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Campus Hero [13336]
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Ultimate Tiger [37767]
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Most secure machines ever, ergo most secure election ever
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Nov 27, 2023, 8:53 AM
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I've been told here
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National Champion [7679]
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Re: Fun with election integrity
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Nov 27, 2023, 9:04 AM
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To question anything about the absolute accuracy of any US election is tantamount to taking a #### on the US flag. Well any election since 2020. Prior to that their accuracy was questioned on an almost constant basis. Wonder what changed.
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Hall of Famer [8130]
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You make a great case for mail in ballots***
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Nov 27, 2023, 9:06 AM
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Paw Master [17156]
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I know. Cause those arent fed into machines*****
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Nov 27, 2023, 9:49 AM
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Paw Warrior [4981]
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Re: You make a great case for mail in ballots***
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Nov 27, 2023, 9:49 AM
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Actually it’s a good case for show up in person, present your ID and fill out a paper ballot.
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Orange Elite [5246]
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Re: You make a great case for mail in ballots***
Nov 27, 2023, 10:05 AM
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How does that work in urban areas where millions of people are suppose to do that in a 12 hour window? What about those who have to work or are out of town on election day? If you're willing to allow the vote to happen over 2 week period, then maybe.
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Paw Warrior [4981]
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Re: You make a great case for mail in ballots***
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Nov 27, 2023, 10:26 AM
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I’m in favor of increasing the days to do it the in person old fashion way and eliminate the fraud. So yes. Well, reduce the fraud , it can’t be eliminated.
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Orange Elite [5246]
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Re: You make a great case for mail in ballots***
Nov 27, 2023, 10:33 AM
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How much fraud was uncovered in the Arizona audit? 😆
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Paw Warrior [4981]
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Re: You make a great case for mail in ballots***
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Nov 27, 2023, 10:45 AM
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Not having this conversation with you. But my answer is I don’t know. But common sense tells us our current mess opens the door for cheating. I want to make sure registered citizens and only citizens vote one time. Surely we all want that.
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Game Day Hero [4298]
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Re: You make a great case for mail in ballots***
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Nov 27, 2023, 11:03 AM
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Common sense…or years of orchestrated efforts to sow distrust in our institutions, election security, election workers, etc?
Our ‘mess’, as you put it, is not a lack of election integrity, it’s a lack of skepticism with regard to the information you are being spoon fed by bad actors through their band of useful idiots in the far right media.
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Clemson Icon [27824]
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No... and recent revelations having proven it.***
Nov 27, 2023, 11:09 AM
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Paw Warrior [4981]
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Game Day Hero [4298]
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Re: You make a great case for mail in ballots***
Nov 27, 2023, 12:54 PM
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And yet there are plenty of them out there…
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National Champion [7679]
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Nov 27, 2023, 12:19 PM
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And how much hand wringing were you doing in elections prior to 2020 whose integrity was constantly being questioned by leftists? If these "bad actors" to use your term didn't upset you perhaps you should look in the mirror to properly define what exactly a useful idiot looks like.
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Game Day Hero [4298]
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Re: You make a great case for mail in ballots***
Nov 27, 2023, 1:30 PM
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Well, since I’ve voted for both parties all up and down the ballot since I started voting in 1988, I would be alarmed at any significant evidence of fraud. I would take seriously any actual proof of material tampering/fraud from anyone in any election…and if there was any of that in this case, I would certainly take that seriously as well.
But, there’s not any real evidence…just desperate hail Mary’s in an attempt to scare people into voting for a populist strong man, who appeals to the worst base desires in all of us. I’ll admit, it has a good chance of working and I would not be surprised if Trump slithers back into the WH in 2024…but it’s just delaying the inevitable.
The problem for what’s left of the Republican Party is not voter fraud, it’s demographics…and these are not on your side. Those who run MAGA know this…but instead of trying to broaden the base, they’ve chosen to go scorched earth and burn it all down. A Trump Presidency, a partisan SCOTUS, and decades of gerrymandering will buy a little more time at the bonfire, but ‘your idea of America’ is already lost, you just refuse to see it. The minority cannot rule forever.
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Orange Elite [5246]
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Re: You make a great case for mail in ballots***
Nov 27, 2023, 12:01 PM
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You're not having this conversation cause the MAGAt claims of "stolen election" and widespread fraud has not been proven. The willingness to storm the capital and assassinate elected leaders based on this lie has been confirmed. Own it. 😆
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National Champion [7679]
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Re: You make a great case for mail in ballots***
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Nov 27, 2023, 12:16 PM
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Recounting a bunch of ballots over and over in an "audit" does nothing to validate or invalidate the legality of the ballots themselves.
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Clemson Sports Icon [52727]
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Orange Elite [5246]
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Re: Not so fast...
Nov 27, 2023, 1:07 PM
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You didn't read your own link, did you? LOL. It claims that "no concrete evidence or details about the audit are given"
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Tiger Titan [48657]
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Campus Hero [13336]
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LOL
Nov 27, 2023, 12:10 PM
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I mean, LOL.
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Tiger Titan [48657]
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Can you debunk any of that?
Nov 27, 2023, 12:12 PM
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No. You can't.
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Campus Hero [13336]
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Look at your sources.
Nov 27, 2023, 12:26 PM
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Funny.
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Tiger Titan [48657]
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Didn't you just link us to "Not The Bee's" Twitter account...
Nov 27, 2023, 12:33 PM
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As a valid source? Over something you supported in the past as well?
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Campus Hero [13336]
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Just giving
Nov 27, 2023, 12:58 PM
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you a dose of your own medicine.
Just critique the source without addressing the content. Isn't that how it works?
Or does it only work when you boys do it?
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Tiger Titan [48657]
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It only works when your source is a fringe on Twitter
Nov 27, 2023, 1:02 PM
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Not when it's an actual established and credible entity. Or it works when your sources--which you tend to post--are busted lying about the very topic you're arguing.
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Campus Hero [13336]
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Tiger Titan [48657]
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What do you think that proves?
Nov 27, 2023, 1:13 PM
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You've shown me a very, very small handful of cases dating back to 1982 that show violations of election law by a few individuals in both red and blue states.
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Campus Hero [13336]
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Nov 27, 2023, 1:44 PM
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criminal convictions.
What percentage of actual fraud gets prosecuted? 1%? 2?
But the real problem (besides who TF knows what is going on with the electronic machines) is that nobody knows how many mail in ballots are legit. Once the ballot is separated from the envelope, there is no way to know. So if it gets past the stage where whoever is processing the ballot initially says it's OK, there is auditing it beyond that point.
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Tiger Titan [48657]
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Oh no! Over 1,200 convictions since...
Nov 27, 2023, 2:05 PM
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...checks notes... 1982!!!!!1!!1!
That's... holy ####! That's 30 cases a year!
Our elections are rigged!
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Game Day Hero [4298]
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Paw Warrior [4981]
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Re: You make a great case for mail in ballots***
Nov 27, 2023, 12:21 PM
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I’m not sure people in urban areas can actually find the polls.
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Orange Elite [5246]
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Re: Fun with election integrity
Nov 27, 2023, 9:06 AM
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Were these Dominion machines? Asking for a friend.
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Re: Fun with election integrity
Nov 27, 2023, 12:26 PM
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Seek mental help.
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