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NOT trying to be critical, but it is frustrating to read
Dec 8, 2022, 10:11 AM
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comments from Coach Streeter about how "they saw it coming in practice", yet we kept CK2 on the shelf in favor of DJ5, when everybody saw how DJ5 played during games.
#22, Turner...."we saw it in practice".... yet we kept playing EJ Williams and kept #22 on the bench...
What did you see in practice from #6, I wonder?
Frustrating...
I believe, have we had Ck2 on the final drive again SC, he would've put us within field goal range for BT to seal that game.
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Re: NOT trying to be critical, but it is frustrating to read
Dec 8, 2022, 10:15 AM
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Re: NOT trying to be critical, but it is frustrating to read
Dec 8, 2022, 10:24 AM
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Heisman Winner [108390]
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? The staff said they were going to hold Cole to the last...
Dec 8, 2022, 10:18 AM
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four games, ensuring his RS.
During the time leading up, he'd benefit from Clemson's Nutrition, Strength & Conditioning programs. He needed it coming out of HS at 6'2", ~175?
Did you not know this?
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Re: ? The staff said they were going to hold Cole to the last...
Dec 8, 2022, 10:20 AM
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We all saw that Cade was the better QB in spring practice so no idea why it took until December to get him into a game with a realistic chance to play with the starters not on his own goal line.
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Letterman [274]
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Re: ? The staff said they were going to hold Cole to the last...
Dec 8, 2022, 10:22 AM
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So you went to spring practice each and every day and watched and came up with your conclusion?
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Orange Blooded [4775]
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Re: ? The staff said they were going to hold Cole to the last...
Dec 8, 2022, 10:59 AM
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Yes I did. Was there for every one.
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Freshman [-79]
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You're FOS.***
Dec 8, 2022, 11:41 AM
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Freshman [-79]
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You didn't see that in spring practice.
Dec 8, 2022, 11:38 AM
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You didn't see any spring practiced for that matter.
Cade was 11 for 22 and 98 yards, a TD and one terrible decision INT prior to UNC. He had 58 yds rushing as well.
At no point did you see Cade playing better than DJ previous to UNC.
Let it go.
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I'm sure it is, did you have to check your notes?***
Dec 8, 2022, 10:27 AM
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Just trying to figure your point in saying he was being held
Dec 8, 2022, 10:46 AM
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It wouldn't have kept him from being ran on to the field as he'd still be able to redshirt.
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Heisman Winner [108390]
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By asking me some, silly leading question? You've never...
Dec 8, 2022, 10:51 AM
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been bright enough to lead me anywhere.
In fact, you'll never convince me you're not just an angry, spoiled, petulant child, rolling around on the floor kicking and screaming.
It's not a good look, but it is yours.
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What's your deal seriously? You talk down to people
Dec 8, 2022, 11:03 AM
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constantly and when someone simply ask you a question to get at what your point is you get defensive? Maybe not talk down to people when your points are dull?
Had better expectations of you than what you've been showing lately. I thought the other day maybe was just you're taking what I said the wrong way. It's obvious now that you just want to spar no matter the topic.
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Heisman Winner [108390]
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Seriously? I was serious & you'll not convince me otherwise.
Dec 8, 2022, 11:21 AM
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And really, I thought you'd be quite comfortable with that as you've said nearly the same about Dabo.
You're led by anger, the frenzy, lashing out, judgement clouded by emotion as if drunk, and all based on relatively none of the information.
That sort of process is patently daft and not a good look.
You're Clemson and supposedly better than that, or so I'm told.
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Re: Seriously? I was serious & you'll not convince me otherwise.
Dec 8, 2022, 11:23 AM
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I don't remember ever disrespecting you like you did the OP and then me. But go off with your self-righteous rant....you've gotten good at them. Maybe you don't realize how snobbish you come off at times with your quips? Thought better of you...
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Heisman Winner [108390]
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Sorry, you've do too fine a job convincing me you're not
Dec 8, 2022, 11:28 AM
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remotely, who I once believed you might be.
Congrats on that, you've managed one heck of an argument to the contrary.
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If challenging your argument on Cole
Dec 8, 2022, 11:30 AM
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by pointing out the flaws in it does that for you then so be it. Wouldn't have taken you to be that fragile.
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You've made it perfectly clear the truth is not somewhere...
Dec 8, 2022, 11:35 AM
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you live.
I congratulated you on convincing me; kudos on that silver lining.
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Re: You've made it perfectly clear the truth is not somewhere...
Dec 8, 2022, 11:40 AM
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"Cole was being held to the last 4 games. Did you not know this?"
Cole Game log
Miami 1 rec
SC DNP
ACCCG 3rec
CFP/Bowl ?
Who exactly was not speaking the truth here?
No need to respond, it'll just keep going with no end. Toodaloo
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Heisman Winner [108390]
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Yes, there is no end to your pathos, which is a you issue.
Dec 8, 2022, 11:46 AM
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How many times do you need congratulations that you convinced me?
You've seemed childishly needy for ~weeks; I could put it in crayon or type slower?
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Now these are some good points with no flaws***
Dec 8, 2022, 11:33 AM
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Freshman [-79]
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There's a difference in an open receiver
Dec 8, 2022, 2:05 PM
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and a WR who blows off the top. If DJ could just chuck the ball down field to a wide open guy running full throttle it could have made a world of difference.
But i'd rather have an open receiver and a halfway decent QB. We didn't get either.
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Agree***
Dec 8, 2022, 11:03 AM
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Re: NOT trying to be critical, but it is frustrating to read
Dec 8, 2022, 10:18 AM
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The final drive against SC ended before it started with a fumbled punt so we’ll never know.
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Legend [19584]
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I think he means the drive where DJ threw the int***
Dec 8, 2022, 10:21 AM
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Re: NOT trying to be critical, but it is frustrating to read
Dec 8, 2022, 10:18 AM
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Re: NOT trying to be critical, but it is frustrating to read
Dec 8, 2022, 10:49 AM
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Our coaches have the problem where they can never admit they're wrong. We clearly could have beat South Carolina, but Dabo/Streeter did not want to look like they waffled with QB. Dabo is an "image coach" now, not a "W's coach". I'm happy to win 10 games, but it's denial to not be frustrated that we've willingly and deliberately decided to not win natty's. Hiring Streeter for OC without bringing in top 50 OCs to interview is a clear indication that Dabo is satisfied with his natty total. Time to coast and let his sons get some glory.
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Yup, you dumb***
Dec 8, 2022, 11:51 AM
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There were several "ifs" in the sackerliner game***
Dec 8, 2022, 10:58 AM
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SC game was WAY too late. We saw it in the GT game
Dec 8, 2022, 11:20 AM
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how much more effective the execution of the offense was with Cade, even though he was out there with all of the backups. Had he had meaningful time with the first string all year, he could have stepped in in the 2nd quarter of the ND game and we would have easily won.
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11 of 22 (50%) for 98 yds with a TD and a terrible INT.
Dec 8, 2022, 12:01 PM
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He also had a whopping ~ 60 yds rushing.
He was given a shot to take the job at ND (according to Dabo), but he immediately panicked and made a very poor decision on the INT. That's why he sat back down.
What did you see, exactly?
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"saw it coming in practice" = being developed.
Dec 8, 2022, 11:54 AM
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Same thing they said all along.
Cole is being redshirt.
We led the SC game until 10 minutes left. It was rhe 2nd to last possession when DJ missed an open guy and threw an INT. We weren't going to throw the true freshman out there with 1 or 2 possessions left.
I'd recommend letting go of your frustration now.
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Re: NOT trying to be critical, but it is frustrating to read
Dec 8, 2022, 12:09 PM
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Pretty sure that they were trying to maintain a redshirt year for Turner, this was his 4th game so max to keep that. Also, with only one year of high school football at his position don't you imagine he's got a lot to learn about the details? Sure appears he's got natural talent fo sho.
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I do so appreciate the way you framed your opinion.
Dec 8, 2022, 5:35 PM
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I have to agree that the process of swapping QBs was a mystery which I do not think anyone other than our coaches fully comprehended.
I will however point out that 'They saw it coming in practice,' vs 'Everybody saw it on the field,' suggest that they saw in practice that which had not yet come.
What we saw was DJ's failure on the field. We did not see practices where Cade had progress and therefor we were not able to make fair evaluations of the two during the week.
I agree that Cade should have started the Scar game. I agree that he was the better option to have been successful on that last drive. I believe if he had played in the Scar game the committee would have been influenced by our success to deem us worth for the Playoff.
I hate that it didn't happen like I wanted and hope we never see that happen again. I can grieve or I can take it with a gram of slaw and behave like an adult, maybe.
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Re: NOT trying to be critical, but it is frustrating to read
Dec 8, 2022, 5:45 PM
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so your belief is that we don't fumble if CJ2 is in... it was Dj's fault.
The season was frustrating for sure... and the woulda-shoulda-coulda is all we can do, which means nothing in the end. Cade's the guy let's go beat Tennessee and win the last game.
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