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CU Medallion [18217]
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Greg Sankey needs to get a job in professional sports and get out of college athletics.
Apr 28, 2022, 8:04 AM
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I haven’t seen much of an emphasis on education from his ivory tower, if any. If half of the things in this new Sports Illustrated article come to pass, the term “student athlete” will become a cheap antique moniker if not an outright lie.
https://apple.news/AGwqtzKANRxS-52Udtf7oFw
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No such thing as a “student athlete.”
Apr 28, 2022, 8:34 AM
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Never has been. Might as well just end the charade. The term has always been a lie, as you said.
If you don’t want to hear Bilas explain it in the video below, here’s an article. https://amp.wbur.org/onlyagame/2017/10/13/walter-byers-ncaa
Feeling like the entire amateur system would crumble if schools were forced to pay workers' comp claims for athletes, NCAA executive director Walter Byers met with his legal team and came up with a strategy to make sure no one would mistake a college athlete for an employee entitled to benefits.
Schools were told to refer to players as "student-athletes." They were to speak of "college teams," not "clubs," which was a term used by the pros. They included an amateurism pledge with every scholarship offer.
https://youtu.be/qQuoDncRuL8
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Meant to add this:
Apr 28, 2022, 8:39 AM
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The point is that the term “student athlete” is not some cherished noble term to describe a college student who also played sports. It was simply a legal maneuver. That’s it.
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CU Guru [1237]
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Re: No such thing as a “student athlete.”
Apr 28, 2022, 9:29 AM
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This, from the guy who built the NCAA into what it was. If you didn’t read the article, it’s what Byer’s realized what the NCAA had become, when he was 70 and retired.
"Each generation of young persons come along and all they ask is, 'Coach, give me a chance, I can do it.' And it's a disservice to these young people that the management of intercollegiate athletics stays in place committed to an outmoded code of amateurism. "And I attribute that to, quite frankly, to the neo-plantation mentality that exists on the campuses of our country and in the conference offices and in the NCAA. The coach owns the athlete's feet, the college owns the athlete's body and the athlete's mind is supposed to comprehend a rulebook that I challenge Dave Berst, who's sitting down in this audience, to explain in rational terms to you inside of eight hours."
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Well how about this -- let's make it more that way? Or, we
Apr 28, 2022, 10:33 AM
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start calling it semi-pro ball and do away with "college" football.
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Agree - make the clear distinction and let the market sort out which model survives.
Apr 28, 2022, 1:30 PM
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All farm/minor league attempts with respect to football have fallen flat on their faces. As a whole, consumers of athletics don’t have space in their consumerism for that tier of competition.
An emphatic statement like “scholarship athletes have the opportunity to defray the costs of higher education by committing to university athletics” should be on a banner in every locker room, in my opinion. The broad objective should be legitimate higher education.
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Re: Greg Sankey needs to get a job in professional sports and get out of college athletics.
Apr 28, 2022, 9:17 AM
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if everyone has to play be the same rules, why do we care?
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2 reasons:
Apr 28, 2022, 9:24 AM
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- The power of certain conferences will never allow parity when it comes to the “rules.” The SEC (in football, at least) can flex their TV money or whatever and move the goalpost almost at will. It’s a miracle the Playoff hasn’t been expanded yet, but it’s probably just a matter of time now that SEC has expanded as well. - A college education should be held in honor and properly valued as a means to a better future. The statistical likelihood that Joe Average college football player will secure his entire financial future via the athletic pursuits of his youth is very small, but the likelihood that he will cultivate the skills and credentials necessary to enter into and succeed in a career via his education is very high. The NCAA is catering to the fractional contingent that will make professional money, not the masses who will benefit from a quality education.
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Re: 2 reasons:
Apr 28, 2022, 9:40 AM
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I think that Billis will soon become involved in the NCAA at a high level.
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Re: Greg Sankey needs to get a job in professional sports and get out of college athletics.
Apr 28, 2022, 11:25 AM
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Sounds like professional sports to me.
Sounds like the SEC and B1G have smashed the NCAA into submission and they are now laying out their plan to subjugate the peasants.
Sounds like the Athletic Departments in the SEC and B1G run their schools, own every building on campus, command every employee on campus and don’t need to check with anyone on anything before dictating the next direction.
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But college athletics IS professional sports
Apr 29, 2022, 2:46 AM
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with a small educational aspect.
This is especially true for SEC football.
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