far, I'm not feeling good about the progression
Aug 10, 2016, 7:05 AM
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Of the D. Other than they have chemistry, I keep hearing they are getting beat. With exception of a few players who have stood out. Please someone tell me they will be ok. I really want us ready for Auburn. I'm kinda worried.
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110%er [6662]
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Re: So far, I'm not feeling good about the progression
Aug 10, 2016, 7:09 AM
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Tiger pulse of 46% for a reason.
How is the progression of your coot defense without Skai? 
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Associate AD [813]
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Re: So far, I'm not feeling good about the progression
Aug 10, 2016, 7:14 AM
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Oh I forgot, some of you are incapable of talking about anything that isn't sunshine and rainbows 24/7.
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110%er [6662]
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Re: So far, I'm not feeling good about the progression
Aug 10, 2016, 7:16 AM
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You just confirmed my statement. No biggie, we dont ban coots like FGF, we just tolerate them.
Youd get more football talk out of the people if you guys actually admitted you are usc fans instead of coming over
in disguise.
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Associate AD [813]
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Re: So far, I'm not feeling good about the progression
Aug 10, 2016, 7:28 AM
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You guys keep saying that. The real funny part of that is this all started because of one or two trolls on here and the rest of you followed like little children. I'm as big a Clemson fan as there is and yet you guys have been repeatedly insulting for no reason other than your own ignorance. It's like a bunch of virtual bullies hiding behind there little computers. And half of you claim to have a college degree which is quite funny.
Most times I just ignore you because obviously some of you are just here troll and only seem to live to try and make others miserable. I assume it's because your own lives are that bad. As far as my pulse, some of you are so sad that u spend all your days thumbs downing every post I've ever made regardless of content, which makes the pulse worthless. And you do it to others as well.
Hate to break it to you but I'm hardly the problem here and most intelligent people know it.
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Clemson Icon [27753]
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Re: So far, I'm not feeling good about the progression
Aug 10, 2016, 7:51 AM
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And yet you hide behind a user name. If you are a fan let us know who you really are. Bet you will never do that!
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110%er [6662]
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Re: So far, I'm not feeling good about the progression
Aug 10, 2016, 9:13 AM
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If you're going to attack others about their college degrees, you probably need to spell correctly.
It is their, not there. It is you, not u.
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Dynasty Maker [3354]
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Oculus Spirit [42276]
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+1 for admitting your a tiger fan, the first step
Aug 10, 2016, 11:29 AM
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I understand being a little worried about the Defense. They are our biggest concern. However I think that with experience on the line, some experience at lb and in the backfield (not enough), and with some freak athletes on our roster, I think we'll be ok. We will rely on our offense to score a lot of points. Especially in the first half of the season. However, I think bv has done an amazing job in the last few years and I feel confident that daily practicing against arguably the best offense in the country and game time exposure, we will be a top 20 and hopefully top 10 defense by the conf championship. I do think again that we need offense to score a lot of points against ga tech, fsu, Louisville, and perhaps auburn to win. I think end of season our defense will be good enough gobbled win even tighter games. IMO
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Orange Blooded [4378]
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Re: So far, I'm not feeling good about the progression
Aug 10, 2016, 12:29 PM
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You aren't being called a coot because one or two trolls started doing it for no reason. You get called a coot because of the content of your posts, which are all obviously trying to get a reaction from your rival school. Do you honestly think you hide it well?
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Dynasty Maker [3438]
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Re: So far, I'm not feeling good about the progression
Aug 10, 2016, 12:38 PM
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No, it started because we were in the middle of our best season in 35 years (possibly ever) and all you did was make negative posts and it pissed most people off. You are very annoying and many people have told you this. It's obvious that nobody wants to have a conversation with you, we don't like you. Not everything has to be sunshine and rainbows, there are plenty of people that post stuff for discussion. 90% of your posts are negative #### or thinly veiled back handed complimentents. People have already told you that they don't want to discuss anything with you, the fact that you haven't started over with a new name shows that you either enjoy being called a coot, or are truly a coot troll.
If you are not a coot then you are truly one of the worst Clemson fans I've ever come across. If you couldn't be happy with the team last season and are still "worried" about #### when we are ranked #2 then there is no hope for you. To be honest I don't know how you didn't just jump off a building years ago because you don't seem capable of joy.
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110%er [5249]
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Re: So far, I'm not feeling good about the progression
Aug 10, 2016, 1:07 PM
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"The real funny part of that is this all started because of one or two trolls on here" - No, you have a history of these 'woe is us' posts. You have zero confidence in the school you claim to support
"Most times I just ignore you because obviously some of you are just here troll" - You have yet to respond to anyone else in the thread who gave you a reasonable answer, which leans toward your true intent is meant to provoke.
"some of you are so sad that u spend all your days thumbs downing every post I've ever made regardless of content" - Only donors can TD, and I doubt they spend that money waiting for you to make a new post.
"Hate to break it to you but I'm hardly the problem here" - I know actual Clemson fans that are dumpers that get TD'd less than you, because they show their support. You don't show any, beyond 'Oh no, the defense isn't winning! We're doomed! I'm scared!'
when you know that if the defense was winning, you'd insist the offense has taken a step back and our Oline isn't as good as being reported.
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Scout Team [196]
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It's early, so....
Aug 10, 2016, 7:15 AM
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I'll just chalk your comments up to not enough coffee, yet. As far as the defense, with the talent we have, experience is all that's missing and we won't need that until the Louisville game(@home). You go get a "Big Gulp" of Java, maybe it'll help your thinking.
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Clemson Icon [27753]
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Is it surprising
Aug 10, 2016, 7:57 AM
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That even the Clemson D has a hard time stopping No. 4 and his group of skill guys!?
Practicing against Watson every day will help the defense improve as the year goes on.
I'm guessing that the Auburn offense will be a little less effective than the real Tigers
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All-TigerNet [6061]
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Repeat after me - very slowly:
Aug 10, 2016, 7:16 AM
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The best offense college football has ever seen.
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110%er [6662]
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Re: Repeat after me - very slowly:
Aug 10, 2016, 7:18 AM
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Columbiatiger couldnt have said it any better. Clemson has the most explosive offense in college football. Anyone who doesnt expect even OUR defense to get burned by them doesnt have a clue.
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Re: Repeat after me - very slowly:
Aug 10, 2016, 7:25 AM
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if you, eyeofthetiger, knew all of that then why is he concerned about our D? I think our D just needs experience. they're talented and will "gel" soon enough.
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Walk-On [141]
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Re: Repeat after me - very slowly:
Aug 10, 2016, 7:55 AM
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This just makes me smile so much. We have the potential to score almost every time we get the ball. There isn't a single player on our offense that shouldn't at least get a good shot in the NFL. I'm so excited.
SPOT THE #### BALL!!
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Boy....you sure do scare easy. .
Aug 10, 2016, 7:21 AM
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If a contest of football worries you, You better never watch the original shinning.
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Orange Blooded [2783]
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BV hasn't been happy with the D in camp.... ever
Aug 10, 2016, 7:23 AM
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he was the same way the last two or three years. The other team is going to make plays, and most of us don't get to see the other 1hr59min of practice.
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All-TigerNet [6061]
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Re: BV hasn't been happy with the D in camp.... ever
Aug 10, 2016, 7:30 AM
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Brent's just trying to catch up to the offense. Usually the early returns in Fall camp favor the defense because the offense has to work on blocking angles and timing. This year is different. The offense is on "go" and ready. As good as the defense is - and the front 7 is very good, with a secondary that will grow into good - the offense is just that much better.
This is the season we've all waited to see.
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Dynasty Maker [3354]
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Re: BV hasn't been happy with the D in camp.... ever
Aug 10, 2016, 10:49 AM
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+1
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National Champion [7253]
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Re: So far, I'm not feeling good about the progression
Aug 10, 2016, 7:25 AM
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We will be fine. We probably had a blitz call with the safties in the box on the 99 yard run and the O made a block and maybe a missed tackle or somebody over ran the ball. We have always given up big plays sometimes. Tho that 2014 D was pretty consistent. I think we will be just as good as last year of not a little better. The only spot I'm worried at all about is at CB but I think Mullen could hold it down. We will be okay. Yes Auburn will score some but they will be forced in some 3 and outs and some big TFLs and sacks along with a couple of TOs. 38-21 if it is even that close.
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TigerNet Icon [152623]
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Re: So far, I'm not feeling good about the progression***
Aug 10, 2016, 7:31 AM
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Rival Killer [2833]
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Re: So far, I'm not feeling good about the progression***
Aug 10, 2016, 3:21 PM
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ROFL....my side hurts from laughing so hard!
POTD!!
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Team Captain [489]
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I would also consider they are going against the best
Aug 10, 2016, 7:44 AM
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1. offensive line in America
2. WR group in America
3. collection of RBs in America
4....and #4
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110%er [6662]
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Re: I would also consider they are going against the best
Aug 10, 2016, 8:05 AM
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The OP is trying to play the sky is falling, and thats what coots do for the most part. Their ship is continuing to sink and their attempt to spread ANY type of negativity gets met with a wall and they dont like it. eyeofthetiger is LONG known as being a coot. He can cry TIGER all he wants to but too many times, he has been caught. We understand they have nothing to cheer for during football season. Im willing to bet they sit in their chairs on Saturdays watching Clemson games and cheering for the other team to beat them. Who wants to watch their disaster?
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Oculus Spirit [40321]
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dont worry Muschump will boost up with some
Aug 10, 2016, 8:14 AM
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Paw Master [16363]
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Re: dont worry Muschump will boost up with some
Aug 10, 2016, 8:28 AM
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FWIW, I'm worried about our D too.
We did not play great D last year, giving up 45 to Bama, 37 to UNC, 32 to South Carolina and 27 to Sryacuse. That's giving up too many points. We lost some good players on D from last year and we are calling on some new guys to be major contributors. So I'm worried about out Defense too.
Yaknow if you bask in the glow of last years 14-1 record and National Title Game finish, you can get really warm and fuzzy about our Tigers. If you go back and look at each of the games from last year, you can see ways we could have lost last year and can lose this year.
So I'm worried about the D too. And I am over the top concerned about our return kicking game; we were one of the worst teams in the country at that. As BV says we stunk that up last year.
Over a third of our pre Auburn practices are over. We must get better and do it quickly or we'll make those guys without a lake feel too good about themselves.
Nervous Nellie
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TigerNet Icon [152623]
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We only gave up too many points to one team last season.
Aug 10, 2016, 8:37 AM
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HTH you feel better.
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Top TigerNet [32905]
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Re: LOL, "D not progressing" says the coot, hahahahaha***
Aug 10, 2016, 8:32 AM
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Tell em, coot!
Aug 10, 2016, 8:35 AM
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63-17!!!
23-22!!!
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Don't Forget 45-0, and Nobowla....***
Aug 10, 2016, 1:34 PM
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Orange Blooded [2423]
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Re: So far, I'm not feeling good about the progression
Aug 10, 2016, 8:44 AM
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I feel like it is a combination of some inexperience on defense and our offense being really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really good.
Whatever problems the defense have, they will have great practice and film to learn from going against our first team offense.
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Paw Master [16994]
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Re: So far, I'm not feeling good about the progression
Aug 10, 2016, 9:04 AM
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They will be okay. Alabama didn't contain our offense last year much either, and we are better now than then.
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All-TigerNet [14233]
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I'll let Dabo know about your concerns.***
Aug 10, 2016, 9:14 AM
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Tiger Titan [49905]
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The problem isn't the doubt, but the presentation...
Aug 10, 2016, 9:26 AM
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After the number of defenders we've sent to the NFL the past couple of years, it would indeed be Pollyanic to assume we'd be able to just step right back up. And given our offense could well be one of the best in ACC, let alone Clemson history, it stands to reason the word from fall practice is one of "things take time."
I'd suggest a more specific area of question/concern, rather than a general sense of "we're doomed!" What specifically worries you? Personnel? It shouldn't ... this defense is loaded with guys who are going to make life miserable for opponents for the next few years.
Try to give folks specifics to reply to rather than generalities, and they'll be able to reply specifically, rather than a general TD ... and general comments about wearing feathers.
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TigerNet Icon [152623]
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Agree, however, in this case I have a feeling the OP was
Aug 10, 2016, 9:37 AM
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worded carefully, for maximum effect.
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Tiger Titan [49905]
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Could be ... just giving the benefit of the doubter.***
Aug 10, 2016, 9:40 AM
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TigerNet Icon [152623]
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Nothing wrong with that.
Aug 10, 2016, 10:00 AM
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Have a good one Rev.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [101551]
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A few days ago, somebody asked where all the dumpers had
Aug 10, 2016, 9:40 AM
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gone.
Well, we just found Lead Dumper.
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110%er [7719]
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Re: So far, I'm not feeling good about the progression
Aug 10, 2016, 9:52 AM
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So sad OP is still trying to keep up this charade.
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Top TigerNet [32714]
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cocklovers
Aug 10, 2016, 9:55 AM
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have no self esteem or self respect so they make it up as they go along. idiots
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Orange Blooded [3311]
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Let's break down your post so you can understand why...
Aug 10, 2016, 10:12 AM
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everyone thinks you are a Coot McCootpants.
Mistake #1: "So far, I'm not feeling good about the progression of the D." - This indicates you have insider information and that you are at the practices, watching them fail, all with ZERO proof you have more information that anyone else on the boards. Everything I personally have seen on the defensive side of the ball has been encouraging. Brent Venables, when talking about the defense, seems to be pushing back a smile as to not seem overly excited about how they are progressing and here you are saying you are NOT feeling good?
Mistake #2: "I really want us ready for Auburn. I'm kinda worried." - This statement is absolutely ridiculous. You are basically saying the Auburn team that has QB issues, lost their starting running back, lost their starting Wide Receiver, and went 7-6 last season with a bowl win is going to give our defense a tougher test than what they practice against daily. This statement is either COMPLETELY IGNORANT of what Clemson has on the offensive side of the ball or it is a direct attempt at trying to rile up your rivals on their internet boards. Either way, not smart to post about it if you want people to take you seriously as a REAL CLEMSON FAN.
Mistake #3: You are an obvious reincarnation of babaganoush.
This being your second or third attempt at an account, I would just hang it up. You sir are failing miserably at this whole forum thing.
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110%er [7719]
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Re: Let's break down your post so you can understand why...
Aug 10, 2016, 10:47 AM
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yep 100% bagadouche
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Dynasty Maker [3354]
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ha +1
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Paw Warrior [4812]
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Re: So far, I'm not feeling good about the progression
Aug 10, 2016, 10:52 AM
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They have to defend the best offense in the country everyday in practice. Once the season starts they won't see an offense close to what they go against now.
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Ring of Honor [22911]
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Deer babagadoosh
Aug 10, 2016, 11:02 AM
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Are you still concerned about the "real" depth charts??
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [101551]
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Huh? You sound like someone who has
Aug 10, 2016, 11:04 AM
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Orange Phenom [14752]
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Re: So far, I'm not feeling good about the progression
Aug 10, 2016, 11:33 AM
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If you are serious in your question, I'll give you some reasons not to worry...
1) The defense is playing against the best QB, the best WR group, arguably the best RB group and the best overall total offense in the nation - why would you not expect the defense to struggle a bit against this offense? Remember - this is basically the same offense that torched the best college defense ever fielded (according to the media) for 450+ yards in the National Championship game.
2) The defense has a lot of talent, but they are young. If you expect them to light up our experienced offense six days into fall camp then I'll have some of what you are smoking.
3) Our defense will be better than good by the Auburn game - they will be great. Steel sharpens steel and practicing against our offense will result in our defense being one of the best in the country. Remember how Mitch Hyatt struggled in pre-season practice against Shaq Lawson. Hyatt gradually got better and by the end of camp was holding his own against Lawson. Hyatt had the talent but it was Lawson's "steel" in practice that got Hyatt to the level of play that made him a Freshman All American.
4) Venables is a very good, if not the best, defensive coordinator and will put a good product on the field. Have a little faith - we are only six days into camp with a good mix of youth and talent on defense. If Venables has proven anything - he will have these boys ready to go by September 3.
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Paw Warrior [4697]
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Re: So far, I'm not feeling good about the progression
Aug 10, 2016, 12:00 PM
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You need to call a doctor and get your heart checked.
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Aug 10, 2016, 12:23 PM
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I'm feeling the same way, EyeoftheTiger. This has been my biggest concern coming in the season. All I can think about is OJ Howard for Alabama exploiting our secondary for over 200 yards, time and time again. I think Tankersley can get it done, but I've never even heard of the other guys.
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Scout Team [196]
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Re: So far, I'm not feeling good about the progression
Aug 10, 2016, 12:46 PM
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I think we will be fine. Plenty of talent + venables. Don't have to be perfect with our offense, but its natural to be nervous about the opener in Auburn. I feel good about our chances. But it's the first game, In a hostile environment, Against a talented team. Can't get too comfortable.
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Campus Hero [13749]
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Don't worry about the progression of your D....
Aug 10, 2016, 12:50 PM
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It will grow eventually.
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Orange Blooded [2841]
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Re: So far, I'm not feeling good about the progression
Aug 10, 2016, 12:55 PM
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What is that based on? Have you been at practices or are you just going based on practice reports and your own assumptions? 4 and 5 star talent everywhere and the best defensive coordinator in college football on the sideline... worst case scenario we are an average defense, but with Deshaun and company on offense all they'll need to do is give up less than 40 a game and we win 10 games no problem.
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Oculus Spirit [39224]
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Of course they're getting beat.
Aug 10, 2016, 1:13 PM
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There isn't a defense in the country that would be 'ahead' of this offense at this point in camp. Too much experienced depth and talent.
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Have no fear. Our D will stiffen up!
Aug 10, 2016, 3:04 PM
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Look, it's like this. I voiced a somewhat similar sorta kinda concern the other day, but let's just say worded much differently. Defense USUALLY gets ready faster than offenses BUT, in this case, our offensive team has played together for 2 seasons for most part, and a lot of new pieces in the Defense.
I would also state that as good as the Defense was in 14, and 15 at times, this year's team has MUCH more talent. More speed, more length, everything is upside. And last I checked, a pretty good crew coaching them up. I think long term we will be fine. I will admit this however. As awesome as our O is, the thought of having CDS come out one day after practice, and say that the Defense smothered the O at practice today would give me a bit of the fantasy feels!
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Rival Killer [2833]
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Re: So far, I'm not feeling good about the progression
Aug 10, 2016, 3:18 PM
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Dude...you are hilarious! Non of your efforts at trolling can change 3-9! ROFL
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