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Ring of Honor [23974]
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30 Year Treasury crosses 5% and continues to rise
May 22, 2025, 12:17 PM
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Welp. Strap in boys.
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Re: 30 Year Treasury crosses 5% and continues to rise
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May 22, 2025, 12:18 PM
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Welp. Strap on boys.
FTFY
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Ring of Honor [23974]
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hahaha.***
May 22, 2025, 12:19 PM
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Paw Master [17358]
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Its the end of the world and Tnet knows it.***
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May 22, 2025, 12:24 PM
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Orange Phenom [14504]
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It is if you need to refi that balloon payment on your double wide***
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May 22, 2025, 12:56 PM
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [109013]
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Or buy a car. Or have a credit card or HELOC or......
May 22, 2025, 1:13 PM
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The conventional wisdom says you have inflation, which impacts the fed rates, which impacts interest rates and the cost of debt.
That is generally correct, HOWEVER, technically, it is always treasuries that drive debt service costs. They just usually align with inflation and fed rates. They are not currently.
Jerome Powell can lower rates to 2% tomorrow and treasuries will not budge. The housing market will then...not budge. Cars will remain expensive and payments high. Credit card debt will remain costly.
All of the rules we are taught are all predicated on a strong, and stable dollar and the faith in US debt. Just like a company, when everyone has faith in the product and potential, the demand rises for the stock and the stock price/market cap rise (quantified demand). Same with US treasuries and debt. As long as people have faith in the US dollar, and ability to pay debts, there will be demand for treasuries, and their yields will fall as demand rises. BUT, if people don't have faith in US debt, the demand falls, yields rise as investors in US debt demand a higher return on their risk, and debt becomes more expensive, public, governemnt and otherwise.
A debt/dollar crisis is something we have never faced before. This isn't bad mortgages, or bad car loans, or whatever else. This is ALL debt, and by extension, the US dollar. I haven't had faith in US debt for a very long time, as this road only leads to one endpoint. It's a when not if thing.
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Re: Or buy a car. Or have a credit card or HELOC or......
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May 22, 2025, 1:25 PM
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Good news is, we elected a businessman who is going to fix all of this, starting with the deficit. 😆 🤣 😂
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [109013]
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The best thing that America can do
May 22, 2025, 1:35 PM
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I don't care if it's the President, Congress, or some viral video clown from tiktok......WHOEVER......
The best thing anyone can do is FORCE term limits on Congress through a vote by the 50 states. It may well be too late, not sure. But it should have been done 20 years ago. 10 years ago. It will never be done, and we will decline, unless it is forced through Article V. Congress will never limit their terms in office, NEVER. This is bipartisan by the way. It's a human nature, democracy problem.
If AOC ran for President, and promised to do this (she never would), I'd vote for her every day of the week, and twice on Sunday. And you have Trump in a room with 50 governors, the PERFECT TIME to organize an Article V convention, and instead of mentioning anything along those lines, he takes the opportunity to ##### at the governor of Maine over kids sports.
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Asst Coach [873]
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Calm down man
May 22, 2025, 1:42 PM
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Don't take life so seriously. You won't live long enough to get to the end of it.
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Re: The best thing that America can do
May 22, 2025, 3:30 PM
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Congress is doing almost nothing right now. The executive is currently legislating via EO and and trying subvert the judiciary.
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Re: 30 Year Treasury crosses 5% and continues to rise
May 22, 2025, 12:25 PM
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Gee wonder why folks think debt, no matter if it tax breaks, defense foreign aid, kids lunch programs is no problem, we are gonna FAFO.
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Asst Coach [873]
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Now Im really scared
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May 22, 2025, 12:38 PM
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It's the end of the world, and PBT called Trump the anti Christ on another thread earlier. We're doomed! We need Al Gore to save us!
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Ring of Honor [23974]
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Context.
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May 22, 2025, 2:23 PM
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You really should learn to read. Wait, that's not really maga thing - education, reading, critical thinking. Ah, forget it then.
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Asst Coach [873]
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Re: Context.
May 22, 2025, 2:34 PM
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I did read it. I was in black and white. You commented on Sec. Hegseth leading a prayer breakfast. There's your context.
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Asst Coach [873]
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Prayer service, not breakfast*****
May 22, 2025, 2:37 PM
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Correction complete.
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Re: 30 Year Treasury crosses 5% and continues to rise
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May 22, 2025, 2:43 PM
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This is awesome news for my son med student starting in August with student loans
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Ring of Honor [23974]
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Mine were at 6% - insane.***
May 22, 2025, 2:45 PM
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Orange Phenom [14372]
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Re: 30 Year Treasury crosses 5% and continues to rise
May 22, 2025, 2:50 PM
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actually 8.05% but that ends June 30
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