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Need an NCAA softball rules guru on 8th inning
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May 12, 2023, 8:40 AM
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screwup by the UNC coach.
The go ahead fast UNC runner is on 1st, batter hits a long sacrifice fly and runner tags up and makes it to second with 1 out. Umpire gets involved and apparently there was a “substitution error” by the UNC coach and the batter is out and the runner had to return to 1st base. Next batter hits into a double play to end the inning and the threat.
So, in a nutshell, what exactly was the “substitution error” rule - and, who called it - umpire or Clemson coach?
Really was a potential game changer late in a close 1-1 game.
I looked at the NCAA 5-5 Substitutions rules and it’s about as clear as mud to me.
Thanks, and,
Go Tigers!
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I'm curious too.
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May 12, 2023, 8:50 AM
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That was a game changing decision for sure!
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Orange Phenom [14137]
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Even the announcers didn’t know exactly what was happening
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May 12, 2023, 9:03 AM
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Maybe Qualk will give a recap today on his show
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Re: Need an NCAA softball rules guru on 8th inning
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May 12, 2023, 9:04 AM
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Good question. Watching it live, I didn't get the feeling Clemson caught it (unless it was completely challenged from the dugout without Rittman coming up on the field). Also noticed there seemed to be no push back from the Heels coach (other than apparently comparing rosters or something like that with the ump), so it must've been cut and dried.
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Re: Need an NCAA softball rules guru on 8th inning
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May 12, 2023, 9:05 AM
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Me too ...... wondered why there was not a more lively discussion between the UNC coach and ump. She must have clearly knew she was wrong, but after 38 years of coaching she should have known better.
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Game Changer [2037]
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I missed the game...
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May 12, 2023, 9:10 AM
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did she just put the batter in the wrong order for who she substituted? Im guessing maybe they switched 2 players and she made a mistake?
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Game Changer [1722]
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Re: Need an NCAA softball rules guru on 8th inning
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May 12, 2023, 9:12 AM
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Either wrong order or simply didn't tell umpire
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I thought ...
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May 12, 2023, 9:17 AM
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they either didn't inform the umpire of the substitution, the substitution occurred before the ball was dead, or the player who entered the game to run had already been in the lineup/batting order.
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Orange Phenom [14137]
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At any rate that’s a huge mistake for a coach that’s been
May 12, 2023, 10:05 AM
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There 30+ years to make at the most critical time in an ACC tournament game. Just imagine if Hubert Davis made a mistake like that during the ACC basketball tournament. They’d run him out of town on a rail.
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May 12, 2023, 10:20 AM
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Yea there are a few things I do not understand about the game.
Trying to get into the Canes (hockey) and having to learn those rules on the fly.
Any soccer questions I am your guy!
Message was edited by: rhpltmeg®
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Legend [6780]
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May 12, 2023, 10:23 AM
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I honestly thought it looked like the UNC coach was helping the ump balance his checkbook they were talking for so long. He had a pretty wide device to spread the lineup card on.
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May 12, 2023, 10:30 AM
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I was getting confused with the pinch runner, pinch hitter, and then a Doberman pincher. It was weird for sure.
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Orange Blooded [2588]
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Re: Need an NCAA softball rules guru on 8th inning
May 12, 2023, 11:14 AM
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screwup by the UNC coach.
The go ahead fast UNC runner is on 1st, batter hits a long sacrifice fly and runner tags up and makes it to second with 1 out. Umpire gets involved and apparently there was a “substitution error” by the UNC coach and the batter is out and the runner had to return to 1st base. Next batter hits into a double play to end the inning and the threat.
So, in a nutshell, what exactly was the “substitution error” rule - and, who called it - umpire or Clemson coach?
Really was a potential game changer late in a close 1-1 game.
I looked at the NCAA 5-5 Substitutions rules and it’s about as clear as mud to me.
Thanks, and,
Go Tigers!
No run scored. Couldn't be a sac fly.
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Head Coach [971]
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I guess I meant a sacrifice in the sense to advance runner
May 12, 2023, 11:58 AM
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on first too scoring position on second.
HTH
GO TIGERS!
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Never Forget UNC Are Masters of Deep Cheat Theory
May 12, 2023, 11:20 AM
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They almost got away with this one
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