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My take on NIL and scholarships
Dec 16, 2022, 11:21 AM
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Just a random thought, but as far as I’m concerned if a player takes a large NIL contract, then the university should not even pay 1 cent in scholarship money to that player. Also give them a 1099 since they are on contract and let them pay taxes like the blue collar workers do. Tax all perks, room, board and medical. Maybe that would stop some of the bs that is getting out of hand.
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Re: My take on NIL and scholarships
Dec 16, 2022, 11:25 AM
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I’d love to see that but technically the NIL contracts are not with the school. We all know behind closed doors they are but the universities are going to have a hard time supplying/denying scholarships based on the money they “privately” obtain.
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Dec 16, 2022, 2:11 PM
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If the NLRB, via their suit in California, has their way,
Dec 16, 2022, 11:27 AM
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we'll soon see student-athletes unionized.
Amateur collegiate athletics will then go the way of dinosaurs.
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Re: If the NLRB, via their suit in California, has their way,
Dec 16, 2022, 11:30 AM
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Was just going to post this.
That split folks have been talking about for years may be coming soon.
Question is -- what side is Clemson going with?
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The ones that do that will immediately lose recruits and players...
Dec 16, 2022, 11:35 AM
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to the point of being noncompetitive.
Your argument would be completely counterproductive. If I'm a sought after recruit deciding between two schools and equal NIL money, I'm going to the one that doesn't take away my scholarship money.
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This is actually going to turn into a workaround for some
Dec 16, 2022, 11:42 AM
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programs to eclipse the 85 scholarship limit. If enough NIL funding can cover the tuition, room and board bill, then that frees up an actual scholarship position for others. A school could have 95 scholarship level players where 10 of those are actually 'walk-ons' paying their own way via NIL and the other 85 part of the cap.
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I hate the idea, but Congress may be the solution
Dec 16, 2022, 11:44 AM
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Article 1, Section 8, Clause 3 of the U.S. Constitution, which gives Congress the power “to regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes".
I'm not a lawyer, but after talking to some buddies of mine that are seem to think that Congress could weather lawsuits if they wanted to regulate these NIL deals in college sports. Like me, they don't like the idea if Gov't intervention, but since the genie is out of the bottle I'm not sure there is a better avenue because NIL is out of control and there doesn't seem to be a way to control it in the market place.
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Re: My take on NIL and scholarships
Dec 16, 2022, 12:01 PM
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Within 3-5 years college football at some schools will not exist as we know it today. Most likely 30-40 schools will become semi-pro or farm teams for the NFL. At some point schools are gonna have to decide if they want to continue supporting a farm team or get out of the rat race. While I like college football I am not going to give any money to support farm teams via NIL dollars. In addition, I do not want my tax dollars to support farm teams for the NFl. I don't care for Professional sports of any type but I know lots of folks do and will support the farm team/semi-pro team concept. That ok with me but I am not gonna pay money for college kids to play football other than the money for a scholarship to the school. Seeing as I am a very senior Iptay member after a few years my vote won't count because I won't be here to vote.
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You are spot on!!!
Dec 16, 2022, 12:07 PM
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While I was typing, you were preaching. Thank you for the insight.
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Re: My take on NIL and scholarships
Dec 16, 2022, 12:18 PM
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It's very possible it will head that way, but ultimately that setup would fail. College football is not like the NFL. People watch the NFL just because it's the NFL. You get large viewership even for lousy games like Jets vs. Lions.
College football is different. You have a bunch of regional interests cobbled together, with tangential interest. In other words, you need fans from Washington St., Texas Tech, Georgia Tech, Cincinnati, Purdue. etc. watching along with the blue blood fans to make up a large enough viewership base.
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Re: My take on NIL and scholarships
Dec 16, 2022, 12:06 PM
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The whole thing is a mess right now and until someone steps in, it will only get worse. At some point, schools and donors are going to give up on sports. Not saying Clemson or larger schools but the reality is, they won't be able to afford it. Tuition is at an all-time high and very few appreciate the opportunity to get tuition, food, housing, stipend money...AND AN EDUCATION! These athletes are spoiled and only think of themselves.
For example, my kids go to Clemson, the net cost to me is about $65,000 a year (out of state) with some of the above mentioned, they certainly don't get stipend $. Now, do they contribute to the revenue to Clemson like some athletes do? Absolutely not, their contribution will be after they graduate to give back to the school.
So an Athlete goes and gets all of the above mentioned in return, the football and basketball players contribute to the revenue. Everything else is a loss toward revenue. Think about that.
The next drum that's beating is the athletes want a share of the revenue, not profit mind you. Well, does that mean they want to get rid of funding the non-revenue sports? Are they going to be happy if the OPS building isn't there or they don't get their steak, crab legs, and fried chicken whenever they want it? Maybe they have to walk up the hill from the locker rooms to run down the hill because they want $$$ and we can't afford buses. Maybe we have to get rid of coaches because we now pay the spoiled athletes and can't afford $10 mil for a head coach.
Maybe the answer is don't let them have the luxuries, live like the rest of the students and live off Kraft mac and cheese for the first year. See how they like that.
Give them an inch and they will take a mile.
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Re: My take on NIL and scholarships
Dec 16, 2022, 12:42 PM
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Dang, I put this up and my tigerpulse went from 75 to 53%. I guess I keep it to all RA RA RA!
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Re: My take on NIL and scholarships
Dec 16, 2022, 12:10 PM
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wow what an incredibly unique take.
I definitely haven't seen those 2 cents so many times I have a couple dollars.
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