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Can you imagine winning your conference 8 times...
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and the national championship twice, and still having to take time out of your day to mansplain a slogan because 1.5% of fans don’t get it?
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I'm not a real or true fan as I graduated from W & L...
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but because my education was not wasted on me, nor yours on you for that matter, I get it.
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CU Medallion [65529]
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You DO seem to be a Liberal Artist. Gradding from W&L
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'splains a whole lot and a half.
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If by that you mean brilliant, then yes, and thank you...
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for your earnest, kind words.
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Haha, yes that's it.***
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I believe a lot of coaches would love to put that on their
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resume', 8 conference championships, 2 national championships.
Also, several millions of other fans would love to be sailing on the same boat.
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Heisman Winner [108390]
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Of course they would, but 1pt5ers will say Dabo is ~fat,...
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doesn't care, overpaid with less accountability, resting on his laurels, more interested in friends than foes, just biding his time until the statue, cares more about tatas than Tigers, used to have a fire, but quenched it when he moved to the big house on the pond, spends too much time explaining to the stupids and not enough... oh, wait.
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CU Medallion [64593]
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Some people just aren't happy...
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unless they're b!tching and moaning about something.
These same people complained even when the team was 15 - 0 and won a national championship because we only beat A&M by 2, or Syracuse by 4, or the defense allowed the Coots to score first in the rivalry game (the only first quarter TD allowed by the defense all season).
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Re: Some people just aren't happy...
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I am still mad about that!
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Re: Of course they would, but 1pt5ers will say Dabo is ~fat,...
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Are they the same ones who get on here every game day and complain about Shipley? He shouldn’t be playing. They should bench him. He isn’t fast enough. He shouldn’t show emotion on the field. Or are they the ones who get on here and make fun of Wes every game day? Give up 14 points in a game and he is horrible. He was a buddy hire. He should be a tee ball coach.
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Re: Of course they would, but 1pt5ers will say Dabo is ~fat,...
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I suppose I fit that definition. I don't like paying for Dabo's enormous salary while he hires his unqualified friends, plays his sons (who probably wouldn't play at Furman), and gives scholarships to those sons and their friends. I have always said Shipley needs to be on the field and is a great athlete, but I definitely complain about some of his antics. He's not as good as Mafah. And showing emotion on the field is different from screaming at coaches and throwing your line under the bus. He's not an elite enough athlete to behave the way he does.
I don't fit the last definition. I think Goodwin has flaws, but of the friends and family plan, he's one of the better hires and I'm happy with our defense for the most part (outside of fundamentals, but that's more on positional coaches than Goodwin).
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That "overpaid" argument is why I am glad Brad Brownell
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doesn't make any more than he does. I would hate to have to add THAT to the multitude of things against him, even though some would say he is ALREADY overpaid. Only Judge Keller, and maybe his wife, want to give him a raise. And, those two might be looking at that exactly the same way, who knows.
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He's already being grossly over-paid!***
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Keeping his job is the equivalence of a raise.***
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Re: Can you imagine winning your conference 8 times...
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Why are we having to imagine this?
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IMAGINE?
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We're living it, Samone!
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Are you being an aggressive, knuckle-dragger again?***
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Oculus Spirit [93676]
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That's an obvious error.
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I've always been an aggressive...
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CU Medallion [64593]
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Pffft...as if something like that would ever happen!***
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Can you imagine trashing that coach and then
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defending the coach of another program who hasn’t won half of his conference games?
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Re: Can you imagine trashing that coach and then
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Its easy if you try.***
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Kmart, Toys are Us, Sears, Blockbuster
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All used to be at the top of their game.
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LOL
Oct 19, 2023, 10:25 AM
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Heisman Winner [140588]
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If only someone had complained on a message board...
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about it, relentlessly, every single day, telling the higher brass they have gotten fat and lazy and the retail game has passed them by, and what they need to do to get back to the top, maybe K Mart would still be around.
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Legend [18792]
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Yeah, what 's the point, right?
Oct 19, 2023, 11:40 AM
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Yet here WE are.
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Heisman Winner [140588]
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Well...
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Oct 19, 2023, 11:42 AM
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Here one of us is, anyway. Don't forget, I'm in the 98.5%.
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I can't tell if you're kidding or not. But I do have one...
Oct 19, 2023, 12:03 PM
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..question.
Putting the issue of being a 1.5% or 98.5%er aside for one second, you do understand that we're on the same side here, right?
We will both not be rooting are tails off for a win this Sat????
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LOL
Oct 19, 2023, 12:40 PM
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FNO
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Satisfied.***
Oct 19, 2023, 2:27 PM
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Thats your word
Oct 19, 2023, 2:42 PM
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not Dabo’s.
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Legend [18792]
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I meant I was satisfied with your response.***
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I know, its hard to believe someone so successful would
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worry so much about what a few people might think.
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All-TigerNet [10360]
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especially after Dabo has said..........
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We don't pay attention to "outside noise"...............maybe he/they do now...?..
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Re: I know, its hard to believe someone so successful would
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LOL....Dabo isn't "worried" about them....they want the attention so he's just giving them a little of what they want. He's not losing any sleep over it, however, it appears that they may be.
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He seems worried, or else he wouldnt periodically criticize portions of the fan base.***
Oct 19, 2023, 10:19 AM
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Orange Blooded [4267]
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Again, he just doesnt want them to feel left out,
Oct 20, 2023, 7:57 AM
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and it appears to be working.
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Just because he pointed it out...
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certainly doesn't mean that he's worried about it.
In fact, I'm betting Dabo couldn't care any less what the 1.5 percenters say or think, but maybe that's just me.
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He called them "deplorables" and it hurt their feelings***
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Re: Just because he pointed it out...
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He pretty much invited them to hit the road, so I’d say he probably doesn’t care much about what they think.
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Re: I know, its hard to believe someone so successful would
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He used to impose a social media ban to insulate the players from this noise. That is not practical in this era of NIL etc. so he is dealing with those issues differently. I know this is hard for those of you that spew the narrative that Dabo cannot adapt to change but that is exactly what he is doing here.
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The team imposed it, not Dabo, but he lauded the practice.***
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Well ... best is the standard.
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And standards are meant to be met.
That's why they call them standards. They are standard.
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Re: Can you imagine winning your conference 8 times...
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Dabo did win 2 national championships and 8 conference titles. He's also the second highest paid CFB coach. There are high expectations that come with that salary, he's not volunteering for this job.
The question is, what changed? Why are we not competing for playoffs and national championships anymore? Of course, we all know why, but some people don't like to talk about it.
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And some people don't know how to talk about it.***
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Re: And some people don't know how to talk about it.***
Oct 19, 2023, 10:14 AM
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And in your case, neither.
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Heisman Winner [140588]
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That's why one of the top coaches in all of college football
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said I was "Amazing"?
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All-TigerNet [10360]
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based on the criteria of being a 1.5%er......
Oct 19, 2023, 10:35 AM
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He called me amazing as well!......shocker.
reading quotes by Dabo and seeing what "qualifies" 98.5%er vs 1.5% here on Tnet it seems pretty clear I'm a 98.5%er.
-I don't want him fired
-I'm at every home game doing my part to be a "part of the solution"
-The problems I've seen with Clemson Football.......I haven't been "a part of"
I would like for someone to create a survey/form to fill out so there's more clarity of where the line b/w 98.5% and 1.5% is drawn.
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Heisman Winner [140588]
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For someone who isn't a 1.5%er...
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you sure do spend a lot of time explaining to others why you are not a 1.5%er.
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Shes a fraud***
Oct 19, 2023, 1:04 PM
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oh Stanley.....speaking of fraud.....
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tell us the story of your pulse meanie.
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You just keep failing every single time.
Oct 19, 2023, 5:56 PM
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You’re a child. A goofy schizophrenic child at that.
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You typed a whole lot...
Oct 19, 2023, 1:31 PM
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for someone who doesn't care.
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I don't care which "group" i'm in.....just want to know the criteria........
Oct 19, 2023, 1:46 PM
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lots of varying criteria being thrown around, just looking for clarity.
can you provide 98.5%er or 1.5%er criteria?
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That's like you saying "I want to be attractive like you...
Oct 19, 2023, 1:50 PM
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How do I do that?"
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nope, just a simple question that you apparently can't answer.
Oct 19, 2023, 1:56 PM
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Do 1.5ers want Dabo fired?
Do 98.5ers "NEVER" question Dabo?
What exactly do 1.5ers that create the "problems" that have plagued Clemson football
vice versa what exactly do 98.5ers do that have provided solutions to the problems that have plagued Clemson football??
if you don't know, you don't know........again, just looking for criteria and parameters.
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Why do you need criteria if you don't care which side you are on...
Oct 19, 2023, 2:01 PM
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And why are you asking me to define Dabo's criteria? I'm in dude, I don't have to do any of this extra work. My advice would be to emulate me, or any of the other 98.5%ers.
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and "you're in" because???.....
Oct 19, 2023, 2:05 PM
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you never question Dabo?
you go to every home game and support the team?
surely you can answer those questions........it'd be a start.
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If this is you not caring
Oct 19, 2023, 2:11 PM
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I’d hate to see how annoying you are regarding something you do care about. Wait, annoying? We might have our first clue. All fans who are annoying are not 1.5%ers, but all 1.5%ers are annoying. Let’s test that theory…
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annoying is in the eye of the beholder......I'm asking a question.......
Oct 19, 2023, 2:25 PM
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that you can't answer.......just say you don't know.
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My mom broke me of that when I was 1...
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it's a shame Dabo is having to break others.
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Clearly your mom loved you; take from that what you will.***
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Re: Can you imagine winning your conference 8 times...
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One of the biggest changes is the expectations of the fans. I remember standing on the field with my daughter, who was the Tiger Cub mascot at the time, after beating FSU in 2015 and shouting “We’re going to Charlotte!” The joy for both of us was immense because we had not experienced that in quite some time. Now that is expected and there is no great joy in it when it happens, but there is bitter disappointment if it doesn’t happen. We have been spoiled by our success. Plain and simple.
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There are a few months of the year where I can't
Oct 19, 2023, 10:04 AM
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imagine even winning it once.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Sure.
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Oct 19, 2023, 10:06 AM
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As a 1.5er I feel his pain given mansplaining things like "$100M HC's need to at least be able beat the Dukes of the world" to the 98.5ers is equally as frustrating.
(Except we're not pulling down $230,000/week for the trouble.)
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Heisman Winner [140588]
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Ahh...
Oct 19, 2023, 10:09 AM
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"the games are played on paper" fan. And your dissatisfaction with your income is a you issue. Become good at something, besides complaining, get paid.
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Oculus Spirit [93676]
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He could teach moaning and complaining for a living.
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Oct 19, 2023, 10:14 AM
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"Honey, you've upped your game!"
'Yep, CATI is my new biching coach and he's worth every penny of what it's costing you.'
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Rock Defender [54]
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I mean, I guess?
Oct 19, 2023, 11:06 AM
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Sure I'd like to make a few more bucks a year. Wouldn't we all? (Not Dabo, probably. But the rest of us.)
Maybe I'm missing some deep, esoteric point or your writing lacks clarity, but, I've always scoffed at the "winnin' on paper" approach that so many of you embrace with such ferocity.
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Heisman Winner [140588]
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You can scoff if you'd like...
Oct 19, 2023, 11:30 AM
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but games aren't played there. Every. Single. Team. loses games they shouldn't. That's why you have to look at an entire body of work. Or don't, I don't care.
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Letterman [297]
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Re: Can you imagine winning your conference 8 times...
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Oct 19, 2023, 10:12 AM
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👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿🐅
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Orange Blooded [3227]
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Re: Can you imagine winning your conference 8 times...
Oct 19, 2023, 10:15 AM
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But what about the portal issue? On a serious note, he shouldnt have to explain a thing. Maybe in a couple years if things were the same. Not now.
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Re: Can you imagine winning your conference 8 times...
Oct 19, 2023, 10:33 AM
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I’m sure the 11 million big ones keeps poor ole Dabo
from hauling A Ss
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Heisman Winner [140588]
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That's projection.***
Oct 19, 2023, 10:35 AM
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Re: That's projection.***
Oct 19, 2023, 10:36 AM
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Maybe, maybe NOT
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Heisman Winner [140588]
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It is.***
Oct 19, 2023, 11:30 AM
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Re: That's projection.***
Oct 19, 2023, 10:45 AM
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You dang right I wish I made 11 million ,you don’t ?
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Heisman Winner [140588]
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So get busy doing something about it...
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Oct 19, 2023, 11:28 AM
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complaining about what others who already make that are doing isn't going to get you there.
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Orange Blooded [3369]
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Re: So get busy doing something about it...
Oct 19, 2023, 3:36 PM
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Where you see me complaining I just stated a fact
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Heisman Winner [140588]
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Orange Blooded [4306]
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It's just the ACC . like not SEC or B1G
Oct 19, 2023, 11:48 AM
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who do we actually play that was a legit conference ranked opp? Louisville almost a decade ago
itss been 3 seasons since a CFP appearance
and since pre covid by an entire year since a Natty appearance
the about to 3peat team plays 45 mins down the road
the fact that Clemson appears to be a shell of they use to be
and that Oklahoma looks like Clemsons defense it use to be ... well that's
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Orange Blooded [4306]
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cade and point
Oct 19, 2023, 11:49 AM
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this "98.5%" is a sales and marketing and control tactic
i know all y'all feel good to be the 98.5% die hards. it just means more
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Re: Can you imagine winning your conference 8 times...
Oct 19, 2023, 12:25 PM
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The truth is you don't have to explain anything if you don't bring it up. I wouldn't think he needs the aggravation right now so why even put it out there?
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110%er [5961]
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It is a lot of work, glad you have time for it
Oct 19, 2023, 1:35 PM
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it has to be exhausting
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Re: Can you imagine winning your conference 8 times...
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Oct 19, 2023, 1:59 PM
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Congratulations Francis Marion® for the post of the day!!! Simple and well stated. Great job my friend
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CU Guru [1476]
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Re: Can you imagine winning your conference 8 times...
Oct 19, 2023, 6:13 PM
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Wasn't there something about winning 10 games in a season, too?? Is that something that every coach does?? If a coach got a raise every time he did that, and he did it, oh, say, ten times in a row, wonder what his salary would be by now?!??! R/TLM
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Commissioner [909]
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Re: Can you imagine winning your conference 8 times...
Oct 19, 2023, 11:14 PM
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The only percentage I care about is 110.
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Re: Can you imagine winning your conference 8 times...
Oct 20, 2023, 10:07 AM
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I get it. 98.5%
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